supermiddleweight tounament, how would joe fare
im just waitin for people to start gettin on my back for talkin about calzaghe still, so neg rep me its ok i understand.anyway what im gettin at is this 168 tournament going down soon, weve got froch,kessler, direll, green and so on, what im sayin is how do u think think calzaghe would fare in this this tournament if he was still kickin about today, i no hes already beat the favourite in kessler, but what about the other fighters, dirrerent styles different outcomes ah fellas, i just watched calzaghe again the other week against lacy, kessler, hopkins,jones, and i think he would clean this tournament out, whats ur thoughts guys
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im just waitin for people to start gettin on my back for talkin about calzaghe still, so neg rep me its ok i understand.anyway what im gettin at is this 168 tournament going down soon, weve got froch,kessler, direll, green and so on, what im sayin is how do u think think calzaghe would fare in this this tournament if he was still kickin about today, i no hes already beat the favourite in kessler, but what about the other fighters, dirrerent styles different outcomes ah fellas, i just watched calzaghe again the other week against lacy, kessler, hopkins,jones, and i think he would clean this tournament out, whats ur thoughts guys
He'd beat them all rather comfortably IMO, i think Lucian Bute maybe the best Super Middleweight. But he wouldn't stand the pressure of Joe Calzaghe, but he would give him some troubles early on, because he is a very good outside fighter.
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Well I know styles make fights; but in this case I say Joe wins the whole thing. Kessler may be the best in the whole tourny; and we saw what happened with him and Joe.
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im just waitin for people to start gettin on my back for talkin about calzaghe still, so neg rep me its ok i understand.anyway what im gettin at is this 168 tournament going down soon, weve got froch,kessler, direll, green and so on, what im sayin is how do u think think calzaghe would fare in this this tournament if he was still kickin about today, i no hes already beat the favourite in kessler, but what about the other fighters, dirrerent styles different outcomes ah fellas, i just watched calzaghe again the other week against lacy, kessler, hopkins,jones, and i think he would clean this tournament out, whats ur thoughts guys
He'd beat them all rather comfortably IMO, i think Lucian Bute maybe the best Super Middleweight. But he wouldn't stand the pressure of Joe Calzaghe, but he would give him some troubles early on, because he is a very good outside fighter.
i agree mate, i think he would clean up, bute is a solid fighter, yeah he might give joe the most trouble, but it would not really be that much trouble in my opinion, froch being the second favourite after kessler, i think joe would beat froch the worst out of anybody in the tournament, ha, ha, can u imagine tho what would take place if froch got in the ring with calzaghe, it would be a lacy times 10
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im just waitin for people to start gettin on my back for talkin about calzaghe still, so neg rep me its ok i understand.anyway what im gettin at is this 168 tournament going down soon, weve got froch,kessler, direll, green and so on, what im sayin is how do u think think calzaghe would fare in this this tournament if he was still kickin about today, i no hes already beat the favourite in kessler, but what about the other fighters, dirrerent styles different outcomes ah fellas, i just watched calzaghe again the other week against lacy, kessler, hopkins,jones, and i think he would clean this tournament out, whats ur thoughts guys
He'd beat them all rather comfortably IMO, i think Lucian Bute maybe the best Super Middleweight. But he wouldn't stand the pressure of Joe Calzaghe, but he would give him some troubles early on, because he is a very good outside fighter.
i agree mate, i think he would clean up, bute is a solid fighter, yeah he might give joe the most trouble, but it would not really be that much trouble in my opinion, froch being the second favourite after kessler, i think joe would beat froch the worst out of anybody in the tournament, ha, ha, can u imagine tho what would take place if froch got in the ring with calzaghe, it would be a lacy times 10
Agreed; Froch would be made to look utterly Special Olympics material against Joe.
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He'd beat them all rather comfortably IMO, i think Lucian Bute maybe the best Super Middleweight. But he wouldn't stand the pressure of Joe Calzaghe, but he would give him some troubles early on, because he is a very good outside fighter.
i agree mate, i think he would clean up, bute is a solid fighter, yeah he might give joe the most trouble, but it would not really be that much trouble in my opinion, froch being the second favourite after kessler, i think joe would beat froch the worst out of anybody in the tournament, ha, ha, can u imagine tho what would take place if froch got in the ring with calzaghe, it would be a lacy times 10
Agreed; Froch would be made to look utterly Special Olympics material against Joe.
LOL that's true.
I would say Joe too by the way.
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He'd beat them all rather comfortably IMO, i think Lucian Bute maybe the best Super Middleweight. But he wouldn't stand the pressure of Joe Calzaghe, but he would give him some troubles early on, because he is a very good outside fighter.
i agree mate, i think he would clean up, bute is a solid fighter, yeah he might give joe the most trouble, but it would not really be that much trouble in my opinion, froch being the second favourite after kessler, i think joe would beat froch the worst out of anybody in the tournament, ha, ha, can u imagine tho what would take place if froch got in the ring with calzaghe, it would be a lacy times 10
Agreed; Froch would be made to look utterly Special Olympics material against Joe.
special olympics,:rotflmao:. oh my god im pissin myself right now, it would be like that tho, calzaghe is a special fighter, is the best 168er of all time, without doubt
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Meh, to win that thing one guy's gotta fight five times, that's gonna be over two years from now if everything comes off, Joe's old already and coming off a layoff, I'd put money on somebody else.
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Meh, to win that thing one guy's gotta fight five times, that's gonna be over two years from now if everything comes off, Joe's old already and coming off a layoff, I'd put money on somebody else.
understood ouma fan, but if calzaghe was still active who would u pick, and if calzaghe was not around like he isnt today who is ur pick of the bunch today, its got to be kessler right
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Meh, to win that thing one guy's gotta fight five times, that's gonna be over two years from now if everything comes off, Joe's old already and coming off a layoff, I'd put money on somebody else.
True. But a couple of those guys he could tune up on like Taylor or Dirrell; Taylor would gas out anyways and I can't see him even really touching Joe. And I'm by no means a huge fan of Joe. Kessle though could give him more problems thean he did before; but hell he's basically been on layoff as well and his last opponents were who? Anyways it's moot anyways.
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He's the best prime for prime, if this started a few years ago, sure no doubt. And he could still win it but I kind of think his body would fall apart a bit, reflexes slow that kind of thing.
I guess I'm favoring Kessler now but who knows, dude never fights.
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Well I know styles make fights; but in this case I say Joe wins the whole thing. Kessler may be the best in the whole tourny; and we saw what happened with him and Joe.
F**K LEGION!!! You got me twice in one day! I had Kess winning the tourney, then I was going to connect it his and Joe's fight.
...btw, I think Joe wins it fairly easily. I find it a little funny how now he's retired and I'm starting to appreciate him more. I always thought he was overrated, but in retrospect, he was a great fighter.
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An anywhere close to prime Calzaghe schools everyone involved in the tournament. He'd probably stop Taylor and if he fought Froch it would look similar to (if not worse than) the Lacy fight. Hell, he'd probably school everyone if he entered the tournament today.
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An anywhere close to prime Calzaghe schools everyone involved in the tournament. He'd probably stop Taylor and if he fought Froch it would look similar to (if not worse than) the Lacy fight. Hell, he'd probably school everyone if he entered the tournament today.
After the Lacy fight I thought Taylor would have a shot at beating Joe. With his jab, I think he could've caught Joe coming in and held him at bay, also getting aggressive every now and then throwing the right hand behind it. But after seeing him against Froch and his stamina issues and not being able to close a fight he has in the bag, Joe would've eaten him alive. In Joe's prime, it would be a massacre...
I still think he has a shot at this tournament. But my thinking process around this is based on a whole lot of "IF'S." Taylor has the ability to outbox anyone and he has one of the best jabs in boxing but again this is all based on if he can stay on his feet til the final bell.
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An anywhere close to prime Calzaghe schools everyone involved in the tournament. He'd probably stop Taylor and if he fought Froch it would look similar to (if not worse than) the Lacy fight. Hell, he'd probably school everyone if he entered the tournament today.
After the Lacy fight I thought Taylor would have a shot at beating Joe. With his jab, I think he could've caught Joe coming in and held him at bay, also getting aggressive every now and then throwing the right hand behind it. But after seeing him against Froch and his stamina issues and not being able to close a fight he has in the bag, Joe would've eaten him alive. In Joe's prime, it would be a massacre...
If Taylor could fight the same way he does in the first couple rounds throughout the fight, I'd give him a chance (albeit a slim one) chance of upsetting Calzaghe. However, if Taylor was able to do that he'd be a top 10 P4P fighter as well.
