Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
We all have our opinions on this one... So lets have 'em.
I feel that Ward will simply be too much for Green. As I've said prior, Green relies too heavily on his punching power at times rather than boxing and letting the game plan do it's job. We saw it in his last outing.
Green is a decent fighter but not on the level with the likes of Dirrell, Ward, Abraham and Froch(I say that cringing). Green can box a bit and has power in both hands but is not really outstanding in any area.
Ward has great lateral movement, sneaky power, great accuracy and good ring generalship. On paper it looks like a white wash... But this is boxing and it's not that simple. It never is.
So how do you all see it?
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If i had to bet something like my house i'd pick ward. But for this thread i'll go out on a limb and say green beats him. What was said above was exactly right. Green relies on his power then when he can't blast a guy out of there he seems to get confused almost like he's shocked anyone could take his punches. He showed that against simms. But he's an ok boxer when he not checkin out his feet every two seconds. I think he can get around wards hit, grab and headbutt type of style.
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Ward will outbox Green but thatr is not to say Green may njot be able to make it his type of fight...Ward would be silly to try and Test Greens power...Ward is a smart fighter....He will use the ring and box....Green though is a tough guy and assuming he can avoid his moments of lapse in the ring should be a good bout
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I think Ward boxes his way to a UD. I really wish i was able to go, anyone here going?
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Ward late stoppage after piling up a huge lead on the cards.
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killersheep
Ward late stoppage after piling up a huge lead on the cards.
I have to agree completely. It's just one of those cases where you have to catch a guy to hurt him. Basicly people are trying to say that Green can do what Kessler couldn't... Granted they're two different style fighters but it's just one of those things I don't have trouble weighing.
People forget that the last noteable KO was Jaidon Codrington... If you call Bonsante and Ravelo noteable then you can add them too:rolleyes: ...then he took out some trash and got taken for a ride by Tarvis Simms.
C'mon, people.
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Mar
If i had to bet something like my house i'd pick ward. But for this thread i'll go out on a limb and say green beats him. What was said above was exactly right. Green relies on his power then when he can't blast a guy out of there he seems to get confused almost like he's shocked anyone could take his punches. He showed that against simms. But he's an ok boxer when he not checkin out his feet every two seconds. I think he can get around wards hit, grab and headbutt type of style.
good call mar. if i was betting my house, i'd pick Ward because it's a safer bet, but i can see Green hurting Ward if he catches him and winning some rounds by landing the bigger punches.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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killersheep
Ward late stoppage after piling up a huge lead on the cards.
I have to agree completely. It's just one of those cases where you have to catch a guy to hurt him. Basicly people are trying to say that Green can do what Kessler couldn't... Granted they're two different style fighters but it's just one of those things I don't have trouble weighing.
People forget that the last noteable KO was Jaidon Codrington... If you call Bonsante and Ravelo noteable then you can add them too:rolleyes: ...then he took out some trash and got taken for a ride by Tarvis Simms.
C'mon, people.
Yea Boston, but when was Ward's last noticable KO? Never really. Bute knocked out Miranda in 4 rounds! Pavlik did it in 6. Ward couldn't even really hurt Miranda - did he ever even put him down? The thing is I can see this fight going a little like the Miranda fight. Another ugly, not very exciting, win by Ward. Not to mention, it's in Oakland, Ward's hometown.
One boxing writer describe Ward's style as "Greasy." Makes a bit of sense.
Sorry Sheep, you really see Ward knocking out Green? I can see Ward pulling out an ugly victory with his punch, hold, head butt or punch routine, but I just don't see him having the power to knock out Green. I would say Ward is the lightest puncher in the Super Six. Winning 12-0 on the cards is possible. I don't see it, but if that was your call, I hear ya.
Don't forget, Green is bigger than Ward. I'm making the risky call agreeing with mar, and picking Green to knock out Ward in a big upset. I'll admit Green will have to fight the best fight of his life to win this one.
One more thing: Ward is the -600 favorite. Almost every boxing expert has picked him to win.
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Mar
If i had to bet something like my house i'd pick ward. But for this thread i'll go out on a limb and say green beats him. What was said above was exactly right. Green relies on his power then when he can't blast a guy out of there he seems to get confused almost like he's shocked anyone could take his punches. He showed that against simms. But he's an ok boxer when he not checkin out his feet every two seconds. I think he can get around wards hit, grab and headbutt type of style.
good call
mar. if i was betting my house, i'd pick Ward because it's a safer bet, but i can see Green hurting Ward if he catches him and winning some rounds by landing the bigger punches.
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killersheep
Ward late stoppage after piling up a huge lead on the cards.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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killersheep
Ward late stoppage after piling up a huge lead on the cards.
I have to agree completely. It's just one of those cases where you have to catch a guy to hurt him. Basicly people are trying to say that Green can do what Kessler couldn't... Granted they're two different style fighters but it's just one of those things I don't have trouble weighing.
People forget that the last noteable KO was Jaidon Codrington... If you call Bonsante and Ravelo noteable then you can add them too:rolleyes: ...then he took out some trash and got taken for a ride by Tarvis Simms.
C'mon, people.
Yea
Boston, but when was Ward's last noticable KO? Never really. Bute knocked out Miranda in 4 rounds! Pavlik did it in 6. Ward couldn't even really hurt Miranda - did he ever even put him down? The thing is I can see this fight going a little like the Miranda fight. Another ugly, not very exciting, win by Ward. Not to mention, it's in Oakland, Ward's hometown.
One boxing writer describe Ward's style as "Greasy." Makes a bit of sense.
Sorry
Sheep, you really see Ward knocking out Green? I can see Ward pulling out an ugly victory with his punch, hold, head butt or punch routine, but I just don't see him having the power to knock out Green. I would say Ward is the lightest puncher in the Super Six. Winning 12-0 on the cards is possible. I don't see it, but if that was your call, I hear ya.
Don't forget, Green is bigger than Ward. I'm making the risky call agreeing with
mar, and picking Green to knock out Ward in a big upset. I'll admit Green will have to fight the best fight of his life to win this one.
One more thing: Ward is the -600 favorite. Almost every boxing expert has picked him to win.
Yeah, Rantcatrat, I hear you and agree Ward is probably the lightest puncher in the S6. You'll never hear me preaching about Wards outstanding punching power but the fact that people are really only picking Green due to his punching power is a little weak IMO. All I'm saying is, does Green have a puncher's chance? Sure... But that's all. If he boxes with Ward he's gonna get schooled bad. He'll probbly look at his feet more times than land solid punches. ...and picking him totally on his power alone is a bit strange to me due to the quality of men he's KOd... If he was KOing top flight op. people would have an argument... But taking out the trash and then preaching about power is rather obtuse. That's my point.
Ward by one sided beating or late stoppage.
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I voted Ward UD...
Seriously though Ward KO shouldn't be an option he ain't knocking anyone out in this tourney.
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Andre Ward will school Green in big time fight. Andre Ward all the way!
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CutMeMick
I voted Ward UD...
Seriously though Ward KO shouldn't be an option he ain't knocking anyone out in this tourney.
If it were to happen to anyone in the tourny, it'd be Green
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CutMeMick
I voted Ward UD...
Seriously though Ward KO shouldn't be an option he ain't knocking anyone out in this tourney.
If it were to happen to anyone in the tourny, it'd be Green
Anyone??? What about Jermain Taylor? :)
But seriously, I disagree. Green can definitely take a punch. Froch has been wobbled all over the ring by Dirrell, who is not a big puncher. I think Ward could TKO him. He'd only have to land a number of unanswered punches. But 1 punch KO?? I don't think so. If he did I think we'd have someone who could RULE this division for a few years.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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CutMeMick
I voted Ward UD...
Seriously though Ward KO shouldn't be an option he ain't knocking anyone out in this tourney.
If it were to happen to anyone in the tourny, it'd be Green
Anyone??? What about Jermain Taylor? :)
But seriously, I disagree. Green can definitely take a punch. Froch has been wobbled all over the ring by Dirrell, who is
not a big puncher. I think Ward could TKO him. He'd only have to land a number of unanswered punches. But 1 punch KO?? I don't think so. If he did I think we'd have someone who could RULE this division for a few years.
I meant NOW, man. I just rewatched Kessler/Ward. Green's gonna get beat up.
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