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i was watching ringside tonight & there was an interview with vitali & they showed highlights of the lewis vitali fight, now i always remembered that uppercut lewis hit vitali with & still cant believe vitali didnt go down from it, now if vitali can take that punch i just cant see haye hurting him.
opionions?
I don't think people are saying haye would knock vitali out, at least I hope not, because that's a little out in left field.. I think they're saying vitali is slowing down, he's close to 40, has been injury prone, however the chin is still there. Perhaps they think haye could win a decision over 12 by being quicker and fresh, but I don't even see that happening.
theres no reason haye couldnt knock him out
he rocked valuev who has the hardest head in boxing history by miles
haye could have bigger 1 punch power than lewis
im not saying he will im just saying he could
There is no reason he couldn't KO Vitali, I mean anything could happen, most just doubt it would happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
That statement about Valuev is pure opinion
I HIGHLY doubt he has better 1 punch KO power than Lennox Lewis
im not reading it kabong
its probly a whole load of haye hating jibber jabber anyway
I think the biggest reason is the concept of in order of being able to beat someone, you would have to step in the ring with them...
Vitali may have slowed but his chin is sterdy however I am sure he can get cut and certainly injured which is Hayes only hope.
I thought exactly that when watching ringside. What an upercut! But he got stronger from there.............
WTF? Says who you? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Prime Vitali woul demolish Haye, Herbie Hide style. Now he still does a job on him.
Haye has a better chance at Vitali than Wlad IMO. Vitali's old and fragile.
Are they fighting?
I don't think Haye would go out to KO Vitali. I think he would be cagey and try and pick him off using his speed advantage. As far as NOT being able to?? Haye has the power to KO anyone in the world I guarantee that but Vitali has one hell of a chin, though I do doubt that it's still as good as it was when he fought Lennox.
I think Haye WOULD beat Vitali at this stage BUT prime Vitali would have been a different matter. Vitali has visibly declined a lot over the last 18 months and that was clear when he fought Sosnowski. The man who made the comeback vs Peter would have destroyed Albert way quicker than that and looked much better doing it.
I think Haye knows Vitali is in decline and if he decides to be a man after he destroys the Fraudster and actually fight a Klit, he will go for him before Wlad.
Well he's yet to fight a heavyweight that's younger than 36 so that last part may very well be true. IMO it's still a big ask for the guy because Vitali doesn't have to rely on punching power the KO's he has acheived are great and all but he can still score on any fighter out there. I know Vitali has slowed, but I think the Sosnowski fight is a bit deceptive. No he's not the guy that "harpooned" Kirk Johnson or that demolished Danny Williams, but he can still hurt any heavyweight in the world. I think his power has suffered because he doesn't sit down on all his punches like he used to, he's going to land some pretty hard but he's not going to shoot right hands like the one he caught Lennox Lewis with in the 2nd round of their fight....that was a humdinger (I think even Lennox would agree to that)Quote:
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:) yep says meQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983WTF? Says who you? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Prime Vitali woul demolish Haye, Herbie Hide style. Now he still does a job on him.
Vital would be favourite but with the hate that is around haye i cant really believe anyones opinion isnt influenced
i admit haye is a cock, he has a chance tho, vitali is old and haye is fast and very powerful
Haye has a glass chin mate that's where I come to my conclusion. ;) All the way back to his am days whered he was put on his pants many a time, Vitali might be old still to powereful for Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44:) yep says meQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983WTF? Says who you? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Prime Vitali woul demolish Haye, Herbie Hide style. Now he still does a job on him.
Vital would be favourite but with the hate that is around haye i cant really believe anyones opinion isnt influenced
i admit haye is a cock, he has a chance tho, vitali is old and haye is fast and very powerful
I was also on about Valuev having the hardest head in the history of boxing? Well who the fuck has he fought? Valuev would be ktfo by all the top boys in the history of the heavyweight divsion.
have you seen his head? it may or may not be the hardest but it looks like it should beQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Haye has a glass chin mate that's where cometo my conclusion. ;) All the way bac to his am days whered he was put on his pants many a time, Vitali might be old still to powereful for Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44:) yep says meQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983WTF? Says who you? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Prime Vitali woul demolish Haye, Herbie Hide style. Now he still does a job on him.
Vital would be favourite but with the hate that is around haye i cant really believe anyones opinion isnt influenced
i admit haye is a cock, he has a chance tho, vitali is old and haye is fast and very powerful
I was also on about Valuev having the hardest head in the history of boxing? Well who the fuck has he fought? Valuev would be ktfo by all the top boys in the history of the heavyweight divsion.
im not sure haye does have a glass jaw,
The only times (off the top of my head) he has really been hurt is against thompson and mormeck and i reckon the thompson KD was more that he was completely knackered and a bit weight drained against mormeck
its not excuses for him coz, despite being english, he int my favourite boxer i just dont think the evidence is conclusive of that