What was Marciano's best performance?
This is actually a question not for us Rocky fans, whoever we are, but actually for the Marciano-detractors who make a few good arguments which I will admit does add some questions into the Marciano which cause some curiosity or even doubt some times.
Even the Marciano detractors must find a performance which they would consider to be Marcinao's finest effort. Just wondering what that would be in the eyes of others.
I personally feel he really worked his ass off more than ever against Walcott in their first fight, I used to be and still am awed at the punishment Frazier took against Ali and kept comin', but clearly Walcott was a harder more jolting puncher than Ali, and he really jolted the lights out of Rocky for 12 round there. What an effort by Marciano of will and determination to win. Some body shots in the 6th and 10th rounds that Jersey Joe landed would have made most modern fighters quit. Seriously, watch the tape.
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You could argue that Marciano had already peaked out by the time he fought Jersey Joe, I would put his life and death struggle with Carmine Vingo or his battering of highly rated contender Rex Layne up there as two better performances by him to be honest. Everyone has heard of the title fight against Walcott, but that doesnt mean it was his best performance (ie Ali versus Foreman or Ali versus Cleveland Williams!!)
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Beating Jersey Joe the second time.
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How ould you rate Rocky's performance against Ezzard Charles?
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How ould you rate Rocky's performance against Ezzard Charles?
Considering the blood, AMAZING. Losing that amount of blood as surely got to have been weakening him and if it was to happen today the fight would have been stopped. Charles must have had razor blades in his gloves to cut Rocky like that.
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heard from head of Giordano's Bakery (est. 1898 Nutley, NJ) that Rocky's brother told him personally half a pint of blood was lost just from the nose injury between rds. 6 and 8. Youre right, no way that fight continues nowadays.
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Retiring at the right time. Because I'm pretty sure Sonny Liston would have whipped him.
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from 1953 (Liston's 1st fight) til Marciano retired, Sonny Liston fought opponents with a combined record of 131-77-23. I wouldnt call that great enough competition to be able to deal with the Rock. Then from 1956 til the end of 1958 (Marciano would never have fought beyond Fall 1956/Spring 1957) Sonny Liston's opponents' records were 153-89-12. He didnt fight anybody decent until April 1959 in Cleveland Williams. So if he had fought Marciano say in Spring 1956, he would have had a very poor chance of winning. He wasn't ready to face the Rock, nor was Floyd Patterson.
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For my likings the 1st LaStarza fight was amazing.
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yeah some people swear Roland won it.
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yeah some people swear Roland won it.
It was pretty damn close...
I felt Rocky closed off the fight slightly better than LaStarza.
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from 1953 (Liston's 1st fight) til Marciano retired, Sonny Liston fought opponents with a combined record of 131-77-23. I wouldnt call that great enough competition to be able to deal with the Rock. Then from 1956 til the end of 1958 (Marciano would never have fought beyond Fall 1956/Spring 1957) Sonny Liston's opponents' records were 153-89-12. He didnt fight anybody decent until April 1959 in Cleveland Williams. So if he had fought Marciano say in Spring 1956, he would have had a very poor chance of winning. He wasn't ready to face the Rock, nor was Floyd Patterson.
Liston VS Marciano could have been great BUT, I think too many read too much into Liston from his domination of Patterson. Patterson was tailor made for Liston and I think he would have been the same for Rocky too. I think Rockys ability to take a shot would have broken Listons heart and I think his power would have hurt Liston too.
I remember seeing an old clip of Liston on Rockys old TV program and it looked like they were on the verge of scrapping on the set. Rock certainly didn't look in the slightest bit worried about Liston like many of his opponents seemed to be.
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would have loved to see that man. I say if Ali could smoke Liston with that backward-moving anchor punch, then Marciano would KILL him with even a glancing Suzie-Q!!