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A Proper Man.
I thought maybe it would be something cool, you should change the thread title.
Guess it aint cool for you to see a sensible human being standing up to coward, mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses. You should change your perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Not to be a dick, but if you see cops as 'mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses' shouldn't you view members of the military in the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustGuess it aint cool for you to see a sensible human being standing up to coward, mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses. You should change your perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Yes but this particular member of the military knows what the constitution says, whereas you are correct that the vast majority of military members are indeed blindly following the Pentagon's War Plans. When did I say I supported the miltary? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHNot to be a dick, but if you see cops as 'mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses' shouldn't you view members of the military in the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustGuess it aint cool for you to see a sensible human being standing up to coward, mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses. You should change your perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That was not my assertion. 99.9% of people in the military don't have any say over what orders they are given and there are a billion different reasons why people enlist, so I don't really think it's possible to generalize there.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustYes but this particular member of the military knows what the constitution says, whereas you are correct that the vast majority of military members are indeed blindly following the Pentagon's War Plans. When did I say I supported the miltary? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHNot to be a dick, but if you see cops as 'mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses' shouldn't you view members of the military in the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustGuess it aint cool for you to see a sensible human being standing up to coward, mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses. You should change your perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I was merely pointing out that your statement appeared, to me, to be contradictory. And whether or not that man knows the constitution, he still belongs to the same apparatus that you are criticizing.
It seems he has become acutely aware however of the hypocrisy of clamping down on US citizens using the Protect & Serve people who should be engaged in other more honorable tasks. There area a growing number of vets who feel the same if you have been following the trend. So much so that returning vets are now being eyed rather closely as potential lone-wolf terrorists.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThat was not my assertion. 99.9% of people in the military don't have any say over what orders they are given and there are a billion different reasons why people enlist, so I don't really think it's possible to generalize there.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustYes but this particular member of the military knows what the constitution says, whereas you are correct that the vast majority of military members are indeed blindly following the Pentagon's War Plans. When did I say I supported the miltary? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHNot to be a dick, but if you see cops as 'mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses' shouldn't you view members of the military in the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustGuess it aint cool for you to see a sensible human being standing up to coward, mind-controlled enforcement agents of the crime bosses. You should change your perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I was merely pointing out that your statement appeared, to me, to be contradictory. And whether or not that man knows the constitution, he still belongs to the same apparatus that you are criticizing.
Uniform is not a stage prop to grand stand for the camera fella. Hard to imagine some grand discovery of 'no honor' once time is served that wasn't already suggested to going in prior...4 tours? Chances are and I'm willing to bet half the cops he's breaking off on have, are or will serve in a uniform of same stripe.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
Stage prop or not, youre missing the point. Just listen to his words. There is no honor in police dressing as if they are getting ready for the Battle of the Bulge, batoning people who have the right constitutionally to assemble peacfeully and freely. Why do people always get lost in the minutia and the pedantry of trying to discredit someone like that marine who is making valid points? It seems to be the trend the past 10 years or so. Someone says clearly "A", and rather than discussing "A" the listener says "Yeah but look at who said 'A', therefore it cannot be valid." This is called faulty syllogistic reasoning and I beliebe you are guilty of it. Everyone on earth has some degree of hypocrisy. Therefore noone has the credibility to speak about an issue? Wrong way to think IMO.
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Looking at the Cops Faces, they know He s talking sense, they look embarrassed .
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Originally Posted by Scrap
exactly but some posters here thought it was cute and witty to talk about how he shouldnt use his military uniform to grandstand: typical missing the point type of people there for sure. And arent there just too many of them these days? :cool:
Brockton , its Frightening ;D
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Originally Posted by Scrap
yes man, say it like it IS, rather than what people do these days, like what Dawson said at the Pascal presser : "Sit down with our tight pants". Or a poster a few posts up on this thread: "We cannot hear a word the marine is saying, because he is grandstanding with a uniform on." Yeah, now we know why those types couldnt make it through a rigorous academic environment. I'll tell ya, since graduating from university in 1990, and being out among the everyday people I'll call them, you really get to see how unsophisticated and unsound the majority of their statements and/or rebuttals are.
It IS FRIGHTENING, Scrap ;D