James Kirkland vs. Miguel Cotto who wins ?

This would be a very interesting matchup, granted Kirkland gets past Molina first of course.

Would Cotto weather the storm and then use his superior boxing skills to dominate Kirkland ?

Or would James Kirkland overwhelm Cotto with youth, rage and aggression ?

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Originally Posted by Hulk

This would be a very interesting matchup, granted Kirkland gets past Molina first of course.

Would Cotto weather the storm and then use his superior boxing skills to dominate Kirkland ?

Or would James Kirkland overwhelm Cotto with youth, rage and aggression ?

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IMO it's a bit of a 50/50 fight, Kirkland is a hot and cold type fighter, he looked awesome against Angulo but well Angulo is tailor made for him, a come forward fighter who doesn't have a wide variety of punches, and we saw that Kirkland's chin is still vulnerable but nowhere near as bad as it looked against Ishida, Angulo blew his load (similar to Mike Jones in his first fight with Karass) and well didn't have a plan B, Kirkland has the strength and physicality to win against Cotto, but will he be able to deal with his movement, his jab, counterpunching, will he be able to cut off the ring effectively against a guy who's a lot smarter in the ring than Angulo, but on the flipside can Cotto deal with Kirkland's power, his work rate, etc., should be a good fight

The Molina fight should kind of show us how Kirkland will deal with someone like Cotto. I think Kirkland is too much of a beast of the current Cotto tbh..

Kirkland can apply the simliar pressure that Margarito did, except he's still fresh with two healthy eyes, plus he hits harder, punch for punch..

Cotto would box well in spots but eventually fold under the pressure.

Kirkland TKO8 Cotto

I think Cotto would wins if he keeps the fight at a boxing pace. In a lot of ways Kirkland fights like Margarito, a lot of pressure, unbelievable cardio and outstanding heart but Cotto wins this fight from sheer ring generalship(like he did against Antonio) keeping off the ropes and keeping it a boxing match. Cotto certainly comes out the victor i think but you never know, Cotto, in his mid 30's is getting slightly weathered and the furious regime of Anne Wolf may be Kirkland's saving grace but still you never know look at Khan/ Peterson

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Originally Posted by ReBeL BLacK

I think Cotto would wins if he keeps the fight at a boxing pace. In a lot of ways Kirkland fights like Margarito, a lot of pressure, unbelievable cardio and outstanding heart but Cotto wins this fight from sheer ring generalship(like he did against Antonio) keeping off the ropes and keeping it a boxing match. Cotto certainly comes out the victor i think but you never know, Cotto, in his mid 30's is getting slightly weathered and the furious regime of Anne Wolf may be Kirkland's saving grace but still you never know look at Khan/ Peterson

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I get what you mean but Cotto is 31 lol

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Originally Posted by ReBeL BLacK

I think Cotto would wins if he keeps the fight at a boxing pace. In a lot of ways Kirkland fights like Margarito, a lot of pressure, unbelievable cardio and outstanding heart but Cotto wins this fight from sheer ring generalship(like he did against Antonio) keeping off the ropes and keeping it a boxing match. Cotto certainly comes out the victor i think but you never know, Cotto, in his mid 30's is getting slightly weathered and the furious regime of Anne Wolf may be Kirkland's saving grace but still you never know look at Khan/ Peterson

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Gotta agree. Cotto has some wear and tear. But I think he has the arsenal off jab and has been in enough fire fights to deal mentally and physically with a face first Kirkland.

Kirkland is still Kirkland and still gets and will get caught when he rushes in by straight punches and hard jabs. He is working on slipping but his aggresion and being so tense comes back to bite him. You could time Angulos punches with a sun dial and he knows very little about boxing off the back foot really. I think Cotto weathers the initial storm and times the hell out of Kirkland for a tko.

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Originally Posted by ReBeL BLacK

I think Cotto would wins if he keeps the fight at a boxing pace. In a lot of ways Kirkland fights like Margarito, a lot of pressure, unbelievable cardio and outstanding heart but Cotto wins this fight from sheer ring generalship(like he did against Antonio) keeping off the ropes and keeping it a boxing match. Cotto certainly comes out the victor i think but you never know, Cotto, in his mid 30's is getting slightly weathered and the furious regime of Anne Wolf may be Kirkland's saving grace but still you never know look at Khan/ Peterson

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Gotta agree. Cotto has some wear and tear. But I think he has the arsenal off jab and has been in enough fire fights to deal mentally and physically with a face first Kirkland.

Kirkland is still Kirkland and still gets and will get caught when he rushes in by straight punches and hard jabs. He is working on slipping but his aggresion and being so tense comes back to bite him. You could time Angulos punches with a sun dial and he knows very little about boxing off the back foot really. I think Cotto weathers the initial storm and times the hell out of Kirkland for a tko.

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Could you envision a Cotto vs. Ricardo Torres scenario ?

I could, except with an aging Cotto not quite having enough to pull it out against the young lion.

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Originally Posted by ReBeL BLacK

I think Cotto would wins if he keeps the fight at a boxing pace. In a lot of ways Kirkland fights like Margarito, a lot of pressure, unbelievable cardio and outstanding heart but Cotto wins this fight from sheer ring generalship(like he did against Antonio) keeping off the ropes and keeping it a boxing match. Cotto certainly comes out the victor i think but you never know, Cotto, in his mid 30's is getting slightly weathered and the furious regime of Anne Wolf may be Kirkland's saving grace but still you never know look at Khan/ Peterson

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Gotta agree. Cotto has some wear and tear. But I think he has the arsenal off jab and has been in enough fire fights to deal mentally and physically with a face first Kirkland.

Kirkland is still Kirkland and still gets and will get caught when he rushes in by straight punches and hard jabs. He is working on slipping but his aggresion and being so tense comes back to bite him. You could time Angulos punches with a sun dial and he knows very little about boxing off the back foot really. I think Cotto weathers the initial storm and times the hell out of Kirkland for a tko.

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Could you envision a Cotto vs. Ricardo Torres scenario ?

I could, except with an aging Cotto not quite having enough to pull it out against the young lion.

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Doesn't anyone want to see Cotto/ Alverez?

Puerto Rico vs Mexico once again yeah?

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Originally Posted by ReBeL BLacK

I think Cotto would wins if he keeps the fight at a boxing pace. In a lot of ways Kirkland fights like Margarito, a lot of pressure, unbelievable cardio and outstanding heart but Cotto wins this fight from sheer ring generalship(like he did against Antonio) keeping off the ropes and keeping it a boxing match. Cotto certainly comes out the victor i think but you never know, Cotto, in his mid 30's is getting slightly weathered and the furious regime of Anne Wolf may be Kirkland's saving grace but still you never know look at Khan/ Peterson

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Gotta agree. Cotto has some wear and tear. But I think he has the arsenal off jab and has been in enough fire fights to deal mentally and physically with a face first Kirkland.

Kirkland is still Kirkland and still gets and will get caught when he rushes in by straight punches and hard jabs. He is working on slipping but his aggresion and being so tense comes back to bite him. You could time Angulos punches with a sun dial and he knows very little about boxing off the back foot really. I think Cotto weathers the initial storm and times the hell out of Kirkland for a tko.

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Could you envision a Cotto vs. Ricardo Torres scenario ?

I could, except with an aging Cotto not quite having enough to pull it out against the young lion.

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Doesn't anyone want to see Cotto/ Alverez?

Puerto Rico vs Mexico once again yeah?

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^^ I would love to see that happened but with Top Rank managing one fighter and Golden boy the other i'm doubtful

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

The Molina fight should kind of show us how Kirkland will deal with someone like Cotto. I think Kirkland is too much of a beast of the current Cotto tbh..

Kirkland can apply the simliar pressure that Margarito did, except he's still fresh with two healthy eyes, plus he hits harder, punch for punch..

Cotto would box well in spots but eventually fold under the pressure.

Kirkland TKO8 Cotto

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Kirkland can't take a punch like Margarito can though and that is what would make this fight interesting.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

The Molina fight should kind of show us how Kirkland will deal with someone like Cotto. I think Kirkland is too much of a beast of the current Cotto tbh..

Kirkland can apply the simliar pressure that Margarito did, except he's still fresh with two healthy eyes, plus he hits harder, punch for punch..

Cotto would box well in spots but eventually fold under the pressure.

Kirkland TKO8 Cotto

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Kirkland can't take a punch like Margarito can though and that is what would make this fight interesting.

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That and the fact that he hits about 5x as hard as Margarito ever did.

But I still think Cotto wins it. His boxing and footwork looked great against Margarito. Kirkland is still extremely raw.

As a latin poster on this forum I would love to cheer for Cotto to win, he is a thinking mans fighter and is a exciting to watch....as a member of this forum I'd love to see this fight and see Cotto get F'd up.

I'd have to favour Cotto

The old skool Cotto would get his head blown off but this new Cotto would out jog Kirkland and land some flurries here and there. But I would love to see Kirkland catch up to him and just end Cotto's career already!

Can't explain it but i have a real irrational hate for that man now...

Cotto has gone from a banger to a slick boxer with very good footwork and tricky combinations. I believe he beats Kirkland.

Don't really understand how you could hate him.