Mayweather needs new challenges
I think we can all agree that the little time Mayweather has left should not be wasted on Khan or Garcia.
Id like to see some interesting challenges like a move up to middle weight where I believe he could clean up, or at least beat the divisions best regarded fighter Martinez. Canelo is a middleweight anyway and his strength played no part what so ever in this fight, I personally thought that would be the one thing that Floyd may struggle with but his sharpness and accuracy intimidates his opponents not to throw.
Could he be successfull at super middle?
Someone like Ward would press the strength advantage because he holds so mch but someone like Froch could be pecked away at all night. Froch like Canelo will do well when someone wants a scrap but put an opponent you cant hit cleanly and who WILL pop you back constantly and he will look shite, like he did against Dirrell. Im not sure Frochs strength would end up laying any part. Mayweather could make him look very silly and slow BUT if he did get caught it could turn sour. Would be very interesting though and maybe a challenge enough for Mayweather to take it and become a legend.
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4 fights left I want to see him in with
1. Martinez
2. Pacman if he looks good against rios
3. Khan just because he's faster than mayweather would be interesting
4. Bradly if he beat Marquez
Then he will be 49-0 we all no he will at least go for 50-0 would love to see him fuck up broner if he's still undefeated.
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I disagree. In my eyes, Garcia has earned his shot at Mayweather and I am no Garcia fan. Bottom line, he sucked it up big time against a tough as nails fighter in Matthysse, he has gone through Judah, Morales & Khan too and is top of his division. I don't think he can win it, but he deserves his chance.
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I disagree. In my eyes, Garcia has earned his shot at Mayweather and I am no Garcia fan. Bottom line, he sucked it up big time against a tough as nails fighter in Matthysse, he has gone through Judah, Morales & Khan too and is top of his division. I don't think he can win it, but he deserves his chance.
I agree, he may have earnt it but scraping past Judah means nothing but the reality is do we want to see that fight? Hes done nothing spectacualr and its going to take someone with something spcial, be it strength, speed, power, whatever to be competetive with Floyd.
Also, beating Mattheysse? He can bang but he lost to Judah!
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I disagree. In my eyes, Garcia has earned his shot at Mayweather and I am no Garcia fan. Bottom line, he sucked it up big time against a tough as nails fighter in Matthysse, he has gone through Judah, Morales & Khan too and is top of his division. I don't think he can win it, but he deserves his chance.
I agree, he may have earnt it but scraping past Judah means nothing but the reality is do we want to see that fight? Hes done nothing spectacualr and its going to take someone with something spcial, be it strength, speed, power, whatever to be competetive with Floyd.
Also, beating Mattheysse?
He can bang but he lost to Judah!
I had Matthysse beating Judah.
As for Floyd, I think he's unbeatable. It will take some major decline for Floyd to lose so I think it doesn't matter who he is in the ring with, he will win. This is why I'd give it to Garcia. I don't think there is any real challenge left at 140-154, and he aint going to middleweight, so just give it to the guy who deserves it most. That guy is probably Garcia. You're absolutely right though, Khan does not deserve a shot and shouldn't get it.
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Floyd is so good and the rest so bad that only a middleweight like Golovkin or Martinez would interest me seeing Floyd again. Floyd has no Hearns, Leonard or Duran unfortunately.
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The fact that people would seriously even talk about Mayweather fighting anyone like Ward, Froch, or Hopkins kind of tells the whole story. These men are so much bigger than him it would almost be a sideshow. It's a shame Martinez isn't a few years younger as he's a small middle and that would've been a great fight.
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The fact that people would seriously even talk about Mayweather fighting anyone like Ward, Froch, or Hopkins kind of tells the whole story. These men are so much bigger than him it would almost be a sideshow. It's a shame Martinez isn't a few years younger as he's a small middle and that would've been a great fight.
This is why I think Floyd would piss all iver him.
With Floyds movement and sharpness he could do the same at super middle. When you look at it Canelo was a middle anyway. If he hadnt fought Canelo and faced Garcia instead everyone would still be raving about Canelo and how Floyd would be scared to face him because of the size but Floyd not only faced him he pissed all iver him. Out of all the super middle champs, Froch would be the easiest for Floyd to hit and the biggest name.
I always used to think that a fighter moving up would just get beaten up but everyone seems to be doing it nowadays. Dont forget we are talking a very special talented, skilled fighter. He isnt getting hit for the strength to make a difference.
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I don't think Garcia should even consider fighting Floyd, because when Floyd retires he can be the next undefeated fighter.
We know Floyd is at the top of his game, next comes Garcia.
I wouldn't want Garcia to tarnish his record with a clear loss... but then again, what if he just wants the money and not the legacy?
I told folks before that Garcia is the REAL DEAL.... to hell with Broner, Danny Garcia is the next big star and already is a star. His star is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
A Garcia/Broner showdown seems inevitable- with Garcia winning by a split or a very close UD.
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... also, I believe Froch and/or GGG sparks Mayweather out cold. Moreso Froch.
I don't think we have been watching the Carl Froch since he made the comeback and won the title by disgracing Lucian Bute. He is a very different Carl Froch. No one, aside from WArd (more of his size and can take a Super Middle punch) is able to deal with Froch at this stage.
A Ward/Mayweather fight would be interesting, but we know it won't happen.
Floyd would more than likely take a Sergio Martinez fight and beat him soundly....
Mayweather won't want a GGG fight. Too much power and too accurate. It's not necessarily the speed, but the size and the punch accuracy- which is much better than Canelo's or anyone else in the business.
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I'm not sure that super middleweight is the way to go, but there is a point in the thread. Who can Mayweather face? He's running out of credible opponents. Khan isn't a viable option. Sorry. Garcia is, although it's not a close fight at all. Bradley/Pacquiao/Martinez are on HBO. I struggle to see who else is out there.
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The fact that people would seriously even talk about Mayweather fighting anyone like Ward, Froch, or Hopkins kind of tells the whole story. These men are so much bigger than him it would almost be a sideshow. It's a shame Martinez isn't a few years younger as he's a small middle and that would've been a great fight.
This is why I think Floyd would piss all iver him.
With Floyds movement and sharpness he could do the same at super middle. When you look at it Canelo was a middle anyway. If he hadnt fought Canelo and faced Garcia instead everyone would still be raving about Canelo and how Floyd would be scared to face him because of the size but Floyd not only faced him he pissed all iver him. Out of all the super middle champs, Froch would be the easiest for Floyd to hit and the biggest name.
I always used to think that a fighter moving up would just get beaten up but everyone seems to be doing it nowadays. Dont forget we are talking a very special talented, skilled fighter. He isnt getting hit for the strength to make a difference.
Mayweather has already moved up so much, he is actually weighing less in the ring than he does making 150 for weigh ins. Froch and Ward are really big guys in comparison, they have been at 168 since they were young men, when Floyd was still a featherweight. I don't give Floyd a realistic chance against people like that, it's a mind boggling size disparity. How exactly would Floyd approach training for a supermiddleweight fight, is he going to bulk up to 161 for the weigh in, or just give up 15 pounds instead. Either way it's not even really a fight as much as a sideshow, he'd lose strictly due to size which is never what you want to see.
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I think Floyd might be flying too close ot the sun if he choses to go up to MW or SMW. Floyd said himself he woke up the day of the fight at 146, which means that he's not cutting weight for WW, so he most likely is a natural 140lber. Going up and taking the 160lb punch, especially from a guy like Golovkin, would be murder. Even if he's taking it on his arms, physically I don't think he can stand up to that kind of power and I don't think he'd have enough power at that weight to keep guys from charging him.
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... also, I believe Froch and/or GGG sparks Mayweather out cold. Moreso Froch.
I don't think we have been watching the Carl Froch since he made the comeback and won the title by disgracing Lucian Bute. He is a very different Carl Froch. No one, aside from WArd (more of his size and can take a Super Middle punch) is able to deal with Froch at this stage.
A Ward/Mayweather fight would be interesting, but we know it won't happen.
Floyd would more than likely take a Sergio Martinez fight and beat him soundly....
Mayweather won't want a GGG fight. Too much power and too accurate. It's not necessarily the speed, but the size and the punch accuracy- which is much better than Canelo's or anyone else in the business.
What the fuck has Golovkin done at all to be mentioned in the same breath as Mayweather?
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The fact that people would seriously even talk about Mayweather fighting anyone like Ward, Froch, or Hopkins kind of tells the whole story. These men are so much bigger than him it would almost be a sideshow. It's a shame Martinez isn't a few years younger as he's a small middle and that would've been a great fight.
This is why I think Floyd would piss all iver him.
With Floyds movement and sharpness he could do the same at super middle. When you look at it Canelo was a middle anyway. If he hadnt fought Canelo and faced Garcia instead everyone would still be raving about Canelo and how Floyd would be scared to face him because of the size but Floyd not only faced him he pissed all iver him. Out of all the super middle champs, Froch would be the easiest for Floyd to hit and the biggest name.
I always used to think that a fighter moving up would just get beaten up but everyone seems to be doing it nowadays. Dont forget we are talking a very special talented, skilled fighter. He isnt getting hit for the strength to make a difference.
Mayweather has already moved up so much, he is actually weighing less in the ring than he does making 150 for weigh ins.
Froch and Ward are really big guys in comparison, they have been at 168 since they were young men, when Floyd was still a featherweight. I don't give Floyd a realistic chance against people like that, it's a mind boggling size disparity. How exactly would Floyd approach training for a supermiddleweight fight, is he going to bulk up to 161 for the weigh in, or just give up 15 pounds instead. Either way it's not even really a fight as much as a sideshow, he'd lose strictly due to size which is never what you want to see.
Ward started pro at middle...
Floyd wouldnt need to bulk up,he just beat the biggest deal at light middle who routinly weighs more than Froch does in his fights.
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I think he could actually clean up middle weight. No KO's, but out box a win against all of them.
Super middles just wouldnt work, they are still small enough to be agile, yet they could walk right through him. He'd probably fair better (if you did start doing circus fights) against someone much bigger and slower.
Now also seems a good time to mention the whole heavyweight, weight differences. We talk about a fight not being able to happen with Floyd because of 15lbs, yet Haye is giving away 3 stone to Fury this weekend! Is it really that much different? It wouldn't make it impossible.
Floyd though is not going to want to disadvantage himself in any way though.
Yeah... Froch;)
