Biggest backfiring trashtalking or ring entrances
It's ego-bashing enough when you get KTFO'ed or otherwise dismantled in the ring. But when that comes after you've trash-talked your way into the trash-talking HOF.... or after an outlandish, prolonged, theatrical entrance.... it's got to feel much worse. I wanted to make a poll, but I was sure I'd leave out some very notable instances. So I'll just mention some that come to mind.
Mayorga-Trinidad
Mayorga-DLH
Man, I actually loved this character. He never had a dull fight. But he ran his mouth waaay too much, and then got his ass handed to him in those two fights. Perfect example of having your mouth "write a check your ass can't cash." Still... he was colorful and always exciting to watch.
Tyson-Lewis
Tyson really went overboard with Lewis, getting all sexual and stuff :-X .
Unfortunately for Mike.... Lewis had the last word in "lights out" fashion.
Rahman-Lewis II
Rahman called Lewis, his sister gay... his whole family gay. Then he grabbed Lewis and threw him on top of a table on a TV show with Roy Firestone. I remember at first I didn't care who won the rematch. But after that, I was definitely rooting for Lewis to get some payback. Boy, did he ever. I think Rahman is STILL stretched out on the canvas after that Lewis right hand.
Ali-Frazier I
Ali called Frazier every name in the book, most notable "gorilla". He ridiculed Frazier so much, the hatred went on through Frazier's entire life. But in Ali-Frazier I, Smokin' Joe got the last laugh.
Judah-Tszyu
I'm not sure how much, if any, trash-talking Zab did before this fight. But just his demeanor alone made me want for him to lose bad. And we all know what happened after that. The ol' chicken dance, followed by Zab inexplicably taking it out on Jay Nady.
Naseem-MAB
A personal favorite. All the magic carpet rides, disco dancing, smoke screens, silhouette dancing and prancing. None of that shit did any good at fight time. What a thoroughly enjoyable, humiliating beatdown. Turned out to be career-ending, also.
And last but definitely not least...........
Haye-Wlad
If belts were given out for trash-talking, Haye would be undefeated, undisputed. The guy talked so much shit... he basically hyped the fight all by himself. Had he not chosen boxing, a career as a used-car salesman would've been right down his alley. Unfortunately, then the "fight" happened. And I use the term "fight" loosely. Damned big toe! ;)
I'm sure there's more, like the video of that guy who came into the ring doing a dance from his locker room all the way into the ring..... and then got KTFO'ed in the 1st round. The ring walk back must've seemed like 5 miles worth.
So what other examples are out there?
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I don't know if haye v wlad is one of the biggest backfires of trash talk... it was a pretty tame fight and haye was never really close to being knocked out.. Wladimir easily owned the fight though but to be the most humilitating backfire would require a major ko I think...
ALthoguh wladimir completely won the comedy insult battle with his silent video after the fight.. :S
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palmerq
I don't know if haye v wlad is one of the biggest backfires of trash talk... it was a pretty tame fight and haye was never really close to being knocked out.. Wladimir easily owned the fight though but to be the most humilitating backfire would require a major ko I think...
ALthoguh wladimir completely won the comedy insult battle with his silent video after the fight.. :S
I see your point, particularly when you consider the other fights ended in knockouts (well... except Ali-Frazier and MAB-Naseem). But when you look at the extent of the Haye pre-fight talk versus his performance that night..... the gap between the two is immense.
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Vernon Forrest rapping into the ring to defend his titles against Mayorga.. He figured the fight was in bag but the wild man had different plans..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcGfWWJR3mE
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Frasier beating Ali in the fight of the century.
Naz with his magical entrance getting battered by Barrera.
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TitoFan
I'm sure there's more, like the video of that guy who came into the ring doing a dance from his locker room all the way into the ring..... and then got KTFO'ed in the 1st round. The ring walk back must've seemed like 5 miles worth.
Yeah, that was the flamboyant Anthony Hembrick dancing around, Booker T Word was the guy took him out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTTXSJiYiss
With some guys, it's just an expected act like Mayorga and Camacho Sr, done for entertainment value to build the gate. I always really enjoyed their stuff, it was comedy.
The mean-spirited, beyond arrogant ones though, they really seemed to believe their own bull$#!t...
In MMA. I think Tim Sylvia's pre-fight comments before getting clocked by an ancient Ray Mercer in 10 seconds was hilarious!
I'm actually a fan of Big Tim Sylvia.
Tim called out ol' Ray for a Boxing match.
A couple days before the scheduled fight, it's switched to an MMA match.
The old man still took the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivsv_EKN-dg
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The Hembrick - Word was absolutely epic! He was spouting off the moment they went on air and was just demolished in front of the home crowd.
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I think Broners first loss, will make this list. Hopefully soon.
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Bernard Hopkins-Felix Trinidad- I wonder why this one was left out? Anyway Trindad looking like a straight fucking queer with his police man hat on comes out doing some gay ass dance that looks like he's riding some imaginary horse. Trinidad gets schooled, beat up and than stopped for the first time in his career. Trinidad had never dance going to ring before. He never danced to the ring after either
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Violent Demise
Bernard Hopkins-Felix Trinidad- I wonder why this one was left out? Anyway Trindad looking like a straight fucking queer with his police man hat on comes out doing some gay ass dance that looks like he's riding some imaginary horse. Trinidad gets schooled, beat up and than stopped for the first time in his career. Trinidad had never dance going to ring before. He never danced to the ring after either
haha forgot about that one. I remember watching him dance thinking like dam this dude has no rythm.. That also explains his poor footwork in the ring..
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Violent Demise
Bernard Hopkins-Felix Trinidad- I wonder why this one was left out? Anyway Trindad looking like a straight fucking queer with his police man hat on comes out doing some gay ass dance that looks like he's riding some imaginary horse. Trinidad gets schooled, beat up and than stopped for the first time in his career. Trinidad had never dance going to ring before. He never danced to the ring after either
Trinidad's people were wearing Firemen helmets and police caps in honor of the firehouses and Police involved in the rescue effort in 9/11 seeing how the fight was originally was supposed to happen the week of the tragedy, ummm what was Vargas' excuse for that gay "Mayan Warrior" entrance against Trinidad?! lol only thing he was able to drop and keep down were some cardboard blocks, also his ass talked too much shit against DLH where he was once again schooled
Hatton talked too much shit against Floyd
as did Toney in well nearly all of his fights