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seriously, canelo couldnt get down another pound? even if that is true, then dont fight at 154! the rule needs to go back to same day weigh ins. make bigger fines for coming in overweight so that it will force people to stay in their correct weight class or at least a weight class that they know for sure they can make. im all for taking 90% of their purse and just telling them that they should have followed the rules.
This does seem to be happening more with Mexican fighters, and why totally unprofessional
with in a week Canelo, Salido, not making weight.!!!!
Very unprofessional, and the only reason a guy like Canelo can do it is because he has the power and there's no way Angulo is going to turn down the fight.
I think the commissions should stipulate that if you don't make weight, you automatically forfeit 50% of your purse to your opponent.
It's rediculous, the contract says it's being held at a certain weight, so it's your ultimate responisibility to make that weight.
Angulo should smash him in the face with his elbow, and when he complains say "ohhh, you thought the contract said 155? I thought the contract said this was under MMA rules."
Das bullshit. They did the same thing in the first Chavez-Vera fight. They changed the official weight limit at the last minute for chavez... lol
And/or enter the fight one point down (good suggestion on a sweetscience article today).Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Getting fined is justified but entering the fight with one point down is pretty silly.. this is pro boxing, not some play fighting..Quote:
Originally Posted by goti71And/or enter the fight one point down (good suggestion on a sweetscience article today).Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
One point down is gay dude.
Not gay. In that case so is a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaGetting fined is justified but entering the fight with one point down is pretty silly.. this is pro boxing, not some play fighting..Quote:
Originally Posted by goti71And/or enter the fight one point down (good suggestion on a sweetscience article today).Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
One point down is gay dude.
The point deduction simply levels out the advantage of coming in heavier but doesn't make it play fighting IMHO. So a pro-boxer needs to come in heavier than a supposedly inferior opponent? Now that's weak.
A fine won't do anything if you have the cash/name as someone said before or somewhere else or whatever but a point less would make "pros" think about it.
I think Canelo will win anyway. Better boxer.
I think being docked 50% of your purse would be a big enough motivator to cutting this shit out. Especially when you're name is Canelo or Mayweather, and 50% of your purse is MILLIONS of dollars lost for you.
getting docked a significant amount of money is the only way to solve it. the weight is in the contract. and your opponent should be able to forfeit the fight while receiving compensation from the fighter that didnt make weight.
for example, if canelo comes over 1 pound, angulo should be able to do one of two things. first, take 50% of his purse. canelo is making 1.25 million for the fight so angulo takes around 600,000 from canelo (although maybe he should also get part of his profits from the event too that canelo is receiving). or second scenario, angulo just takes 25% of what the higher paid fighter (which is canelo in this fight) would have earned and skip the match. so angulo could walk with around 300,000. this would at least somewhat solve the problem of a lower paid fighter still being forced to fight at a disadvantage because of the money. they could still earn money (not as much though) and just take another fight later on.
i like it.
Only problem here is if the lower paid fighter refused to fight he'd probably never get another big pay fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I like this idea of docking points ;-)
Fining fighters aint gonna work for title fights as most are already fairl wealthy when they get to that stage anyway.
The advantage Salido had over Lomanchenko last saturday was a joke and made for an unfair fight.
After seeing that fight go ahead of course other fighters are gonna try and take the piss out of the system and gain an advantage so take that advantage away and let them enter the fight 1 or 2 rounds down!
Stopping someone's purse wont take away any advantage once they step through the ropes so its pointless ;)
fight is in jeopardy if Canelo comes in heavier than 168 today, those were the terms for the weight increase, straight up lazy asses, Jr, Canelo, and Salido, bunch of unprofessional bitches
The Mexican fight scene in Mexico is very poor... they allow anything to happen and thus when the new fighters come into the international arena, they show poor ethics.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Gone are the days of JJC Sr., Morrales, Barrera, etc, etc... these were the last set of Mexican fighters that showed professionalism and class.
This new breed of fighters seem jaded, unconcerned and just in it for whatever reason.
But, the weight classed need to be re-classified. Too many and for no real purpose. jmo....