Is there anybody who thinks Pacquiao wasn't using PEDs?

Gaining weight so fast and easy, carrying power up, refusing to take Olympic-style drug testing, and then sending emails to Floyd's camp asking A) what the penalty would be if Pac tested positive and B) if he did test positive, could it be kept a secret...

Is there anyone who honestly thinks he wasn't using PEDs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cSq9YlLMuM

^skip to 7 minutes for Teddy's part.

I know people will say "aww rumors and hearsay", but coming from Teddy, who is a big name in the business and is quoting a source that he trusts enough to say it on live TV, I think that counts for something.

I don't even work out any more and my biceps are bigger than Pacquiaos, he clearly couldn't have been on roids. I'm pretty sure he wore brass knuckles beneath his wraps until the Clottey fight, that's all.

Teddy's a fuckin idiot. Of course Manny was on roids, probably still is. Floyd too for that matter.

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Originally Posted by dick_handsome

Teddy's a fuckin idiot. Of course Manny was on roids, probably still is. Floyd too for that matter.

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No Floyd does drug testing.

Your point?

PED's is a broad term.... synthetic drugs, or natural drugs?

You see? We have to classify if whether or these drugs are first illegal. Second, are these drugs damaging to his system. Third, what is a "bad" PED and a "good" PED.

I'm quite certain that some drugs, while they boost stamina and performance, can't be classified as a PED in the colloquial sense of the term- meaning that they are full blown ROIDS like what the Professional Wrestlers use and what the Olympics Committee classify as negative/bad PED's.

Wild salmon is a PED, you guys don't understand how many fighters aren't getting the right omega 3 spectrum in their diet. They should test for all seafood or just let these guys bring guns into the ring, whats the difference.

Pacquaio was always clean..

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Pacquaio was always clean..

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Manny was clean and brilliant. Now he is old and slower.

There will always be doubt becuase he refused to prove otherwise. He also made up bullshit excuses as to why he couldnt like being scared of needles.

Its a joke. Innocent until proven guilty. He had the chamce to prove he was innocent and refused, so its his own fault he is now seen as a cheat.

Unfortunately, in this day and age, there is doubt for every boxer regarding PEDs unless there is transparent VADA-style testing 360 days a year. A top boxer could cycle in and off when he's not being tested and still benefit a lot. It's hard not to have doubts about Floyd, Manny, Hopkins etc.

Manny wouldn't submit to tests. Suspicious.

There's a lot of rumors about Floyd too. Allegedly, his attorneys come down hard on people when accusations are made. Two or three boxers on his team in his camp tested positive. Suspicious.

Hopkins hasn't done VADA-style testing. Suspicious.

The only fighter I'm pretty confident isn't on anything is Nonito Donaire.

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Originally Posted by ross

There will always be doubt becuase he refused to prove otherwise. He also made up bullshit excuses as to why he couldnt like being scared of needles.

Its a joke. Innocent until proven guilty. He had the chamce to prove he was innocent and refused, so its his own fault he is now seen as a cheat.

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Pac didnt have to prove anything because the accusation was baseless..

That's why he took floyd to court for defamation of character and had that bitch nigga backtracking..

Floyd settled out of court for undisclosed amount of money.. if he was so sure that pac was on drugs, he would have fought in court..

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Unfortunately, in this day and age, there is doubt for every boxer regarding PEDs unless there is transparent VADA-style testing 360 days a year. A top boxer could cycle in and off when he's not being tested and still benefit a lot. It's hard not to have doubts about Floyd, Manny, Hopkins etc.

Manny wouldn't submit to tests. Suspicious.

There's a lot of rumors about Floyd too. Allegedly, his attorneys come down hard on people when accusations are made. Two or three boxers on his team in his camp tested positive. Suspicious.

Hopkins hasn't done VADA-style testing. Suspicious.

The only fighter I'm pretty confident isn't on anything is Nonito Donaire.

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That's very true Mr. Rantcatrat.

I think what we are coming to now is that unless you are signed up to go through VADA testing, you are a suspect.

I applaude guys like Donaire and Bradley who have voluntarily gone through the VADA process in an effort to clean up the sport.

If you want to sell a piece of autographed memorabilia, you have to get it authenticated by a reputable company... VADA provides athletes a way to "authenticate" themselves and remove doubt about how legitimate their "supplementation" is...

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

That's why he took floyd to court for defamation of character and had that bitch nigga backtracking..

Floyd settled out of court for undisclosed amount of money.. if he was so sure that pac was on drugs, he would have fought in court..

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Yeah but if you go out and say psychics are fake, or chiropractors are quacks, you'll get sued and lose your house because even though you're right, you need proof to defend any slanderous remarks you make.

If you say the Long Island Medium is a fake and it's all bullshit, she'll sue you and you'll lose because you can't prove she isn't a psychic.

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Originally Posted by dick_handsome

Teddy's a fuckin idiot. Of course Manny was on roids, probably still is. Floyd too for that matter.

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No Floyd does drug testing.

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Hah! And? So does Bradley and look at his head it's mahoosive.