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I voted no. I think he was juicig for the pac fight but not the alvarado one.
No he never takes drugs.
He's at least using TRT.
Nevada has banned therapeutic usage exemptions for testosterone replacement now, so we'll have to see if JMM fights in Vegas anymore.
His first fight after Nevada banning TRT was in California, so we'll have to see if he (and others) start ducking Las Vegas.
I was suprise to see him drop Alvarado and bust his face up the way he did. Alvarado is a big welterweight! JMM is suppose to be a featherweight or lightweight. :o JMM has def boost up his power at the age of 40!Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
You should of voted yes if you think he had juice ever.
Can't put past the possibility of anyone that drinks his own urine, wouldn't easliy dable in other stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I haven't seen proof that he has or is, and I'm not going to trash one of the better fighters in 20+ years based on a case of acne and being ablt to floor a guy who eats punches on the reg ffs. Better time is spent sticking to match up speculation and guess work honestly.
Never tested dirty. Never refused to be tested. Doesn't claimed to fear needles.
No what proof its there? completely looked his age in pac fight till ko from hell. Looked his age in bradley fight, marquez would always look like thirty if he was sixty fighting guys with alverados skill all the time...
The greatest boxer of all of time out of Mexico.
This Fearless icon puts his own legacy on the line by hiring a prosecuted drug cheat, Angel Heredia, in order to get bigger, faster, easier--expediently without suffering any lag in speed and agility if not to likewise, as an aside, have tremendously improved on those aspects too.
I would like to hear what his countrymen and contemporaries namely MAB and El Terrible (both ranked ahead of him during fighting days at the featherweight era) have to say about this vastly accelerated weapons and skills upgrade despite the advanced age... I will be surprised if they think he is clean.
Yes, he chose to dirty up so he can be the greatest ever, ever, ever, boxer of all time out of Mexico. It was and still is a safe move, foolproof--what with Heredia constantly schooling the other side of the spectrum in not failing any drug test in this "cat and mouse PED" game.
Never thought, around the time frame before the FMJ fight that Marquez can grow as big as a barn to easily elicit bewilderment with his sheer size and mascularity in a weight category--only paralleled once and only time, IMO, by Eddie Mustafa Muhammad... He was all arms, shoulders and girth to go with spindly legs. Like that of a crab.
JMM was distinctly bigger than Alvarado, at fight night! Amazing.
All said and done, my hats off to Juan Manuel Marquez, not before long, the greatest boxer of all time bar none...what with Angel Heredia and Nacho Beristain on his side, he will be.
FMJ is staying out of this picture, for easily JMM represents the real threat to his "0" if things get crazy and they end up slugging it out in a rematch.
When did Heredia become a strenght and conditioning coach? The guy is a chemist, he makes drugs. Thats all he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
He refused in the Bradley fight foo Bradley did VADA testing JMM refused! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Marquez preferred USADA over VADA. Either way both took extensive tests that were paid for by Arum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainHe refused in the Bradley fight foo Bradley did VADA testing JMM refused! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Bob fucking Arum!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMarquez preferred USADA over VADA. Either way both took extensive tests that were paid for by Arum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainHe refused in the Bradley fight foo Bradley did VADA testing JMM refused! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise