Quotes from Stevie Collins/Freddie Roach on Roy Jones Jr
Steve Collins: "I first met Roy 20 years ago when he came to Ireland to represent the USA, he was over - powered by my team - mate and it was in the category below me ( light - middleweight ). I was fighting there too and I won my fight and I offered to have a friendly sparring with Roy if he wanted and he refused. Roy Jones is an ectomorph, always was an ectomorph. I'm an endomorph or mesomorph, I have big bones. I even fought at heavyweight in the junior's. Now this is one reason I would of beaten Roy Jones. If I made it rough and tumble, it would be like a man against a boy. Why do you think Roy Jones has failed to knockout light - heavyweights? It's because he is an ectomorph and shouldn't of been boxing in as high a weight - category as that. Just look how small his waist is, look how skinny his wrists are."
Collins beat John Reid in 1986 at 165 in the Irish middle final, Jones lost to John Reid a few weeks later at 156.
source: http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/jones.html
Freddie Roach: "Roy was only fighting guys who he knew didn't truly want to fight him, he wouldn't fight anybody who would stand up to him and believed they would beat him. That's why Steve (Collins) would of beat him, he'd of roughed him up. He'd of been at Roy's chest, sticking to Roy like glue. He'd of won the fight on infighting."
Steve Collins: "Oh no. He's a tough b******, Vinnie. I'd fight [former world super-middleweight, light-middleweight and heavyweight champ] Roy Jones before I'd fight Vinnie Jones."
source: http://sport.guardian.co.uk/smalltal...359507,00.html
QUESTION: Steve, Roy Jones Jnr showed absolutely no interest in fighting you for a unification fight at super-middleweight. It's difficult to believe that the man who has been the best pound-for-pound fighter for the past 10 years or more would have been scared of you in the slightest. What was the real reason the fight never even got to the negotiation table?
James Slattery
STEVE COLLINS: Well James, I travelled to Pensacola to see Roy Jones fight and I actually climbed into the ring after his fight. I accused him of avoiding me and I challenged him live on national TV. At the post-fight conference I spoke to Jones and the press, I called him a coward and a yellow dog and I offered to fight him, winners take all. I would have beaten Roy Jones and he knew it!
source: http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...160284,00.html
Ian Darke: "Now you have beaten Chris Eubank twice and now Nigel Benn twice, Who do you want now?"
Steve Collins: "The fight I've been looking for, for a long time is Roy Jones. But Roy Jones is running scared, he fights nobodies, he fights men with prison records not boxing records. If Roy Jones doesn't fight then people will remember him as the man who was afraid of Steve Collins."
Collins first wanted to fight Jones after Jones beat Hopkins, because Collins was IBF number-one contender.
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Collins stopped Chirino, Chirino then went the distance with Jones.
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:coolclick: WWATT....interesting stuff
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WWatt, you do seem to have a certain fascination with certain fighters from a certain time.....such as eubank and benn et al....
im not sure why, but yeah, keep on posting this stuff....it does make good reading...
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actually, one of my strangest memories from childhood concerned eubank....
i was 11 years old and was shopping with my parents in brighton.....and stood outside a shop was eubank in a white shirt and black trousers. i knew who he was because i was a fight fan even then......
he just stood there leaning against the wall.....he didnt seem to be very busy that day...
just a memory that has always stayed with me....
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actually, one of my strangest memories from childhood concerned eubank....
i was 11 years old and was shopping with my parents in brighton.....and stood outside a shop was eubank in a white shirt and black trousers. i knew who he was because i was a fight fan even then......
he just stood there leaning against the wall.....he didnt seem to be very busy that day...
just a memory that has always stayed with me....
Lol. What year was that?
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Steve Collins would of got his ass kicked, shame Roy never had the balls to get in the ring with him.
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Steve Collins would of got his ass kicked, shame Roy never had the balls to get in the ring with him.
Totally agree ;D
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I think that fight did not make sense from a money point of view for Jones as it would be in the US and most have never heard of Collins.
Jones would win it easy if they had fought.
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Originally Posted by miles
actually, one of my strangest memories from childhood concerned eubank....
i was 11 years old and was shopping with my parents in brighton.....and stood outside a shop was eubank in a white shirt and black trousers. i knew who he was because i was a fight fan even then......
he just stood there leaning against the wall.....he didnt seem to be very busy that day...
just a memory that has always stayed with me....
Lol. What year was that?
jeez...at a guess maybe around 1990/1991....
i used to live in worthing at the time, not too far from brighton...
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that might make sense to..an armchair fan..but when you wake up and realize that boxing isn't about who stopped who and if X stops B, and Z goes the distance with B, clearly X beats Z...
boxing is about rock, paper, and scissors..but not always, in some cases rock can overcome paper, and paper can overcome scissors..depending on what kinda hell they put themselves through to prepare for the fight...
fuckin armchair fans crack me up
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jones also ducked benn (i wouldve too)
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that might make sense to..an armchair fan..but when you wake up and realize that boxing isn't about who stopped who and if X stops B, and Z goes the distance with B, clearly X beats Z...
boxing is about rock, paper, and scissors..but not always, in some cases rock can overcome paper, and paper can overcome scissors..depending on what kinda hell they put themselves through to prepare for the fight...
f***in armchair fans crack me up
You really believed I was being serious?? Shame on you, dumbass.
Lol.
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And it takes some armchair fan to knock a Wayne Asker clean out with your right hook when Asker had never even been put down before amateur or pro. Go fuck yourself, or I'll make you my bitch.
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Go f*** yourself, or I'll make you my bitch.
damn that was soooo original...you made that up yourself didn't you?
I'll say it one more time, then I have to go work on plyometrics...
BOXING IS NOT ABOUT IF A KO'S B, AND C UD'S B, A IS BETTER THAN C. ITS A FUCKING SITUATION OF ROCK PAPER SCISSORS AND A VARIABLE OF HOW HARD A GUY TRAINED, THROWN IN.
take your annoying novice bullshit elsewhere..
