Re-watched Castillo-Mayweather---WOW did Jose kick Floyd's behind!

George Foreman scored it 116-111 for Jose, Larry Merchant had it 114-112 for Jose, Harold Lederman had it 115-111 for Castillo. What a Highway Robbery. THAT was the way to beat Floyd, get him on the ropes and fire away, bust his body up, outpunch him, snap his head back again and again. Castillo sure had his number and deserved the CLEAR VICTORY.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCTWc3xFiw

I can't remember how I scored it, I think I had Castillo winning 7-5.

To Floyd's credit, he made the adjustments after that fight and the rematch wasn't nearly as competitive.

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I can't remember how I scored it, I think I had Castillo winning 7-5.

To Floyd's credit, he made the adjustments after that fight and the rematch wasn't nearly as competitive.

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This is the driving reason why I don't want Mayweather vs Maidana 2....

They should call it: May vs. Mai 2 - "Adjustments will be May'd" (see what I did there) ;)

Castillo was a beast at 135 and should have won that first fight. Floyd doesn't get enough credit for taking Castillo on and dominating the rematch after making the adjustments. In my opinion, the Castillo was more impressive than the Chico or Hatton wins. The other two were more complete stoppage wins, but in my opinion prime Castillo was a better n more complete fighter than the other two. Plus, he was HUGE for that weight against Floyd.

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Castillo was a beast at 135 and should have won that first fight. Floyd doesn't get enough credit for taking Castillo on and dominating the rematch after making the adjustments. In my opinion, the Castillo was more impressive than the Chico or Hatton wins. The other two were more complete stoppage wins, but in my opinion prime Castillo was a better n more complete fighter than the other two. Plus, he was HUGE for that weight against Floyd.

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Very true, although I do rate Hatton above JLC.

JLC was an absolute beast at that time and a very large LW.

People call Floyd a pussy and a ducker, but he fought JLC with a torn rotator cuff and gave him an immediate rematch afterwards.

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George Foreman scored it 116-111 for Jose, Larry Merchant had it 114-112 for Jose, Harold Lederman had it 115-111 for Castillo. What a Highway Robbery. THAT was the way to beat Floyd, get him on the ropes and fire away, bust his body up, outpunch him, snap his head back again and again. Castillo sure had his number and deserved the CLEAR VICTORY.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCTWc3xFiw

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I thought Floyd won both fights. He's still undefeated. Ppl are always trying to picks holes in FM career. Even Maidana some are saying he won, well ok, looks like Maidana will get his chance again..now see what happens ?

You know if these guy were really better, they'd be able to do it again. You seen it with Froch-Groves which was controversial 1st time around were everyone saying (Me included) that the ref should not have stopped

But now it's looking like the greatest stoppage of all time because Froch almost certainly would have finished him off. Nevertheless they fought again and the result was even more emphatic 2nd time around, which is often what usually happens in rematches that were made because the 1st fight was controversial.

The winner of the 1st fight is often the winner of the 2nd fight

(And please no-one come with examples to disprove what I said was wrong. I know there will be examples to disprove what I said but I'm talking generally)

I saw Castillo on the undercard of Chavez v Gamache and thought that he was the best fighter on the card. Erik Morales and Enrique Sanchez also fought that night. I have never seen this fight, with Mayweather, which is pretty unlikely, but I'm going to watch it now.

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George Foreman scored it 116-111 for Jose, Larry Merchant had it 114-112 for Jose, Harold Lederman had it 115-111 for Castillo. What a Highway Robbery. THAT was the way to beat Floyd, get him on the ropes and fire away, bust his body up, outpunch him, snap his head back again and again. Castillo sure had his number and deserved the CLEAR VICTORY.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCTWc3xFiw

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(And please no-one come with examples to disprove what I said was wrong. I know there will be examples to disprove what I said but I'm talking generally)

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Probably the greatest thing I have ever read on any forum ever...

Castillo beat him clearly. By four points, I thought.

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Originally Posted by greynotsoold

Castillo beat him clearly. By four points, I thought.

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That settles it.

If grey days Castillo beat him then Castillo beat him.

I've always thought so as well.

Yep, he sure did.


...and Castillo was basically a poor man's Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.



Before Castillo, Mayweather fought the best guys at their best.
After the Castillo scare of 2002, Floyd began cherry-picking and avoiding the top, prime elite fighters for the next 8 years or so.

Man, I have to disagree that Floyd cherry picked. Hatton was in his prime and was considered a viable threat after beating Kostya. Baldomir was a much larger fighter and was the lineal champ coming off of a HUGE upset of Zab Judah. Canelo Alvarez was considered a viable threat to Floyd. Shane Mosely was considered a threat after destroying Margarito, n Floyd had been trying to fight him for close to a decade before he ended up beating him.

I would've liked to have seen Floyd fight Oscar n Mosely sooner and fought Paul Williams, Kostya, n Manny. That being said, I can't put all of the blame on him for those fights not happening, as I feel circumstances n the the other fighters themselves had as much to do with those fights not happening.

Floyd is a great fighter. All Time Great Fighter. In the discussion for best fighter of the last 30 years with legends like Leonard, Hagler, Whitaker, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Evander Holyfield, Duran...etc. He ISN'T in the discussion for G.O.A.T., due to missed opportunities n lack of HOF prime opponents available. To day that he ducks

Man, I have to disagree that Floyd cherry picked. Hatton was in his prime and was considered a viable threat after beating Kostya. Baldomir was a much larger fighter and was the lineal champ coming off of a HUGE upset of Zab Judah. Canelo Alvarez was considered a viable threat to Floyd. Shane Mosely was considered a threat after destroying Margarito, n Floyd had been trying to fight him for close to a decade before he ended up beating him.

I would've liked to have seen Floyd fight Oscar n Mosely sooner and fought Paul Williams, Kostya, n Manny. That being said, I can't put all of the blame on him for those fights not happening, as I feel circumstances n the the other fighters themselves had as much to do with those fights not happening.

Floyd is a great fighter. All Time Great Fighter. In the discussion for best fighter of the last 30 years with legends like Leonard, Hagler, Whitaker, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Evander Holyfield, Duran...etc. He ISN'T in the discussion for G.O.A.T., due to missed opportunities n lack of HOF prime opponents available. To say that he ducks anyone or hand picked opponents just isn't accurate either. He is without question an all time great fighter n more than willing to face the biggest challenges, assuming the money is right.

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Yep, he sure did.


...and Castillo was basically a poor man's Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.



Before Castillo, Mayweather fought the best guys at their best.
After the Castillo scare of 2002, Floyd began cherry-picking and avoiding the top, prime elite fighters for the next 8 years or so.

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You mean Gatti, Bruselles, Mitchell and the boys weren't elite?

Lol

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Yep, he sure did.


...and Castillo was basically a poor man's Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.



Before Castillo, Mayweather fought the best guys at their best.
After the Castillo scare of 2002, Floyd began cherry-picking and avoiding the top, prime elite fighters for the next 8 years or so.

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You mean Gatti, Bruselles, Mitchell and the boys weren't elite?

Lol

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He said PRIME elite sir. Not fighters who once were elite. Gatti was past he's best daya when he fought Floyd