Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
If a fighter who by even his OWN fans is considered rather limited in skills can beat Wladimir, just imagine what guys like Riddick Bowe/Mike Tyson/Lennox Lewis/Joe Louis/Evander Holyfield/George Foreman would do to that Klown of Kiev.
Wladimir Klinch-ko: EXPOSED! What we always suspected. Not even Top 15 ATG.
Re: Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
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brocktonblockbust
If a fighter who by even his OWN fans is considered rather limited in skills can beat Wladimir, just imagine what guys like Riddick Bowe/Mike Tyson/Lennox Lewis/Joe Louis/Evander Holyfield/George Foreman would do to that Klown of Kiev.
Wladimir Klinch-ko: EXPOSED! What we always suspected. Not even Top 15 ATG.
Riddick Bowe took a lot of stick of Andrew Golota, who stupidly fouled himself twice to get the DQ in two fights he should have won. I'd rate Wlad higher than Golata.
Lennox Lewis was lucky that Wlad's brother Vitali got cut in the sixth round to end their fight. Vitali was more than holding his own in that fight and who knows how that would have played out if Vitali had not got cut and Lewis did not fight again after that fight. I'd rate Wlad higher than Vitali.
Joe Louis would have been too small and would have been bounced round the ring.
Tyson ? Tyson never won a fight were he had to fight. He never won a fight were he had to bite down. He never won a nip and tuck dog fight. Every time a figher stood up to Tyson and hit back hard and went toe to toe with him, he lost. Tyson was a great on top fighter. The question is whether Wlad would be there after five rounds ? Maybe. Maybe Tyson would steam rolled him.
Foreman ? Foreman was slow and ponderous and maybe Wlad would have been able to catch him with the over hand right.
People always look back, at past heavy weights as if they were better.
In Ali's day, they looked back to Marciano's day. In Marciano's day, they looked back to Joe Louis days, In Joe Louis day, they looked back to Jack Dempsey's day. It never ends.
Wlad was second only to Joe Louis in having the longest reign for a heavyweight champ. Bowe. Lewis. Foreman's reign were over night in comparison. Golota never even won a world title. In 30 years time people will be saying Wlad was great.
I'm not saying Wlad would have beaten them all, he might well have lost to them all, but looking at the facts, it's not right to say they all would have for sure beaten him.
Re: Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
The Bowe that fought Golata already had brain damage. Lewis would ko him late. Tyson would have had him in 5, the same he did to Frank Bruno.
The Bowe that won the title and beat Holyfield would have ko'd Wlad in about 7 or 8.
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Lennox would have beat him at any point in his career. Bowe and Tyson would have to have been in their primes. Especially Tyson...talking late eighties Tyson.
Re: Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
Bowe was talented but not a great heavyweight champion. Having one great fight to win the title does not make you a great heavyweight champion.
Lennox and Tyson were brilliant champions and dominated like Wlad. Consistency and logevity is an integral part of being considered a great champion. Wlad was that even if he was not a good fighter to watch.
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No Contest
Lennox would have beat him at any point in his career. Bowe and Tyson would have to have been in their primes. Especially Tyson...talking late eighties Tyson.
Man. You must be some kind of busted up over last night, ya? All that loyalty down the drain as the Ukranian giant spent 36 minutes too scared to commit to anything for fear of getting blasted by a guy that can't really punch anyway.
Props to the hairy retard Fury, who at least had a game plan to jitterbug and feint Wlad into gun-shy mode. He's complete dogshit as a boxer, but what's that say about Wlad then?
I'll tell you, as I've been a fan of Vit and Wlad for years and years. But a reasonable fan. An honest fan. A fan that saw their shortcomings and admired what was genuine in them without stroking their balls and living in denial on these forums. Ahem.
Wlad has no idea what to do reaching in against a guy with any sort of movement now at 39 years old. Couple that with his instinctual need to clinch after pawing with anything and you had a recipe for disaster last night.
I knew after round 2 Wlad was fucked. He probably knew it around round 3. Tyson knew it about the same time. I loved Wlad at his best, and his brother even more. But I never understood your delusional nut-huggery when it came to the weaknesses and bullshit he put on display on more nights than I care to recall.
Hopefully you had a good cry into your cock-shaped pillow and can start to move past the worst of the pain. Time heals all, they say. A great run from Wlad against weak competition, and using dubious strategy, but the man had a great right hand and was a true professional and gentleman.
Time to see what the new batch of heavies has to offer. Go.... Joshua?
Re: Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
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denilson200
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
If a fighter who by even his OWN fans is considered rather limited in skills can beat Wladimir, just imagine what guys like Riddick Bowe/Mike Tyson/Lennox Lewis/Joe Louis/Evander Holyfield/George Foreman would do to that Klown of Kiev.
Wladimir Klinch-ko: EXPOSED! What we always suspected. Not even Top 15 ATG.
Riddick Bowe took a lot of stick of Andrew Golota, who stupidly fouled himself twice to get the DQ in two fights he should have won. I'd rate Wlad higher than Golata.
Lennox Lewis was lucky that Wlad's brother Vitali got cut in the sixth round to end their fight. Vitali was more than holding his own in that fight and who knows how that would have played out if Vitali had not got cut and Lewis did not fight again after that fight. I'd rate Wlad higher than Vitali.
Joe Louis would have been too small and would have been bounced round the ring.
Tyson ? Tyson never won a fight were he had to fight. He never won a fight were he had to bite down. He never won a nip and tuck dog fight. Every time a figher stood up to Tyson and hit back hard and went toe to toe with him, he lost. Tyson was a great on top fighter. The question is whether Wlad would be there after five rounds ? Maybe. Maybe Tyson would steam rolled him.
Foreman ? Foreman was slow and ponderous and maybe Wlad would have been able to catch him with the over hand right.
People always look back, at past heavy weights as if they were better.
In Ali's day, they looked back to Marciano's day. In Marciano's day, they looked back to Joe Louis days, In Joe Louis day, they looked back to Jack Dempsey's day. It never ends.
Wlad was second only to Joe Louis in having the longest reign for a heavyweight champ. Bowe. Lewis. Foreman's reign were over night in comparison. Golota never even won a world title. In 30 years time people will be saying Wlad was great.
I'm not saying Wlad would have beaten them all, he might well have lost to them all, but looking at the facts, it's not right to say they all would have for sure beaten him.
While I totally know what you mean about Tyson choking in big fights, etc. I still think those guys blow Wlad away, even Golota would blow him out, Golota was so versatile, Wlad is so 1-dimensional---look how Wlad was totally confuised after 4 rounds, when he couldnt get his jab working or land the right at all/find the distance, he had no Plan B. How is that a versatile ATG? No Plan B?? Seriously?
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Tyson did not choke in big fights. Ruddock gave him hell and Tyson had to take bombs but he still won.
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Master
Tyson did not choke in big fights. Ruddock gave him hell and Tyson had to take bombs but he still won.
@Master I agree.... I had thought of his wars with Razor, Tyson really buckled down hard in that fight, took bombs, took shots that woud KO most fighters, i was just trying to find something to agree with Denilson about before I disagreed with him. :):D;D
Re: Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
Hold On Doggie !!!
Wlad is 39 1/2 years old.
No 'old' {39 1/2 year-old} Mike Tyson or Riddick 'The Dog' Bowe are beating Wlad.
Lennox Lewis > That is a different story.
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Bill Paxtom
Hold On Doggie !!!
Wlad is 39 1/2 years old.
No 'old' {39 1/2 year-old} Mike Tyson or Riddick 'The Dog' Bowe are beating Wlad.
Lennox Lewis > That is a different story.
Read the post Bill, prime Tyson was early 20's.
Re: Imagine what Riddick Bowe/Lennox/Iron Mike would do to Wladimir!
A prime and angry Mike Tyson would make Wladimir soil his shorts within the first two rounds.
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TitoFan
A prime and angry Mike Tyson would make Wladimir soil his shorts within the first two rounds.
Ukrainian Diarrhea all over the canvass, his corner would throw in the 'diaper' in Round 2
