So and so sent this
https://youtu.be/HlIvfrN7Jg0?si=uXOJgR7GkojlyjjZ
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So and so sent this
https://youtu.be/HlIvfrN7Jg0?si=uXOJgR7GkojlyjjZ
And this is what is happening if you want to see real life
https://youtu.be/_xC1rSDe64I?si=O0ffbYhM8UpVxU7I
Israeli dragged out of his tank
***Israeli dragged out of his tank
https://youtube.com/shorts/Dhz1kqrxS...ma3OTZ1v5imHHO
Needless to say all of this stuff is horrific. It would be fantastic if all of these fuckers get blown to bits and all the hostages saved.
But it isn't happening in a vacuum. Every week in the West Bank Palestinians are burnt alive in their own homes, dragged out of them and shot and so on by settlers. The Israeli authorities let them get on with it. Israel has thrown the Palestinians off their land and they now reside in 22% of historic Palestine and Israel have spent the last half century occupying the 22% and building all over it to the point that the Palestinians now control about 16% of the 22%. Oh and back in 1948 Israel murdered 750k+ Palestinians, anybody of any note, doctors, lawyers, teachers community leaders etc when they ethnically cleansed them into the 22%. And this is ongoing daily and never gets coverage in the west and the west supports the murderous repressive occupiers. And people in the west wonder to themselves why are these Palestinian people so violent and angry.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-ye...medium=twitter
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy"
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/statu...29340804186619
https://www.newsweek.com/netanyahu-h...attack-1832963
Israel started trying to make Hamas powerful versus the PLO in the eighties. They've been at it a long time.
Now here's the United States sending two aircraft carriers. Somebody tell me why two aircraft carriers are necessary to deal with the Palestinians
1.1 million people have 24 hours to get out of town.....hmmmm....yeah seems feasible
Gaza it's me moaty...
https://youtu.be/exUeea4FhQE?si=tIRpEUQzo729CgPv
Wait that's not right.
Comedy gold there 😂😂😂 so I take it he knew Raoul from Newcastle?Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Educate yourselves and do not believe the United States or the United Kingdom
https://youtu.be/OYV-iB4UdBI?si=4krqonT0bJ3MyOjS
Really crazy shit going on, I wonder what Beanz view on the conflict is from a British Jew standpoint ?
I am interested in all sides opinions.
Crazy world.
Here's my view straight and simple:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
1948 was a big mistake and the Balfour agreement was never fully implemented and since that time we have something called terrorism in the west which is really a downtrodden and subjugated people whose land was stolen and who have been abused and ignored and humiliated for 75 years fighting back against a monster with British and American aerospace Hi-Tech weaponry and aircraft and white phosphorus and depleted uranium.
This is not a war like some people in the UK and the US are calling it. A war is between two sovereign Nations. Palestine is not even a nation even though it should be and they don't even really have a military at least not anywhere near with the British and American backing that Israel has which receives hundreds of billions of US dollars per year. How is it a war when the subjugated and occupied people fight back against the occupiers? How is it war to fight back against apartheid?
Yes October 7th was brutal and vicious against innocent Israelis but let's take the $35,000-ft view and see the big picture that that was probably not even 1% of what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians over the past 75 years and although two wrongs don't make a right this conflict didn't just start on October 7th, and when the people like the Palestinians have nothing left to lose, and when the United Nations security council passes hundreds of resolutions against Israel to give back land and not build settlements etc etc etc and when the UK and the US are the only people in the world who veto those resolutions that all rules are out the window and all international law is illegitimate and the Palestinians have the right to strike back by any means necessary as Malcolm x said
As an Armenian whose family was 50% wiped out in 1915 in a genocide, I know what a genocide looks like and so should everybody else in Western Europe and the UK and the US, and what Israel is doing in Palestine is definitely a genocide. This has nothing to do with self-defense and also how can an Occupying Force have any moral high ground to claim to defend itself? And how can those downtrodden people who are occupied for 75 years be called terrorists when all they are doing is fighting the occupation after getting zero support from the UN security council resolutions not being enforced thanks to the US and the UK vetoing them for the past 50 years?
The brainwashing in the UK and in the US and in Western Europe is mind boggling.
Oh God please Grant the Palestinians a victory over the zionists who every Orthodox Jew knows do not represent the real Judaism. Zionism is apartheid and a huge mistake and is expressly forbidden in the Torah according to every Orthodox Jewish rabbi I have ever spoken to or heard explain it in countless videos
https://youtu.be/f1CcnlzESvs?si=FP5gYEOBlyLKE7af
No white person is allowed to have a different opinion than this Orthodox Jewish rabbi.
No white person is allowed to have a different opinion than this and for that matter no non-jew is allowed to have a different opinion than this
https://youtu.be/rptFD3mlI5E?si=2VnwueKt9q8uyfr7
I pity the ordinary civilians who are suffering.
The truth spoken by an Orthodox Jewish rabbi
https://youtu.be/7S17Fr8z_Oo?si=mX67ginbARjG9Vs0
[12/11, 2:06 PM] 551-358-3890: 🤣🤣🤣 Barbara Woodward
[12/11, 2:08 PM] 551-358-3890: 🤣🤣🤣 Robert Wood
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I don't know how many times we need to see mechanized armed to the teeth forces enter a territory and turn civilians into next gen recruits to know how this repeats. Again. And again.
But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.
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Originally Posted by greynotsooldBut they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.
I've refrained from posting here on account of it being a sensitive subject and all. But I'm glad to see a little bit of argument for the other side.
"But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack."
Precisely. What seems to get lost in all of this was the initial attack.
And isn't it always the same...
1. Terrorists attack country, using neighboring country as base.
2. Terrorists then hide among the populace, knowing any counterattack is certain to cause civilian casualties and global condemnation.
3. Creative terrorists are even capable of killing/destroying targets within neighboring country... then pointing an accusatory finger at the counter attackers.
4. War drags on... global horrification turns into pressure on counter attackers to establish ceasefires... terrorists regroup and plan further attacks.
5. Rinse and repeat.
I, as everyone else with a pulse, feel horrible about the civilian casualties and crumbling infrastructure inside Gaza.
But knowing what should be blatantly clear by now... how the FUCK does a territory like Gaza allow a terrorist group like Hamas to launch an attack that everybody knows full well what the repercussions are going to be.
Gazans can't do anything about it, you say. Fine. How about the neighboring Arab countries, which stand to lose in a full-fledged conflict such as this, what with the hundreds of thousands of refugees that will look to flood their borders?
All I know is this: Israel and its Arab neighbors have been at it since many, many decades ago. World leaders, including U.S. Presidents, have come and gone, trying unsuccessfully to create some sort of lasting peace in the Middle East. Sure... Arabs and Israelis will never like or trust each other.
But damn it. Arab countries are well aware of the existence of these radical, terrorist groups whose only mission in life is the extermination of Israel. Well... since that ain't gonna happen... might as well live with that fact, and continue working together as best you can.
One thing's for certain. Every time some Hamas or Hezbollah group decides to launch an attack on Israel and then hide in a neighboring country... Israel is going to go looking for them... and some schools, hospitals, and innocent civilians are going to be blown up. Either by weary, trigger-happy Israelis... or by clever terrorists, looking to pin the blame on Israel.
A schoolyard fight on a deadly, global scale.
Tactically as far as very just and expected retaliation and operations, it's destined to fail and backfire. We've seen and executed the same tactics into civilian populations over and over and over and seen thousands lost of our own blood and treasure only to kick the can down the road. Unless of course the unstated end game is to turn the entire territory into a literal parking lot and willingly write the civilian population off as collateral damage and /or willing combatants. Man women and child. Have to think that an Israeli government order of extermination of what ? 5,6 million people would be a very raw nerve given history and region. Given the proximity and constant clashes I'm surprised they do not have operators and intel prior to the savagery of Oct 7th that. Spies or saboteurs or whatever trying to get inside of Hamas and kneecap leadership from within. As usual the U.S is also answerable for much and tbh once again we keep our big fat toe stirring the Mideast. I mean shit doesn't Qatar fund Hamas ? yet we keep multiple bases there turning a blind eye. All to maintain our boot print and forward operations. Not to mention keeping the arms industry thriving for all. It really is a shit show and we revisit it every half dozen year.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldBut they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.
@Master @Spicoli I accidentally hit dislike for the above post when I meant to like it because I totally agree with spicoli. I'm riding on a bus which is bouncing around a lot and using my Android and I hit dislike instead of like.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliTactically as far as very just and expected retaliation and operations, it's destined to fail and backfire. We've seen and executed the same tactics into civilian populations over and over and over and seen thousands lost of our own blood and treasure only to kick the can down the road. Unless of course the unstated end game is to turn the entire territory into a literal parking lot and willingly write the civilian population off as collateral damage and /or willing combatants. Man women and child. Have to think that an Israeli government order of extermination of what ? 5,6 million people would be a very raw nerve given history and region. Given the proximity and constant clashes I'm surprised they do not have operators and intel prior to the savagery of Oct 7th that. Spies or saboteurs or whatever trying to get inside of Hamas and kneecap leadership from within. As usual the U.S is also answerable for much and tbh once again we keep our big fat toe stirring the Mideast. I mean shit doesn't Qatar fund Hamas ? yet we keep multiple bases there turning a blind eye. All to maintain our boot print and forward operations. Not to mention keeping the arms industry thriving for all. It really is a shit show and we revisit it every half dozen year.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldBut they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.
In 1948 the land was stolen in an unfair manner and since that day 75 years ago the Israelis have been subjugating and brutalizing and arresting and killing and stealing more and more land through illegal settlements against the Palestinians without any help from the international community or without any enforcement of un security council resolutions that demand for the last 50 years that Israel give back so much land and dismantle the settlements but instead the United States keeps vetoing that resolution which comes up twice a year since 1967 and there was no international legitimacy of law enforcement and then when you have a violent backlash like what happened on October 7th everyone wants to whine but this has been going on since 1948 and what happened on October 7th is not even 1% of what the Palestinians have suffered at the hands of the Israelis since 1948 so don't talk about October 7th it started 75 years ago
How can an illegal occupier who is administering and apartheid state have the right to defend itself? It makes no sense but most everybody in the west is brainwashed
Do not worry about it. Accidently dislike a post can easily happen. Spicoli will not hold it against you.
No worries there Brock ;). Speaking mainly to the tactics is all. No matter a "side" chosen, there's zero justification for the direct targeting and butchery of men women and children that happened on Oct 7th.
For Israel this is a feature not a bug. As long as Hamas or somebody equally gruesome is running things in at least part of the Palestinian territories Israel can say quite correctly that they have no partner for peace and it allows them not to have to take part in any peace process. They can get on with building all over the West Bank undisturbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Another fantastic thing to come out of the current blowup for Israel is the raised salience of the issue in the west and in particular America. The combination of lots of Muslim immigrants swelling the numbers taking part in marches and lefties doing stupid stuff on campuses and elsewhere has created in polarised America a conservative backlash and given the right, who are also chock full of anti semites, another issue to own the libs on by supporting Israel unconditionally. What this means in practice is that should Trump win next year Israel will have carte blanche to do anything they want whether that's mass expulsion of Palestinians across the Jordan river or out through Gaza into Egypt or both. They can leave Gaza uninhabitable, cut off electricity or water or both, whatever they want.
Hamas aren't some small group hiding in a sea of people who don't like them. They're by far the most popular group in Gaza and the West Bank:Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldBut they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.
I've refrained from posting here on account of it being a sensitive subject and all. But I'm glad to see a little bit of argument for the other side.
"But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack."
Precisely. What seems to get lost in all of this was the initial attack.
And isn't it always the same...
1. Terrorists attack country, using neighboring country as base.
2. Terrorists then hide among the populace, knowing any counterattack is certain to cause civilian casualties and global condemnation.
3. Creative terrorists are even capable of killing/destroying targets within neighboring country... then pointing an accusatory finger at the counter attackers.
4. War drags on... global horrification turns into pressure on counter attackers to establish ceasefires... terrorists regroup and plan further attacks.
5. Rinse and repeat.
I, as everyone else with a pulse, feel horrible about the civilian casualties and crumbling infrastructure inside Gaza.
But knowing what should be blatantly clear by now... how the FUCK does a territory like Gaza allow a terrorist group like Hamas to launch an attack that everybody knows full well what the repercussions are going to be.
Gazans can't do anything about it, you say. Fine. How about the neighboring Arab countries, which stand to lose in a full-fledged conflict such as this, what with the hundreds of thousands of refugees that will look to flood their borders?
All I know is this: Israel and its Arab neighbors have been at it since many, many decades ago. World leaders, including U.S. Presidents, have come and gone, trying unsuccessfully to create some sort of lasting peace in the Middle East. Sure... Arabs and Israelis will never like or trust each other.
But damn it. Arab countries are well aware of the existence of these radical, terrorist groups whose only mission in life is the extermination of Israel. Well... since that ain't gonna happen... might as well live with that fact, and continue working together as best you can.
One thing's for certain. Every time some Hamas or Hezbollah group decides to launch an attack on Israel and then hide in a neighboring country... Israel is going to go looking for them... and some schools, hospitals, and innocent civilians are going to be blown up. Either by weary, trigger-happy Israelis... or by clever terrorists, looking to pin the blame on Israel.
A schoolyard fight on a deadly, global scale.
Despite the devastation caused by the new war, support for Hamas had risen in Gaza and more than tripled in the West Bank. Fifty-two percent of Gazans and 85% of West Bank respondents - or 72% of Palestinian respondents overall - voiced satisfaction with the role of Hamas in the war.
Just 10% of the poll’s 1,712 respondents said they had seen evidence that Hamas committed war crimes during the 7 October attack, despite the fact that extreme violence towards Israeli civilians has been well documented by the international media.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...october-attack
The last time there was an election in the palestinian territories Hamas won in Gaza and the West Bank.
No neighbouring country wants to get involved with Gaza. What are they going to do exactly? The same as Israel but with less discriminate/accurate weapons and with no chance of anything resembling success.
Israel and the Palestinians both want a state from the river to the sea. Only one of them has any chance of success and the conditions needed for them to achieve it are all rapidly falling into place.
Israel is crumbling as we speak and they will never be able to defeat Hamas and once Hezbollah gets involved a little bit more in this war, Israel will be totally crushed.
States and Israel and the UK are all finished
Where was France and the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, the evil UK, the satanic US who are supposedly bastions and champions of human rights and inalienable rights on this ongoing genocide by Israel against the Palestinians? Just a bunch of Western colonial compromised cowards, WHO CANNOT BEAR TO SEE SOUTH AFRICA TAKING A LEADING ROLE IN THIS PROSECUTION
https://youtu.be/5ufbfFTi38A?si=s9OTD2GQw3B1eJbx
https://youtu.be/U_l2U7zYSGM?si=SOdkrHck7ul4feIY
*ISRAEL AND THE UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES ARE ALL GUILTY OF GENOCIDE AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS*
"never again" didn't just mean never again for the Jews.
It means never again for ANYONE
Fucking delusional beyond belief
Within 1 minute of today's closing arguments in the ICJ, Israel accused South Africa of being the legal arm of Hamas and then accused the ICJ itself of being "anti semitic". What a default bullshit position. I think the world can see they are their own worst enemy and fucking talk about a self fulfilling prophecy ❗ 75 years after "getting" (cough, cough) their own country, they have made it so that the whole world (minus the UK and US LMFAO) is lined up against them so they can cry "anti semitism" again. You cannot make this up.
Rishi Sunak the lapdog of Biden, UK the lapdog of satanic America, and Germany the Vassal State of USA
https://youtu.be/DxF_t3rPWrQ?si=A-GPBocrDBjTDAYK