Rematch clause.
Surely Wilder has to exercise it end of summer.
Same thing happens again or does Wilder go down a different route?
AJ and WILDER missed out on mega paydays but Fury ducked no one.
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Rematch clause.
Surely Wilder has to exercise it end of summer.
Same thing happens again or does Wilder go down a different route?
AJ and WILDER missed out on mega paydays but Fury ducked no one.
I want to see it, but he needs to fix his ear and leg first. He has to come in 100% and smash Fury down and I think he has it in him.
His corner were awful.
No advice..nothing.
Wilder didnt look like he had anything after he got hit in the ear, be interesting to see what the injury is.
Let fury Joshua happen first then fury wants one more and out.
Wilders only chance is the right hand let's face it.
no need
There is no need for a 3rd match. Fury has out boxed Wilder in the first fight and now beat up him up in the rematch. The only reason for the 3rd fight is to earn big money whilst waiting for AJ.
If Fury was outboxing Wilder and Wilder landed one big punch and ended it then yeah give Fury the chance in a third fight to get the win
If Fury outboxed Wilder for 12 rounds and got the win they yeah give Wilder the chance in a third fight to land that big right hand and get the win
Fury comprehensively beat Wilder, not only outboxed him but outpunched and stopped him as well, the questions have been answered for the fans, no need to do it again, if they have a 3rd they may as well have a 4th and 5th
Joshua and wilder missed their window. Serves them both right for what would have been a huge payday
One thing that might happen before a rematch:
Mark Breland is fired.
He may have made the 100% right call, am thinking his main trainer and wilder wont accept that.
I wouldnt be surprised if wilder has a long think about it and the rematch clause is not activated. He has enough attributes to win another version of the title
I don't see the point in Wilder 3, at least not immediately
Fury has proved beyond doubt that he is better than Wilder.
He took the first fight when he wasn't ready, got off the floor twice and still beat Wilder, despite not getting the decision.
He dominated Wilder in the rematch and the corner were right to throw in the towel as Deontay was struggling well before that.
A third fight will prove nothing.
I'd like to see Fury V Joshua by the end of the year for all the trinkets.
It's about time we had an undisputed HW champion.
I'd imagine most of the media pundits went for Wilder to win by KO.
Based on what actually happened, a rematch may not be attractive right now.
2 things.
1. What will Wilder do differently?
2. Wilder is 35 years old.
IF he continues, the rematch is his only choice. He might think of it as his pension fight, 40% of the purse already agreed and ride off into the sunset.
If Hearn tempts Fury (if they want it.) then Wilder is done. He’s too old to wait around and he’s not gonna earn his way up beating contenders.
There is a possible curve ball. Hearn may offer Wilder a big money fight with Joshua.
They could still market it into big money (Wilder wasn’t his best, the ear made all the difference, his baddie ankle, blah, blah.) bullshit sells.
Why would Hearn do this?
1. To stop AJ being on the periphery and stay relevant.
2. Because they fancy the job.
3. Because they don’t fancy the Fury job. So it puts Fury on the periphery and they hope that with idle time and frustration, Fury self destructs with his “bi-polar mental fragility.”
Wouldn’t surprise me if Hearn went for Wilder and you give some good reasons.
I don’t think AJ believes he can beat Fury. I’m not too sure he can beat a damaged Wilder as he gets caught too often but it’s the easier option if he wants to look like he wants to be considered elite level.
There is no way AJ will fight Wilder, there is nothing in it for Joshua. No title no honour in the win. AJ would have everything to lose.
Fury would tease AJ for taking the fight and he would be ridiculed for taking poor seconds.
Strange how one loss can be so devastating...bomb squad won’t be yelled for a long time.
Yep, of course he would. But in the meantime, who would Fury be fighting?
We all know Fury fights to the level of the guy he’s fighting. He’s not gonna take any risk for relatively shit money . That’s a fact, look at who he fought between Wilder 1 & 2.
And before you say “Wallin was a risk”, yeah we know that now, but never knew it then .
And it was only a risk because Fury clearly didn’t prepare well enough or was motivated enough.
Exactly that. He needs the elite level opponents and Joshua aside now who else is there? I know usyk is around and his highly skilled but not sure he's physically equipped to cope with Fury.
Listen to what Tarver says (don't think anyones posted this yet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBuBGdbVZjw
I think Wilder’s mentality will have him exercise the rematch clause. That being said, I don’t think there is a need at all for a third fight. That wasn’t just a loss the other night, Fury completely and comprehensively dismantled Wilder.
I don’t know how Wilder comes back at this point. He is still a murderous puncher, but he was completely ineffective backing up- that will be trouble for him going forward. Tyson has proven over two fights that he can beat Deontay in a multitude of ways, proving he is the superior fighter.
No need for a third fight, but I’m sure Wilder and his team will force one. Break d should be promoted to head trainer- that was a good time to stop that fight. Head trainer should be fired.
So what’s the deal any news on how bad Deontay was hurt
He had a cut inside his ear, the eardrum wasn't damaged. His leg is a bullshit excuse. He's going to take the third fight with Fury because it's another massive payday but he already knows he's going to lose. Where he goes from the next loss is open to question, how keen will be be to go back to the drawing board at nearly 35 and with tens of millions of dollars in the bank?:cwm20::cwm20::cwm20:
Antonio Tarver was bang on the money. But why has it taken so long for everyone to come to this conclusion?
I’m amazed how overboard people go nowadays. 3 day’s ago, Wilder was “the biggest puncher in the history of Heavyweight Boxing!” :rolleyes:
How the tide has turned.. Check out the volume on this punch from ringside https://twitter.com/i/status/1231473875030024193
Any 3rd fight is a danger to Wilder's career and future health. There is no way he can beat Tyson Fury, he's simply too big. I thought the extra weight would nullify Fury a little, instead he just sliced and diced Wilder and pushed him around the ring hitting him at will. It was an imposing and lopsided fight, there should be no 3rd fight. But i supect there will be and it could be Wilder's last.
Are you seriously just a wind up merchant? Keeping threads going on what amounted to a no contest? As my starting thread over a week ago Wilder can't box, Fury can. Point now proven emphatically. 7 rounds, 3 judges 21 available, Wilder won 1! He is about as useful as Conor McPaddy against Floyd, another humiliation.
Happy to win my betting money, would be happy to see a trilogy, lets face it they've worked hard to hype it and good luck payday wise. Joshua is so slow he should avoid the pair of them.
The first fight was 8-4 to Fury with Fury knocked down twice. Almost knocked out. But yes, I think Fury was the better boxer.
This fight was one sided, but only properly one sided from the 3rd and there are question marks due to equilibrium issues. Now, I understand many will disagree, but that is my stance and I have never denied that Fury won it convincingly and I have said he deserves credit. He was the better boxer.
In saying that though, there is a rematch clause and if Wilder believes he was not 100%, then he has the right to accept less money and make the fight happen again. I just don't have an objection to that and applaud a man willing to face a challenge even if it could result in Wilder no longer being in the mix at the top. I have to respect him if he is willing to do that and I wouldn't rule out a 3rd or 4th knockdown from him either and Fury would be favorite.
Fury is the better boxer, no doubt about it, but boxing is not only about winning rounds as Wilder's career has shown.
yep. Bubble has well and truly been burst.
there will no no intimidation now. He's got no skills, he's old, he's just been knocked out by a perceived pillow puncher and his power bounced off a guy who'd been dropped by a cruiserweight.
The mental strength wilder needs going into a 3rd fury fight exceeds that of what Joshua needed to overcome his demons. Joshua was fighting a guy who had already been beaten by Parker and he was winning the fight before walking onto a punch. Wilder was not in the fight from the start vs fury and there is no blueprint for beating the gypsy king
Deontay Wilder officially triggers rematch clause as Bob Arum identifies potential dates for third fight
Bob Arum has revealed that Deontay Wilder has officially exercised his rematch clause to fight Tyson Fury for a third time.
The trilogy will take place in July before the Olympics, the Top Rank promoter has confirmed.
Fury ripped the WBC world heavyweight title from the American last week in devastating fashion with a seventh-round knockout.
But despite the damage done in the initial rematch, the Bronze Bomber will go straight into a third fight in his bid for redemption.
“Wilder’s representatives formally notified us last night that they have accepted the rematch,” Arum told Ringside Reporter Live
https://s.yimg.com/it/api/res/1.2/Pm...3bdc5a8b68bf4a
“It’s going to happen in the summer before the Olympics.”
Arum admitted he was unsure as to whether Wilder will have fully recovered by that point following the bruising, two-knockdown defeat, which saw him suffer a badly-cut ear and lip.
The Olympics in Tokyo are set to start on 24 July, meaning the weekend before on Saturday 18 July is the latest the fight will occur according to Arum’s schedule.
In the aftermath of the fight, Wilder listed off a series of excuses for his loss, primarily his ring walk costume, which he claims weighed 40 pounds and sapped energy from his legs.
“I had no legs,” Wilder said. “I’m surprised I went that long.
“I had no legs, and I knew I was in for a fight with these legs and the condition I was in. It was crazy. But, you know, again, it’s nobody’s fault but mine.
“I wore the costume that was that heavy, and I paid the price. I traded the tribute to men and women [for] my title, and you know, as a warrior, I was gonna fight.
“My job was to fight under any circumstances, as a king, and that’s what I did. And I don’t take nothing back.”
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/deo...101400577.html
Anyone who wants Deontay to fight a third fight after seeing that is a cold heartless SOB, and I include his team in that. The guy was bleeding from the mouth and ear and will be psychologically crushed and Fury will be the overwhelming favorite in a third fight. It's borderline dangerous. Boxing is risky enough as it is, Deontay apparently made a load of money from this fight and risking your health is not worth if for a few more mil. I think PBC wants a cash out
A fully fit Tyson Fury was the first elite level opponent Wilder had faced in over 40 fights, and we saw what happened. He doesn't really belong at that level, and he never will.
But boxing is a business. So he's gonna want to take the 3rd fight. He just made 28 million & that doesn’t include the 50% of all other revenue yet. He will get 40% guaranteed for the 3rd fight. When is he going to make 20-30 million again if he doesn’t take it ? I don’t think he would really care if he lost again. Would you ?
Taking the immediate rematch secures his family, especially when Arum is saying if he doesn’t take it, the opportunity may not be there to fight Fury again. IMO if he feels like he still has something to prove then he needs to rebuild, which will be the biggest rebuilding job ever but that's the only sensible option. Fire trainers and management or at least hire an Abel Sanchez type trainer who'd help work on inside fight game uppercuts.
But although I feel he'll sign for the fight, I still think the fight won't happen. In fact I'll be amazed if it happens. A way will be worked out behind the scenes for it not to happen and for Wilder to save face.
Question re the trilogy fight.
Been thinking about this and have no problem at all really with Wilder wanting a rematch if it's a clause in contract. He was champion and he will want to correct that blemish on his record - and let's face it if he doesn't take it now he may never get it. Do I want to see it ? No as I don't believe Wilder can do anything differently and his right hand and a lapse of concentration by Fury is his only chance.
The draw the year before is what mars this one. Wilder was outclassed for the most part and landed his bomb in round 12 to get out of jail and steal the draw. They've fought 19 rounds and Wilder has been second best in 15-16 of them.
So I'm guessing this last fight was the start of a brand new title challenge with the same terms. Wilder didn't have to give Fury another shot ? Had they fought each other immediately again without going off and fighting others would there have been a rematch clause still ?
I'm wondering now why Holyfield never fought Lewis again back in the day after a draw and defeat.
I don't really know what I'm asking, maybe just ranting.
Guess I think after a draw and comprehensive defeat Wilder shouldn't be entitled to that clause.
Bye
Lewis should have got the decision against Holyfield in their first but the second was closer and warranted a 3rd fight.
Wilder may never get a chance for the rematch so has to trigger this clause.
I hope Fury destroys Wilder quicker and can set up the fight with AJ.
If by some miracle Wilder does win, we then have to have a 4th fight!