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Floyd: The $8m Chicken
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Floyd, The $8 Million Dollar Chicken!
By Scoop Malinowski
WARNING! What you are about to read may shock and astonish you and may completely defy conventional logic. But the evidence is overwhelming...
Antonio Margarito has turned the mighty Floyd Mayweather into the $8 Million Chicken.
The threatening presence of Antonio Margarito has intimidated and paralyzed Floyd Mayweather with such fear that he is unable to sign his John Hancock to a lucrative fight contract from Top Rank and Bob Arum that promises to pay $8 million
Sounds almost impossible to believe? Yeah, I know. But so did the idea of Antonio Tarver KOing Roy Jones with one punch. Let's start this story about Margarito and Mayweather from the beginning.
As you may remember, Floyd told us over and over that Antonio Margarito was just "average", too slow, that he didn't "bring shit to the table." Floyd tried to have us believe that he'd fearlessly fight anyone from 154 on down, if the money was right. If it makes dollars it makes sense. Floyd Mayweather don't duck or dodge nobody. Blah, blah, blah.
Well now it turns out it was all a bunch of lies. Floyd Mayweather wants nothing to do with getting in the ring with "average" Antonio Margarito.
Floyd self-proclaimed a lot of things over the last few years. Indeed he is a very good fighter, a beautiful fighter, when properly matched. But he's not the pound-for-pound best fighter today. And by ducking Antonio Margarito he can't even be called the best welterweight.
Clearly, Antonio Margarito has intimidated Floyd and, to a degree, exposed something we will probably learn later. That's what you have to conclude by the astonishing fact that Floyd Mayweather has thus far refused to sign an $8 million dollar (plus upside) to fight Antonio Margarito on August 12.
I have a sense it's inevitable that Floyd will never sign to fight Margarito and will avoid him at all costs to his professional reputation. Floyd is not acting at all like the masterclass champions of the past, like Bernard Hopkins, Lennox Lewis, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Salvador Sanchez, Felix Trinidad. Those inspiring heroes never ducked anyone.
The greatest champions in history don't run or hide from dangerous challenges. They were confidently willing to fight any other boxer, however dangerous they might be. And for a whole lot less than $8 million. Because they had the courage and the confidence in their ability to beat ANYONE.
We have learned that Floyd Mayweather may have all the talent in the world but not the equivalent confidence. Until he signs the contract, if he signs the contract, Floyd Mayweather is exhibiting that he isn't sure if he can beat Antonio Margarito. Heck, he might even secretly believe he'd get knocked out in utter humiliation, like Roy Jones did against Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson. Not even the sum of $8 million - win, lose, draw or lose by first-round knockout - could lure Mayweather into the ring with Margarito.
Wow. It's shocking. Would Barry Bonds take himself out of the lineup in Game 7 of the World Series because he was afraid to face Randy Johnson or Bartolo Colon or Mariano Rivera? Never. Would Tiger Woods skip the Masters for fear of losing to Vijay Singh or Phil Mickelson? Never. Would Roger Federer avoid Wimbledon out of fear of playing Rafael Nadal or Andy Roddick? Never. Would Tony Steward duck the Daytona 500 because he was scared to lose to Jimmie Johnson? Never.
Did Michael Jordan every cry to come out of the NBA Finals because he was getting triple-teamed? Never. Did Joe Montana ever ask out of the fourth quarter because Lawrence Taylor could not be blocked? Never.
Yet, the so-called self-proclaimed best man in our sport is avoiding an $8 million contract to fight Antonio Margarito. Damn, Antonio Margarito must be some great, formidable champion to have instilled such caution, hesitation, reluctance and/or out and out, stone cold fear in such a universally revered fighter as Floyd Mayweather.
There is the slim possibility that Mayweather could be intentionally waiting to see what happens with Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya in their next fights in May. But I don't buy that school of thinking. If Hatton defeats Collazo and Oscar takes care of Mayorga, they are going to demand at least 50-50 and those negotiations with Floyd could be very difficult. Floyd, of course, wants all the money and Hatton and Oscar ain't gonna give it to him. Those attractive fights are not going to be easy to make.
But the negotiations for Margarito vs. Mayweather were easy and over with. Margarito is on board. And Floyd has a contract in his hand for his biggest career payday.
There's only one conclusion to be drawn...Antonio Margarito has frightened Floyd. He's intimidated Floyd. And he's psyched out Floyd. Floyd likes to pick his own opponents, like the predator. But this time Margarito has picked him out. Margarito is the hunter, and Floyd sees the hunger and confidence and tiger in his eyes. Floyd is worried. He is unsure.
All the dazzling handspeed, sublime skills and masterful artistry of Mayweather is counterfeit and useless if the mind behind it lacks the confidence to execute and compete against Antonio Margarito.
It's a shame too that a respected champion like Mayweather - who got his opportunity at greatness many years ago - does not have the same generosity and class and respect to give Margarito his shot at fame and fortune. The glory hog wants to hide Margarito from boxing fans so he can have more adulation, more spotlight, more ego stroking, more safe fights and more riches for himself. Floyd is cheating Margarito out of the same big fight opportunity he was so fortunate to receive.
Regardless, the underlying truth of the matter can't be denied. This intriguing situation has actually produced boxing's newest superstar. Sure, Floyd will still be considered a very good, great fighter after all this fades. And so too Antonio Margarito must now be looked at in a similar light. Antonio Margarito is the new Mexican superstar of the sport, following the tradition set by Julio Cesar Chavez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Humberto Gonzalez, Pipino Cuevas, Ruben Olivares, etc.
Antonio Margarito became a superstar for this reason: Because he conquered and silenced Floyd Mayweather without even having to throw a single punch. And that is an amazing accomplishment.
Not even $8 million could make Floyd get in the ring with Antonio Margarito.
Some people may criticize a writer who calls a great fighter like Mayweather a chicken. But I look at it this way. Floyd did a lot of talking, said a lot of negative things about Margarito and he said he would fight him if the money was right. Well, the money is right. And it's time to put up or shut up. If Floyd ducks Margarito he has been proven a liar. Lying should not be tolerated in any shape or form.
Think back to the old movie 'King Kong vs. Godzilla.' Remember their first fight when Godzilla defeated Kong with his fire breath and Kong turned his back and walked away? That skinny little pipsqueak spectacle-wearing Japanese guy who sponsored Kong called Kong "a chicken."
And it was comical to see. But the Japanese geek calling the mighty King Kong a chicken was the truth. King Kong was a chicken in that moment. And it sounds and reads ridiculous these words I write, but it's true, Margarito has made a chicken out of Mayweather.
And King Kong didn't get paid $8 million to fight Godzilla and he sure as hell never called him "average", "mediocre" or anything else derogatory.
Until Mayweather signs that contract he's the $8 Million Dollar Chicken.
And you better believe that everyone in boxing will know it. Including Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton.
One more point: Oscar De La Hoya said last week that he didn't understand why everybody was pushing Floyd to fight Margarito. Well, Oscar knows damn well this is the fight Bob Arum is trying to make, that many Mexican fans want to see. And we know Oscar is not exactly on the best of terms right now with his former promoter. And Oscar could be using his high status to try to protect Floyd here and sabotage Arum's plans. Who knows, maybe Oscar sees something scary in Margarito too and would like to also keep him out of the picture.
But the fact of the matter is Floyd has said on the record many times that Margarito was average, that he never ducks and dodges anybody and that he'd fight him if Arum showed him the money.
Oscar should understand that Floyd is being held to his own words. Floyd's mouth got him into this mess, now his talent and fists have to get him out.
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
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Holy shit talk about jumping to conclusions! Let's think about this for a second. First off, how does not signing a contract equate to fear? I mean, who is the guy EVERYONE has wanted Floyd to fight for the past year? Ricky Hatton. Is it so hard to beleive that Floyd is just leabing his options open for Hatton? I mean $8,000,000 aside, Margarito - Mayweather is not a superfight. It's just not. It is a very good PPV buy because it will receive a lot of mexican buys but it won't go down as a superfight. Hatton-Mayweather is a legitimate blockbuster and both fighters would get more then enough money for that. I mean COME ON. Floyd has been wanting to fight Hatton all along and has already said he's aiming for him in August and a ODLH fight even longer. So why does anyone have the right to call Mayweather a coward just because some guy that the casual boxing fan really doesn't know about drops a lump of cash in his lap? Luis Collazo recently signed his name on 5 contracts and all any fighter; Hatton, Mayweather, Margarito, Judah and Cotto, had to do was sign there name on the other line and they would have like 4 million (or something like that) to fight Collazo. Does that mean that Hatton is the only real man out of the five? :o I guess this type of writing comes with the territory but I hate this stuff. That writer just trashed Mayweather as a fighter, and to some extent as a man, just because he didn't sign that contract ASAP.
Whatever, I just felt the whole article was plagued by blind hate.
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Margarito himself dosn't think he can beat Mayweather. He's just looking to get paid. Margarito has never faced anybody similar to Floyd. What makes him think he can win? Cuz he beat Cintron? Gomez? Come on man. It's stupidity for anybody to think Margarito has a chance. Corrales, Castillo, Chavez all do what Margarito does. They come in throwing punches. Mayweather beat them. He's seen Margarito style before. He knows what to do. When has Margarito seen anything close to Floyd's style? How will he handle it? He won't. He'll swing and miss for the first 3 rounds. By the the 5th he'll be frustruated. By the 7th he'll be getting pot shotted. By the 9th he'll be getting hit at will. In the 11th it'll get stopped.
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Holy S*** talk about jumping to conclusions! Let's think about this for a second. First off, how does not signing a contract equate to fear? I mean, who is the guy EVERYONE has wanted Floyd to fight for the past year? Ricky Hatton. Is it so hard to beleive that Floyd is just leabing his options open for Hatton? I mean $8,000,000 aside, Margarito - Mayweather is not a superfight. It's just not. It is a very good PPV buy because it will receive a lot of mexican buys but it won't go down as a superfight. Hatton-Mayweather is a legitimate blockbuster and both fighters would get more then enough money for that. I mean COME ON. Floyd has been wanting to fight Hatton all along and has already said he's aiming for him in August and a ODLH fight even longer. So why does anyone have the right to call Mayweather a coward just because some guy that the casual boxing fan really doesn't know about drops a lump of cash in his lap? Luis Collazo recently signed his name on 5 contracts and all any fighter; Hatton, Mayweather, Margarito, Judah and Cotto, had to do was sign there name on the other line and they would have like 4 million (or something like that) to fight Collazo. Does that mean that Hatton is the only real man out of the five? :o I guess this type of writing comes with the territory but I hate this stuff. That writer just trashed Mayweather as a fighter, and to some extent as a man, just because he didn't sign that contract ASAP.
Whatever, I just felt the whole article was plagued by blind hate.
This article is covered with hate, but it ain't blind. It's just impatient. Within two weeks we'll know if Mayweather wants to fight Margarito. But your blind on one perspective. While Floyd's options are open, it doesn't mean that Hatton or de la Hoya's are open also...
Both Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton are both busy with their own problems. One has the deal with a U.S debut, a young southpaw champion, the other a long lay-off, age, and a wild Nicaraguan. Both Hatton and de la Hoya have their own lives.
Margarito and Mayweather's schedule have BOTH opened up. The money is there, the venue, the place, the promoter, the channel (HB0), the hype, and the Mexicans. heheh
Why not take the fight?
Do you want Pretty Boy to save himself for the Golden Boy?
Save himself from a risk?
What are you Pretty Boy fans afraid of?
That he'll actually lose to the club fighter, Margarito?
He's just a club fighter, easy work for the great Mayweather. No skills, Mayweather will put a boxing clinic on the Tijuana Tornado. ;)
So just take the 8 PLUS million and go on to bigger and better things... like fame.
By the way, I don't expect Mayweather to sign the contract to fight Margarito that soon. Mayweather may take awhile to sign it, for legal and contractual reasons. But if he doesn't sign it, actions speak louder than words. Instead of the Pretty Boy, they should call him the Scarddy Boy. ;D
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Margarito himself dosn't think he can beat Mayweather. He's just looking to get paid. Margarito has never faced anybody similar to Floyd. What makes him think he can win? Cuz he beat Cintron? Gomez? Come on man. It's stupidity for anybody to think Margarito has a chance. Corrales, Castillo, Chavez all do what Margarito does. They come in throwing punches. Mayweather beat them. He's seen Margarito style before. He knows what to do. When has Margarito seen anything close to Floyd's style? How will he handle it? He won't. He'll swing and miss for the first 3 rounds. By the the 5th he'll be frustruated. By the 7th he'll be getting pot shotted. By the 9th he'll be getting hit at will. In the 11th it'll get stopped.
Then we agree. :) :) :)
This should be EASY MONEY for Floyd Mayweather. :) :) :)
"MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!!!"
I can't wait till Mayweather signs it, because it's like he's robbing Bob Arum, this fight is so easy!!!
So.... why isn't Floyd signing yet? ???
*Hopes he signs soon. ;D
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The article makes some sense to me $8+ million and the WBO title belt is a good payday when the venue and all is worked out.
What if Zab gets suspended and Hatton, Oscar and Winky lose? I guess there is always the Mosely/Vargas winner.
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Holy S*** talk about jumping to conclusions! Let's think about this for a second. First off, how does not signing a contract equate to fear? I mean, who is the guy EVERYONE has wanted Floyd to fight for the past year? Ricky Hatton. Is it so hard to beleive that Floyd is just leabing his options open for Hatton? I mean $8,000,000 aside, Margarito - Mayweather is not a superfight. It's just not. It is a very good PPV buy because it will receive a lot of mexican buys but it won't go down as a superfight. Hatton-Mayweather is a legitimate blockbuster and both fighters would get more then enough money for that. I mean COME ON. Floyd has been wanting to fight Hatton all along and has already said he's aiming for him in August and a ODLH fight even longer. So why does anyone have the right to call Mayweather a coward just because some guy that the casual boxing fan really doesn't know about drops a lump of cash in his lap? Luis Collazo recently signed his name on 5 contracts and all any fighter; Hatton, Mayweather, Margarito, Judah and Cotto, had to do was sign there name on the other line and they would have like 4 million (or something like that) to fight Collazo. Does that mean that Hatton is the only real man out of the five? :o I guess this type of writing comes with the territory but I hate this stuff. That writer just trashed Mayweather as a fighter, and to some extent as a man, just because he didn't sign that contract ASAP.
Whatever, I just felt the whole article was plagued by blind hate.
This article is covered with hate, but it ain't blind. It's just impatient. Within two weeks we'll know if Mayweather wants to fight Margarito. But your blind on one perspective. While Floyd's options are open, it doesn't mean that Hatton or de la Hoya's are open also...
Both Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton are both busy with their own problems. One has the deal with a U.S debut, a young southpaw champion, the other a long lay-off, age, and a wild Nicaraguan. Both Hatton and de la Hoya have their own lives.
Margarito and Mayweather's schedule have BOTH opened up. The money is there, the venue, the place, the promoter, the channel (HB0), the hype, and the Mexicans. heheh
Why not take the fight?
Do you want Pretty Boy to save himself for the Golden Boy?
Save himself from a risk?
What are you Pretty Boy fans afraid of?
That he'll actually lose to the club fighter, Margarito?
He's just a club fighter, easy work for the great Mayweather. No skills, Mayweather will put a boxing clinic on the Tijuana Tornado. ;)
So just take the 8 PLUS million and go on to bigger and better things... like fame.
By the way, I don't expect Mayweather to sign the contract to fight Margarito that soon. Mayweather may take awhile to sign it, for legal and contractual reasons. But if he doesn't sign it, actions speak louder than words. Instead of the Pretty Boy, they should call him the Scarddy Boy. ;D
I'm not afraid of anything (I'll cross that out. I just reread it, sounded very Baller27-esque :D) and I doubt Tony strikes fear in Floyd. Personally, I would LOVE to see this fight come off. I think Floyd would win going away but there are bigger and better things at 147 in Hatton. I would hate to see a fight with Oscar come off and would favor a Margarito fight any day of the week. However, once May 13 rolls around and Hatton wins (remember, my opinion) then the demand for a Hatton - PBF fight is going to be louder then ever. Why not leave his options open for just a month or two? I mean why is there a rush for Margarito. That's not the fight that has been hyped up since last June. Seriously, we don't even know the specifics of this contract yet and we're calling Floyd a coward for nt signing? That's ridiculous. Eventually, Margarito will get his shot. Personally, I would love to see him fight Judah because I think that would be a Margarito coming out party, something he hasn't had yet.
I'm just thinking in the big picture. I want PBF - Hatton as soon as possible and I don't want Floyd's hands to be tied once EVERYONE is calling for the fight (May 13 ;)). The Ring wasn't telling PBF to forget Judah and fight Margarito ;) After Hatton - PBF, THEN Margarito can get his shot. It's not like he doesn't have time. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he only 27?
All I'm trying to say is damn it Hatton - PBF has to come in 2006, and Margarito is getting in the way of that >:mad Let him fight Judah, solve the eternal debate between Star and Mick :) Mick wins easy haha
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[quote=Gyrokai ]
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Margarito himself dosn't think he can beat Mayweather. He's just looking to get paid. Margarito has never faced anybody similar to Floyd. What makes him think he can win? Cuz he beat Cintron? Gomez? Come on man. It's stupidity for anybody to think Margarito has a chance. Corrales, Castillo, Chavez all do what Margarito does. They come in throwing punches. Mayweather beat them. He's seen Margarito style before. He knows what to do. When has Margarito seen anything close to Floyd's style? How will he handle it? He won't. He'll swing and miss for the first 3 rounds. By the the 5th he'll be frustruated. By the 7th he'll be getting pot shotted. By the 9th he'll be getting hit at will. In the 11th it'll get stopped.
Then we agree. :) :) :)
This should be EASY MONEY for Floyd Mayweather. :) :) :)
"MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!!!"
I can't wait till Mayweather signs it, because it's like he's robbing Bob Arum, this fight is so easy!!!
So.... why isn't Floyd signing yet? ???
He'll sign. It's all ego with Floyd. He wants to do things when he wants to do things. But he'll sign and expose Margarito. People just need patience. Hell, he just fought this month. He's taking his time.
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He'll sign. It's all ego with Floyd. He wants to do things when he wants to do things. But he'll sign and expose Margarito. People just need patience. Hell, he just fought this month. He's taking his time.
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Holy S*** talk about jumping to conclusions! Let's think about this for a second. First off, how does not signing a contract equate to fear? I mean, who is the guy EVERYONE has wanted Floyd to fight for the past year? Ricky Hatton. Is it so hard to beleive that Floyd is just leabing his options open for Hatton? I mean $8,000,000 aside, Margarito - Mayweather is not a superfight. It's just not. It is a very good PPV buy because it will receive a lot of mexican buys but it won't go down as a superfight. Hatton-Mayweather is a legitimate blockbuster and both fighters would get more then enough money for that. I mean COME ON. Floyd has been wanting to fight Hatton all along and has already said he's aiming for him in August and a ODLH fight even longer. So why does anyone have the right to call Mayweather a coward just because some guy that the casual boxing fan really doesn't know about drops a lump of cash in his lap? Luis Collazo recently signed his name on 5 contracts and all any fighter; Hatton, Mayweather, Margarito, Judah and Cotto, had to do was sign there name on the other line and they would have like 4 million (or something like that) to fight Collazo. Does that mean that Hatton is the only real man out of the five? :o I guess this type of writing comes with the territory but I hate this stuff. That writer just trashed Mayweather as a fighter, and to some extent as a man, just because he didn't sign that contract ASAP.
Whatever, I just felt the whole article was plagued by blind hate.
This article is covered with hate, but it ain't blind. It's just impatient. Within two weeks we'll know if Mayweather wants to fight Margarito. But your blind on one perspective. While Floyd's options are open, it doesn't mean that Hatton or de la Hoya's are open also...
Both Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton are both busy with their own problems. One has the deal with a U.S debut, a young southpaw champion, the other a long lay-off, age, and a wild Nicaraguan. Both Hatton and de la Hoya have their own lives.
Margarito and Mayweather's schedule have BOTH opened up. The money is there, the venue, the place, the promoter, the channel (HB0), the hype, and the Mexicans. heheh
Why not take the fight?
Do you want Pretty Boy to save himself for the Golden Boy?
Save himself from a risk?
What are you Pretty Boy fans afraid of?
That he'll actually lose to the club fighter, Margarito?
He's just a club fighter, easy work for the great Mayweather. No skills, Mayweather will put a boxing clinic on the Tijuana Tornado. ;)
So just take the 8 PLUS million and go on to bigger and better things... like fame.
By the way, I don't expect Mayweather to sign the contract to fight Margarito that soon. Mayweather may take awhile to sign it, for legal and contractual reasons. But if he doesn't sign it, actions speak louder than words. Instead of the Pretty Boy, they should call him the Scarddy Boy. ;D
I'm not afraid of anything (I'll cross that out. I just reread it, sounded very Baller27-esque :D) and I doubt Tony strikes fear in Floyd. Personally, I would LOVE to see this fight come off. I think Floyd would win going away but there are bigger and better things at 147 in Hatton. I would hate to see a fight with Oscar come off and would favor a Margarito fight any day of the week. However, once May 13 rolls around and Hatton wins (remember, my opinion) then the demand for a Hatton - PBF fight is going to be louder then ever. Why not leave his options open for just a month or two? I mean why is there a rush for Margarito. That's not the fight that has been hyped up since last June. Seriously, we don't even know the specifics of this contract yet and we're calling Floyd a coward for nt signing? That's ridiculous. Eventually, Margarito will get his shot. Personally, I would love to see him fight Judah because I think that would be a Margarito coming out party, something he hasn't had yet.
I'm just thinking in the big picture. I want PBF - Hatton as soon as possible and I don't want Floyd's hands to be tied once EVERYONE is calling for the fight (May 13 ;)). The Ring wasn't telling PBF to forget Judah and fight Margarito ;) After Hatton - PBF, THEN Margarito can get his shot. It's not like he doesn't have time. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he only 27?
All I'm trying to say is damn it Hatton - PBF has to come in 2006, and Margarito is getting in the way of that >:mad Let him fight Judah, solve the eternal debate between Star and Mick :) Mick wins easy haha
Excellent point about Zab! I'm sure he could do with a payday after he gets fined and suspended. If he beat Tony then he would probably get a rematch with Floyd, if Tony won then he just made a name for himself with the casual fan.
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Floyd ain't scared to fight Margarito.
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
I'm not afraid of anything (I'll cross that out. I just reread it, sounded very Baller27-esque :D) and I doubt Tony strikes fear in Floyd. Personally, I would LOVE to see this fight come off. I think Floyd would win going away but there are bigger and better things at 147 in Hatton. I would hate to see a fight with Oscar come off and would favor a Margarito fight any day of the week. However, once May 13 rolls around and Hatton wins (remember, my opinion) then the demand for a Hatton - PBF fight is going to be louder then ever. Why not leave his options open for just a month or two? I mean why is there a rush for Margarito. That's not the fight that has been hyped up since last June. Seriously, we don't even know the specifics of this contract yet and we're calling Floyd a coward for nt signing? That's ridiculous. Eventually, Margarito will get his shot. Personally, I would love to see him fight Judah because I think that would be a Margarito coming out party, something he hasn't had yet.
I'm just thinking in the big picture. I want PBF - Hatton as soon as possible and I don't want Floyd's hands to be tied once EVERYONE is calling for the fight (May 13 ;)). THEN Margarito can get his shot. It's not like he doesn't have time. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he only 27?
I'd rather Mayweather fought Margarito now. And Hatton defend his WBA title once in America.
That way it'd be a much bigger fight. Outside of Manchester, Saddoboxing, and Die-Hard fans, Ricky Hatton isn't that famous.
I'm trying to be honest here!!! :D
That would lead to two Undefeated Fighters Unifying their Alphabet Belts, with both being MORE famous, because one defeated a Mexican fighter (Margarito) and the other is a White fighter (Ricky) who fights exciting! Boxer vs Brawler!
So Mayweather should take the "easy" Margarito fight and lead Floyd to build his name further. And Hatton to build his name with at least two fights here. It' be an easy fight to sell from there. And I think HBO wants it that way too. They signed Hatton in a 3 fight contract deal, one for Collazo, one probably one easy defense of the belt he may win from Collazo, and one for Mayweather.
But I'm afraid that Pretty Boy is waiting two weeks to ask for a Oscar "Olden Boy" de la Hoya fight. And fight that old geezer, rather than Ricky Hatton.
But the best we can do is wait. I'm patient, unlike this writer. Nobody would sign a fight contract that soon.
If Mayweather signs for Hatton, that's great. If he signs for Margarito, that's great too. For Oscar? I would rather he [Floyd] picked on someone his own age. I think HBO wants to wait a little bit longer with Hatton, so don't be surprised if Margarito is all Floyd has for an option.
Actions speak louder than words, I'm waiting for Mayweather's next move. 8)
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I like how the guy calling the current best P4P fighter has the name: SCOOP! hahaha
Also you are right PBF just Fin got done fighting, why the hell does he have to sign a contract like 2 weeks later with his hand still hurting haha. 8million is nice, but i heard he can get atleast 10million to fight ODLH. yes i admit to the REAL fight fan Tony vs PBF does mean more, but to a real fight fan who has FREE ringside seats id think id rather be sitting ringside for ODLH vs PBF and definitely RICKY SCHROEDER vs PBF hands down. but dont get me wrong TONY vs PBF is a much needed fight as well.
I guess SCOOP likes to call other people names cuz his own names is F'n SCOOP!!!!!!! ;D
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While the article jumps to conclusions to soon,it is correct in one thing,there will be abig big mystery if Floyd does not fight Tony,I mean Floyd fights for money and he is not going to get $8mill anywhere else! Granted he has time to sign the contract .
As for the other points I have seen,if Floyd is getting that much,Tony will not get alot and to whoever said it is about the money,seriously,Margarito will not earn anywhere that much,he just wants the exposure and to prove he is the best.
Second,Floyd is NOT waiting for the outcome of the Hatton fight as it will have no bearing,Hattonhas said he wants the 3 tune ups and Arum himself said that fight is not worth making right now.
Thirdly,Floyd is not waiting for Oscar becasue the chance of that fight happeneing are LOW,Arum would not allow it,Oscar keeps talking about Tito and I doubt he would share the money when he is the main attraction.
Also,after the Gomez fight,Mayweather who originally said Tony was average said he was quote "good",I remember Fischer mentioning it! Why the indifference?What has he got to lose,$8mill is more than anything he is going to get for any other fight right now and especially against this glorified club fighter who swings like an ocotopus.
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Second,Floyd is NOT waiting for the outcome of the Hatton fight as it will have no bearing,Hattonhas said he wants the 3 tune ups and Arum himself said that fight is not worth making right now.
Very good points but this is the one I would have agreed with a couple weeks ago but not anymore. After the PBF-Judah fight, Hatton's camp first came out and said that they think their fighter could take him. Then Hatton came out with the confrontation between him and Floyd at B-Hop - Taylor II (at least I think that was the fight) and said he wants Floyd. So I think Hatton is finally caving in and realizing this is his defining fight. And Arum is the one who put this offer out for the Margarito fight and made it public so I have a feeling he doesn't have Floyd very well under his thumb.
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
I see what you mean but the indifference from the Hatton camp raises questions,Hatton may not(should though!) get past Collazo AND aside from the places which Gyrokai mentioned,Hatton is not that popular. Granted all the Latinos will churn out to see Tony and not only that but Arum is shrewd,he knows if he invests in Tony now,it will pay off later as he has an attractive style which will excite fans meaning more $$$ for Arum whereas the Hatton fight does not have that same appeal YET to the ordinary man,therefore Arum will not invest as heavily in it,understand what I am trying to say?
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Also,don't forget,as Arum promotes both Floyd and Tony,it is an in house promotion therefore even more $$$$$.
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Re: Floyd: The $8m Chicken
:D
So much speculation. Makes sense, since Floyd is so unpredictable.
One thing is for sure, if Floyd gets paid less than 8 million in his next fight, then he's ducking Margarito.
And if he fights Oscar, it's a good choice, but not a pound-for-pound choice, in my opinion. He's old! He needs to fight fellow fighters in their prime also! Well, at least TheBESTP4P will be happy for that. ;) In a way, I don't blame you, because that will be Oscar's last big fight (If it isn't his showdown with Mayorga.). Mayweather to take an Oscar fight, if it's EVEN possible... I won't blame him, because of the loads of cash and fame he'll make. But I will criticize his opposition. Floyd, the fighter who picks on older fighters like Sharmba, Gatti, and Oscar.
Oh yeah, thanks, The Game, I remember now, Arum doesn't think the Hatton fight would sell yet.
(Blame Frank Warren for keeping him on the other side of the ocean for a long time. ;D
And by the way, Hatton wanted to fight in the States, even before his fight with Collazo, that's how bad*ss he is.)
A Ricky Hatton isn't afraid of anybody!
I just think that circumstances have it, that a Hatton fight will be forced to wait just a little bit. It isn't fair, because Hatton has proved himself already, but to America he's not famous yet. That is why he's going to invade the U.S.! That's why he's fighting here on U.S. soil! To make a name for himself here, and to make loads of cash. Like the Klitschko Brothers.
In the meantime, Margarito is waiting on a silver platter coated with diamonds.
I'm just trying to say,"Don't get all bent outta shape if Margarito reaches Mayweather first, because circumstances, fair or not fair, have it that Hatton needs to and can be built up here on U.S. soil."
Hatton has to wait. But if Hatton Mayweather happens, then great. But if Mayweather doesn't take that fight and fights for someone else for less than 8 million, then I am forced to say he is ducking Margarito. If he fights Oscar, then good for him.
And yes, Floyd can't be controlled. haha
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Alright. I'd rather see Hatton Mayweather before Margarito Mayweather!!! There I said it!
But I'm such a huge Margarito fan, that I'd absolutely love that too!
I'm so confused. ??? :-\ ;D
Both those fight's I'd drive to Vegas to see!
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I'd loooove to see Hatton Mayweather but as the situation stands right now,Arum is not interested in that therefore,and being a slightly bigger Tony fan than a Hatton fan, I want to see that first but hey,no reason why both cannot be made!
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Man fwook Margarito....this dude ain't shat..and he's running his mouth cause he wants to get paid...floyd has nothing to gain as far as his legacy goes by beating wack ass hyped up margarito....Hatton is the man....
Truth be told Floyd obviously doesn't need any fwooking money and fighting margarito is a lose/lose...because if most of the "real fans" on this board say
"i want to see FLoyd fight tony, I don't think tony would beat him, i just want to see the fight", that's fwooking stupid because right there is an example of how floyd wouldn't even be given credit for beating this dude...
It's like calzaghe just said of ROy Jones..."He's been knocked out 2 out 3 times, and if i beat him, then they'll say he's old but if he happens to have one good fight left then they'll write me off for that"..
Like floyd...if he beats this over-hyped contender, who ain't fought anybody...people will say "oh tony ain't have the same boxing experience as floyd" ....If tony, the bigger man by far happens to beat floyd then its "see I told you floyd wasn't that good"
PBF doesn't need this fwooking guy to legitimize his career or ability...floyd is already going to the hall of fame and margarito might wins some tickets if he keeps beating up guys from the tiajuanna bars...
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I gotta say that this is some funny ass shat right here.
I know that "writers" often consider themselves "journalists" but writers should know that a story is not a story until you have all basis covered.
Until Floyd has said no then this has no merit.
Now...my problem is this...either way...yes or no...Floyd is going to catch flack.
You tell me how Floyd is going to fight Hatton & Oscar & Margarito all in a year?
He can't. Floyd was talking Judah, Hatton, & Oscar last year...how the hell he gonna fit Margarito in?
I mean...I want him to tag Antonio's ass...but I don't see how he will take the risk with those two names out there.
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Margarito is trying to cash in without doing any work...didn't he just beat gomez...a dude with ten losses...and floyd doesn't get any credit for beating mitchell & judah...the more people talk about margarito the more i don't want floyd to take the fight..because unlike the other real fighters who let their fists do the promoting this guy has nothing but his wack-assed supporters talking about him....all he need to do is beat someone with a real name....anybody he could beat gatti, or baldomir, or mayorga..oops i forgot he can't handle the seven pounds...but he wants to come in around 10 pounds heavier than floyd.....
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Wack,come on man,you and I both know that the chances of Mayweather-De La Hoya are slim and getting slimmer slimmer:Arum,Oscar wanting Tito,the purse,just waaaay too many factors in the way. Second,you also know Hatton changes his mind every fight:I thought it was supposed to be Collazo,Gattin and then either Floyd or 1 more tune up?
Finally,you are incorrect in saying that Floyd will get flak for taking the fight.From whom?Respected writer and journalists will shut up,Margarito fans' will shut up and no-one else can say anything because Tony is the best WW on the planet and you are DAM fwockin right no one will hear the end of it if he does not fight:Floyd always alLWAYS goes on about the making dollars,making sense,,where else will he make $8friggin Million?!?!?!
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Margarito is trying to cash in without doing any work...didn't he just beat gomez...a dude with ten losses...and floyd doesn't get any credit for beating mitchell & judah...the more people talk about margarito the more i don't want floyd to take the fight..because unlike the other real fighters who let their fists do the promoting this guy has nothing but his wack-assed supporters talking about him....all he need to do is beat someone with a real name....anybody he could beat gatti, or baldomir, or mayorga..oops i forgot he can't handle the seven pounds...but he wants to come in around 10 pounds heavier than floyd.....
I'm sorry but that is some BIGASS Floyd nuthugging right there!!! Also,your comments lose credence when even the majority of PBF fans who dislike Margarito want Floyd to take the fight!Also,Gomez had not lost for like 8 years before he fought Tony soooooooo ::**
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The Oscar fight would prove nothing if he beats him, Oscar is old if it was 1999 then Oscar would school PBF remember they have two opponents in common both of which were younger and stronger when Oscar fought them and beat, took them out in less time then PBF. And Oscar has said it before he does not want to be a stepping stone for anybody. As far as the Margarito or Hatton fights go either one is fine but he should take on the one the fans are calling out for and that is Tony, Why not if he can be as easy as some keep claimming it would be. HE would just get paid an easy $8mil correct? then there is still time to fight Hatton at the end of the year or if he really wanted to and the Oscar fight does happen then fight Hatton early next year. either way I hope Oscar and PBF does not happen.
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I think the article is kinda 'guilty until proven innocent' but I agree with a lot of it. His motto is if it makes dollars it makes sense. It certainly makes dollars so why not sign? We'll see how this pans out but for now, my pic is staying the way it is now.
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I think the article is kinda 'guilty until proven innocent' but I agree with a lot of it. His motto is if it makes dollars it makes sense. It certainly makes dollars so why not sign? We'll see how this pans out but for now, my pic is staying the way it is now.
right, ive finally got a chance to chime in with this debate...little did i know the interest the article would kindle as i hurriedly posted it this morning! :D
i agree with yoitsdan saying "guilty until proven innocent". PBF is always talking about the money being a key factor in making a fight. $8m talks to most people, if its suddenly not talking to floyd then you have to ask questions. PBF had been "coasting" for a long time prior to fighting zab. he hasnt been clearing out divisions and he hasnt been fighting the absolute cream of what has been on offer. even the fight with zab lost a lot of its garnish because of zabs lapse against baldomir. what im saying is that its not unheard of for floyd not to fight someone we would like him to fight. however with this kind of incentive, if floyd doesnt take the bait then you have to think somewhat negatively.
we know hatton is all swings and roundabouts when it comes to floyd at the moment. realistically hatton is probably 2 fights away from fighting floyd. a big money fight with delahoya is potentially one down the road. but in the meantime why not fight margarito for the "easy" $8m? he has belittled margarito saying the money isnt there, saying margarito isnt much of a fighter....heck, just beat him then and take the money!!!
the author is definately not on floyds side and does seem to be trying to stack it against floyd....but to be honest unless floyd fights margarito OR hatton this year then floyd will not have flattered us nor answered any of the key questions.
most of us predicted floyd would beat zab. opinions are much more varied when it comes to floyd against hatton or margarito.....lets see one of these fights come off, and not too long down the road....
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the whole boxing world wants to see mayweather fight hatton. floyd has got his agenda and i could call out fucking floyd if i wanted too. oh look he said no. yeah he must be scared. bollocks! mayweather is becoming a legend and its too early from his last fight for any decisions to be made.scared my ass.
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Margarito is trying to cash in without doing any work...didn't he just beat gomez...a dude with ten losses...and floyd doesn't get any credit for beating mitchell & judah...the more people talk about margarito the more i don't want floyd to take the fight..because unlike the other real fighters who let their fists do the promoting this guy has nothing but his wack-assed supporters talking about him....all he need to do is beat someone with a real name....anybody he could beat gatti, or baldomir, or mayorga..oops i forgot he can't handle the seven pounds...but he wants to come in around 10 pounds heavier than floyd.....
I'm sorry but that is some BIGASS Floyd nuthugging right there!!! Also,your comments lose credence when even the majority of PBF fans who dislike Margarito want Floyd to take the fight!Also,Gomez had not lost for like 8 years before he fought Tony soooooooo ::**
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Why is it nuthugging? It is a fact that gomez has ten losses? right...11 now...It is a fact that many had negative things to say when PBF beat Mitchell?
And I don't know what it is about margarito supporters that seems to think if you lose a while ago that it erases your losses...sorry but "no" it doesn't....i don't care if Gomez lost 10 years ago..he's got 11 losses....the guy is a fwooking loser d-rated fighter...and so what if tony stopped him...oooo big deal...I don't get it...margarito must be trying to build a new school in mexico or something, because everyone is hyping this dude up for the money fight when hasn't fought anybody to earn the money fight...
I think floyd fans, such as myself only want him to take the fight so people who like tony can shut once he takes the assswhooping...Me personally i'd rather see floyd fight someone that could seriously be someone he could lose too (hatton)....
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All we can do is wait.
Because actions, speak louder than words. :deal2:
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In the end...it all boils down to this...the past two years...Mayweather vs Gatti, Judah, Hatton, & Oscar has been the game plan & track.
Margarito starts making noise to fight Mayweather & wants the fight to take place 2 months before the Super Fight with Oscar or Hatton?
Come on now. There is no dollar amount that you can put out there that will equate to a win over Oscar...really even over Hatton.
If Floyd wants to accomplish his dreams by beating those two...who are we...or who are Margarito fans...to change the course of the man's plans? It's easy to talk all of this mess while we sit comfortably in our compu chairs & recliners...but we aint Floyd & we aint lacing up his gloves.
What will be will be & that is that.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
In the end...it all boils down to this...the past two years...Mayweather vs Gatti, Judah, Hatton, & Oscar has been the game plan & track.
Margarito starts making noise to fight Mayweather & wants the fight to take place 2 months before the Super Fight with Oscar or Hatton?
Come on now. There is no dollar amount that you can put out there that will equate to a win over Oscar...really even over Hatton.
If Floyd wants to accomplish his dreams by beating those two...who are we...or who are Margarito fans...to change the course of the man's plans? It's easy to talk all of this mess while we sit comfortably in our compu chairs & recliners...but we aint Floyd & we aint lacing up his gloves.
What will be will be & that is that.
Just because someone has a plan does not mean he is going to stick to it. Where did Brusseles and Mitchell come into that plan? Also,Floyd says he will fight anyone if the money is right,you have yet to answer where else he will get $8mill? ??? Also,like I have explained 10000 times,Oscar fight looks unlikely. On top of that,Hatton is not yet ready....and he will NOT get $8mill from a Hatton fight for a good while at least!
No-one on this firum can hide from the fact that if Floyd Mayweather does not sign that contract for the sum of $8 fwockin million, he is running. Simple as that,granted he has a long time to sign but I am saying it now.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
In the end...it all boils down to this...the past two years...Mayweather vs Gatti, Judah, Hatton, & Oscar has been the game plan & track.
Margarito starts making noise to fight Mayweather & wants the fight to take place 2 months before the Super Fight with Oscar or Hatton?
Come on now. There is no dollar amount that you can put out there that will equate to a win over Oscar...really even over Hatton.
If Floyd wants to accomplish his dreams by beating those two...who are we...or who are Margarito fans...to change the course of the man's plans? It's easy to talk all of this mess while we sit comfortably in our compu chairs & recliners...but we aint Floyd & we aint lacing up his gloves.
What will be will be & that is that.
Just because someone has a plan does not mean he is going to stick to it. Where did Brusseles and Mitchell come into that plan? Also,Floyd says he will fight anyone if the money is right,you have yet to answer where else he will get $8mill? ??? Also,like I have explained 10000 times,Oscar fight looks unlikely. On top of that,Hatton is not yet ready....and he will NOT get $8mill from a Hatton fight for a good while at least!
No-one on this firum can hide from the fact that if Floyd Mayweather does not sign that contract for the sum of $8 fwockin million, he is running. Simple as that,granted he has a long time to sign but I am saying it now.
To be honest The Game i agree, i dont know if he will get $8 million for Hatton but it wont be far off with the British money i can see them both earning around 8/10 million.
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Originally Posted by The Game
No-one on this firum can hide from the fact that if Floyd Mayweather does not sign that contract for the sum of $8 fwockin million, he is running. Simple as that,granted he has a long time to sign but I am saying it now.
Point taken.
We shall all see very very soon.
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Skel1983,if the fight was to happen at this moment in time,no way would they make $8million each in the US and no way would Floyd go to Britain so....
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Originally Posted by The Game
No-one on this firum can hide from the fact that if Floyd Mayweather does not sign that contract for the sum of $8 fwockin million, he is running. Simple as that,granted he has a long time to sign but I am saying it now.
Point taken.
We shall all see very very soon.
Dam straight!!
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Skel1983,if the fight was to happen at this moment in time,no way would they make $8million each in the US and no way would Floyd go to Britain so....
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Originally Posted by The Game
No-one on this firum can hide from the fact that if Floyd Mayweather does not sign that contract for the sum of $8 fwockin million, he is running. Simple as that,granted he has a long time to sign but I am saying it now.
Point taken.
We shall all see very very soon.
Dam straight!!
Yes your probably right actully, obvioulsy Tony aint getting that much of this fight with Floyd, Hatton will obviously want a bigger split probably 50/50. But Hatton brings at least an extra $5 million from English Tv alone.
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Floyd's already rich! He could fight anybody for an easy million, why not fight a bigger name like Hatton instead? That's the fight everyone wants to see.
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Yeah, you get a degree in Journalism and all of a sudden you a boxing expert; knowing the ins and outs of the business.
I knew this guy was a moron as soon as I read the first paragraph.
The most stupiest part of this article was when he started comparing situations in other sports compare to Boxing. Like how the fuck are you going to compare Tiger playing in the master with a boxer choosing his opponent?
This guy is an idiot. He doesn't know anything about business aspect of boxing.
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I'm a Margarito fan and true believer and don't buy this crap. Floyd more than anyone wants to fight Oscar (its personal...symbolically fighting his own pops...and that drama could make that even more lucrative than the imaginary Margarito deal your talking about) why risk that fight to fight a tough fight like Margarito now. That would make him stupid. Miles seems like you have some extra hate for Floyd (not uncommon) but damn that whole post was just extra for real....In the interim he might fight Baldomir or even Shane, but risking the payday and hype of De La Hoya fight to fight a bull like Margarito, if I was managing him even IF I thought he could beat Margarito would never encourage a fight with him right now.
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Yeah, you get a degree in Journalism and all of a sudden you a boxing expert; knowing the ins and outs of the business.
I knew this guy was a moron as soon as I read the first paragraph.
The most stupiest part of this article was when he started comparing situations in other sports compare to Boxing. Like how the F*** are you going to compare Tiger playing in the master with a boxer choosing his opponent?
This guy is an idiot. He doesn't know anything about business aspect of boxing.
Holy shat...that's priceless...didn't you just try to clarify something in a boxing related arguement on another thread by comparing it to basketball leagues to make a point?
Your'e right...this guy is an idiot.
You done good. ;D
