Contender bullsh*t!

The contender is currently airing in oz and there is some bullshit in that crap. For one...anyone know how to see the whole of the fights coz they are showing us what they want us to see. How are we ment to know its fair? And stallone....fuck you know jackshit about boxing mate, you stand in the audience and yell out "TOE TO TOE"....and the most idiotic statement in boxing goes to SLY STALLONE! Plus its funny to hear someone ask sly about a rocky six and he says "What am i going to fight, arthritis?" well hes making another one lol . I swear most of that shit is scripted, its too much like rocky. Plus that old trainer dude....tommy, i know he has trained boxers before but he sounds like he knows jack shit....he said Ahmed could hang with the dela hoyas of the world but got whooped by ishe. The best fighter out of them all is Gomez, he got heart...skill and power. I find it hard to see how manfredo beat him the second time, even with the shit highlights it looks like you could make a case for gomez.

Thank christ!

I thought that I was in the minority with my feelings on that turd of a reality show. I hated it myself...from start to finish...in fact...I never even finished it.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Thank christ!

I thought that I was in the minority with my feelings on that turd of a reality show. I hated it myself...from start to finish...in fact...I never even finished it.

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Its all bullshit infact its so bullshit my dad is starting to think that even the fights are staged but we agreed that the judgin could be totally fucked but we wouldnt know coz they are only showing what they want us to see. They should of showed us full fights instead of flickin back and forth to the family members with shocked faces and srl faking being shocked

You two are not alone.

Why the hell boxing got involved in this unreality TV rubbish is beyond me.

Big Brother concept was superb; and although not original, it was built off the brilliance of Orwell.

But that should of been it; it was done once, it should left alone for a very long time. But instead we get crap like 'Contenders' spawning from it; Winston must be turning in his proverbial grave!

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Originally Posted by Snakey

and srl faking being shocked

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Ha!

I loved that... SRL doing this all the time: :o as if he didn't have a clue what boxing was and thought that they where jsut going to parade around the ropes all day.

In one of them it looks as if he was an innocent guy walking around with his freinds and knew nothing of violence etc and the two guys he where with suddenly starting beating the crap out of each other.... then he starts faintly trying to tell them to stop it but is cut short mid sentance because he is so disgusted...

"Oh guys wai...." :o
"N... No... guy's... L... Listen..." :o

F*** off Ray, you know how brutal it is in teh ring... if he wasn't getting coke blown up his a*** off Sly he would be doing what he naturally wanted to and snoring in the crowd :P

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and srl faking being shocked

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Ha!

I loved that... SRL doing this all the time: :o as if he didn't have a clue what boxing was and thought that they where jsut going to parade around the ropes all day.

In one of them it looks as if he was an innocent guy walking around with his freinds and knew nothing of violence etc and the two guys he where with suddenly starting beating the crap out of each other.... then he starts faintly trying to tell them to stop it but is cut short mid sentance because he is so disgusted...

"Oh guys wai...." :o
"N... No... guy's... L... Listen..." :o

F*** off Ray, you know how brutal it is in teh ring... if he wasn't getting coke blown up his a*** off Sly he would be doing what he naturally wanted to and snoring in the crowd :P

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Yeah the whole fuckin thing is scripted. It all sounds too much like rocky ;)

It wasn't aimed at boxing fans... thats why every fight's desicion depended on the last round (according to the way it was cut)

No one drew a round or barely won a round... they dominated the round and then it was the other guy's turns to win a round... ::**

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It wasn't aimed at boxing fans... thats why every fight's desicion depended on the last round (according to the way it was cut)

No one drew a round or barely won a round... they dominated the round and then it was the other guy's turns to win a round... ::**

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Exactly, it was too back and forth to be real. It was aimed at rocky fans not boxing fans.

I AGREE... THE FIGHTS SUCKED BY THE WAY THEY WERE SHOT... TRIED TO MAK THEM LIKE A MOVIE. BUT MANFREDO WOULDNT HAVE TACKED 3 LOSSES ON HIS PRO RECORD FOR A GAME SHOW SO SORRY I DONT THINK ITS SCRIPTED :lickish:

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I AGREE... THE FIGHTS SUCKED BY THE WAY THEY WERE SHOT... TRIED TO MAK THEM LIKE A MOVIE. BUT MANFREDO WOULDNT HAVE TACKED 3 LOSSES ON HIS PRO RECORD FOR A GAME SHOW SO SORRY I DONT THINK ITS SCRIPTED :lickish:

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Explain please...because from the way that sounds...I'm just a tad bit confused?

its not scripted. its just carefully edited.

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I AGREE... THE FIGHTS SUCKED BY THE WAY THEY WERE SHOT... TRIED TO MAK THEM LIKE A MOVIE. BUT MANFREDO WOULDNT HAVE TACKED 3 LOSSES ON HIS PRO RECORD FOR A GAME SHOW SO SORRY I DONT THINK ITS SCRIPTED :lickish:

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Explain please...because from the way that sounds...I'm just a tad bit confused?

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SORRY... THAT WASNT VERY CLEAR... JUST TYPING FAST CUZ IM @ WORK... WHAT IS BEING SD IS THAT THE SHOWS ARE THOUGHT TO BE SCRIPTED. I DONT THINK PETER WOULD THROW HIS UNDEFEATED RECORD OUT THE WINDOW FOR A SCRIPT HE HAD READ ABOUT HIM TACKING 3 LOSSES ON HIS RECORD... I THINK HE WOULD HAVE TOLD BURNETTE TO BEAT IT IF HE KNEW HE WOULD BE 25-3 WHEN ALL WAS SAID AND DONE. HE'S NOT A SELL OUT. HE WENT ON THE SHOW FOR EXPOSURE(AND $$$) WE ALL KNOW MOST BOXERS HAVE TO SELL THEMSELVES... I JUST FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD THROW HIS RECOR AND HIS #22(THATS WHAT HE WAS PRIOR TO THE CONTENDER, I'VE BEEN A FAN FOR YEARS)RANKING @ MIDDLEWEIGHT AWAY FOR A SCRIPTED SHOW. I KNOW HIM AND THATS NOT HIM...

Yeah its bullshit........the bit that most pissed me off was when that lil prick Ahmed, was putting in effort to outbox ray leonard in a spar. Ouuuuu i would pay to see Ray Leonard abliterate that fool in his prime.

NO KIDDING.. THAT KID WAS A CHUMP

I agree it's all garbage, but I didn't understand everything you said snake, what language is that :)

iv never seen this show, anyway of watching or downloading it on the net?

i liked the show...guess im alone in this one

GO PETER!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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i liked the show...guess im alone in this one

GO PETER!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Me and you too bud. I don't care if the boxing purists hated I personally loved it. To me it was the best reality tv show of all time, in fact I can't think of a better series I have watched since V was on when I was a kid.

So what if they carefully edited it, that was to make it more dramatic, worked for me :P

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Thank christ!

I thought that I was in the minority with my feelings on that turd of a reality show. I hated it myself...from start to finish...in fact...I never even finished it.

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I enjoyed the episode's, But lack of fight footage and bad decisions packs the tent for me.

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i liked the show...guess im alone in this one

GO PETER!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Me and you too bud. I don't care if the boxing purists hated I personally loved it. To me it was the best reality tv show of all time, in fact I can't think of a better series I have watched since V was on when I was a kid.

So what if they carefully edited it, that was to make it more dramatic, worked for me :P

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yeah, gotta luv the drama ;)
It was cool for me, because SRL and Rocky were the 2 superstars that inspired me to take up boxing...
i was pretty fookin impressed to say the least

I liked it because I hadnt been able to watch boxing on TV for a real long time. Plus the show got me back interested in boxing. Which was the main goal of the show to begin with was to bring new people to the sport of boxing, and trying to show a side of the boxers outside of the ring.

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i liked the show...guess im alone in this one

GO PETER!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Me and you too bud. I don't care if the boxing purists hated I personally loved it. To me it was the best reality tv show of all time, in fact I can't think of a better series I have watched since V was on when I was a kid.


So what if they carefully edited it, that was to make it more dramatic, worked for me :P

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yeah, gotta luv the drama ;)
It was cool for me, because SRL and Rocky were the 2 superstars that inspired me to take up boxing...
i was pretty fookin impressed to say the least

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Did it piss you off too when Ahmed disrespected SRL??

Ok what i mean by scripted is that everything that goes on in the house and everything they say is all bullshit and stallone and srl obviously had scripts during the fights. I dont think Bonsante would of said that many cliches all the time. The thing that shits me the most is that Alfonso lost to manfredo the second time but from the highlights i could of scored the fight for Alfonso. The highlights make it impossible to see what really happens.

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i liked the show...guess im alone in this one

GO PETER!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Me and you too bud. I don't care if the boxing purists hated I personally loved it. To me it was the best reality tv show of all time, in fact I can't think of a better series I have watched since V was on when I was a kid.


So what if they carefully edited it, that was to make it more dramatic, worked for me :P

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yeah, gotta luv the drama ;)
It was cool for me, because SRL and Rocky were the 2 superstars that inspired me to take up boxing...
i was pretty fookin impressed to say the least

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Did it piss you off too when Ahmed disrespected SRL??

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yeah, and i was glad the prick got beat up twice by smaller guys

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Ok what i mean by scripted is that everything that goes on in the house and everything they say is all bullshit and stallone and srl obviously had scripts during the fights. I dont think Bonsante would of said that many cliches all the time. The thing that shits me the most is that Alfonso lost to manfredo the second time but from the highlights i could of scored the fight for Alfonso. The highlights make it impossible to see what really happens.

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That is the thing that I really did not like about the show. They way they edited the fights made the fights really hard to judge at all.

Fuck judging the fights. I enjoyed the show. It was the bomb.

The Contender was a way for regular people to get into boxing. The sport itself is dying. Think of it as one last chance to bring it back into the mainstream. Don't whine like a girl because it was edited. Theres plenty of non-edited boxing for you to blow your load on.

I probly would have liked non-edited matches better, but it didn't take away anything from the show. I enjoyed all the crazy ass camera angles, the Hans Zimmer score, and the final round in which everything depended on. It made it look as if the person you were routing for had an equal chance at the final round, even if he was getting his ass handed to him the entire fight.

Regular people who don't know shit about boxing call it boring. The Contender gave the average person Gatti/Ward style fights.

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F*** judging the fights. I enjoyed the show. It was the bomb.

The Contender was a way for regular people to get into boxing. The sport itself is dying. Think of it as one last chance to bring it back into the mainstream. Don't whine like a girl because it was edited. Theres plenty of non-edited boxing for you to blow your load on.

I probly would have liked non-edited matches better, but it didn't take away anything from the show. I enjoyed all the crazy a** camera angles, the Hans Zimmer score, and the final round in which everything depended on. It made it look as if the person you were routing for had an equal chance at the final round, even if he was getting his a** handed to him the entire fight.

Regular people who don't know S*** about boxing call it boring. The Contender gave the average person Gatti/Ward style fights.

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Calm down. I did not say that I didnt like the show or that it took anything away from the shos. I liked learning about the boxers and their lives. That is what made it so interesting. I personally did not like watching the edited fights. I would have preferred watching the fights in full, and I like all of the little things that happen during the fight not just the punching, the feinting, head and foot movements, etc. I understand that the show was not geared toward the purist boxing fans, but more towards getting nonfans interested in the sport again.

And not all of us are able to watch current fights on TV. The only way I get to watch any fights is to buy it or download it.

yeah me too
and occasionally on german television :'(

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F*** judging the fights. I enjoyed the show. It was the bomb.

The Contender was a way for regular people to get into boxing. The sport itself is dying. Think of it as one last chance to bring it back into the mainstream. Don't whine like a girl because it was edited. Theres plenty of non-edited boxing for you to blow your load on.

I probly would have liked non-edited matches better, but it didn't take away anything from the show. I enjoyed all the crazy a** camera angles, the Hans Zimmer score, and the final round in which everything depended on. It made it look as if the person you were routing for had an equal chance at the final round, even if he was getting his a** handed to him the entire fight.

Regular people who don't know S*** about boxing call it boring. The Contender gave the average person Gatti/Ward style fights.

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Calm down. I did not say that I didnt like the show or that it took anything away from the shos. I liked learning about the boxers and their lives. That is what made it so interesting. I personally did not like watching the edited fights. I would have preferred watching the fights in full, and I like all of the little things that happen during the fight not just the punching, the feinting, head and foot movements, etc. I understand that the show was not geared toward the purist boxing fans, but more towards getting nonfans interested in the sport again.

And not all of us are able to watch current fights on TV. The only way I get to watch any fights is to buy it or download it.

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I never said I was able to watch current fights on TV. I have to download them too, or catch them on TSN a week after they air (I live in Canada). The last live fight I saw on a TV screen was Manfredo vs. Sergio.

It got my Girlfriend into boxing so im happy :)

I agree with Tiger, and agree with Tybuff too, I would have preferred watching the fights in full.
I don't think the fights are scripted.
Sly, please, go home... It's sad man... :-[

i liked the show coz it was different to other realalty shows