This is an excellent article...especially the way it points out the scenario between PBF-ODLH-MAYORGA
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2423823
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This is an excellent article...especially the way it points out the scenario between PBF-ODLH-MAYORGA
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2423823
Wow, haha... all of a sudden, $8 million seems like nothing.
Good article man. :coolclick:
:coolclick: good read.
Now where's my boy The Game at?!?!?!
As I said before 'Guilty until proven innocent' I was expecting something like this to come out, $23m seems an awful lot for one nights work, I don't know if the fight would be as big as that, then again I'm not american so I don't know. All I know is that over here in the UK, Hatton vs Mayweather would sell BIG. Hatton is our only PPV fighter since naz quit, and I imagine Hatton vs Mayweather could generate $30m in the uk alone from PPV buys.
No need to worry Wack,I'm here and yes,like I said,the Oscar fight is much better financially,but which true fan wants to see an aging Oscar fight PBF? Also,the $55mill is just a rumoured price but I can see where Floyd is coming from. $23mill for one night's work,any idiot can see that's amazing!My point is if the Oscar fight does not come off,he has no excuse not to fight Tony!Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I'd rather see him fight Hatton than Tony. I honestly think that Hatton vs Mayweather would be the more explosive fight! :bananasex:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
I bet Oscar doesn't fight PBF. "All your hopes go poof".
I agree with you man. I really think once Oscar gets by Mayorga he's gonna wanna lure Tito out of retirement so he can fight him for his farewell fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuckwopat
I agree. But Oscar did do this against JCC so he may deserve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Hatton is not yet ready,you won't find any promoter in the states willing to put the amout of money arum was willing to put ito Tony PBF on Hatton,not yet anyway.
What did Oscar do with Chavez?
I'm sure the fight would be big, but I really don't think Hatton is capable of drawing 2 million ppv buys just in this country. It's not like Mayweathers some huge name to the average guy who could draw astrononical numbers.Quote:
All I know is that over here in the UK, Hatton vs Mayweather would sell BIG. Hatton is our only PPV fighter since naz quit, and I imagine Hatton vs Mayweather could generate $30m in the uk alone from PPV buys.
Nope, Floyd plays it safe with his fighting style, and what you just said is the end result of that. As good as Floyd is, unlike Ali/Roy Jones/SRL he's not bigger than the sport...Quote:
Originally Posted by Larryboy
And for the last time he's not pretty
borderline repulsive on the facial features actually :)
Exactly when was Roy Jones seen as being bigger than the sport ???Quote:
Originally Posted by raleights
If he dosn't fight him, the Margarito will still be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuckwopat
Proof? Ask any person walking down the street who Floyd Mayweather is, you'll get alot of Floyd Whos?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Ask them about Ali/SRL/Roy Jones and you won't get a Roy Who :). Same goes for Tyson, Foreman, Oscar.
People who have no idea what boxing is about can tell ya who they are, because they aren't just boxers, they're superstars. Of course Floyd's personality is a little too dry to be big outside the sport which isn't his fault (trying to qoute Ali and sounding like a pre-schooler doesn't help that either). Just calling it how I see it :(
i always said, PBF deserves the big bucks like 23million pay day with Oscar first. then he can clean up the rest. give him his big mother pay day then he'll take care of the hattons, margaritos, cottos, etc.
Dude, I don't know what third world country you're living in but here in the States, everyone knows Floyd Mayweather. If you say Floyd Mayweather, even people who don't watch boxing know he's a boxer. He is not a mega box office ppv draw, but neither was Roy. And I find it hilarious that you mention Roy in the same breath as Ali and Leonard as if he's even on the same planet of box office appeal as either of them. Roy had to go and fight a heavyweight in order to get over 500,000 ppv buys, whereas Oscar on average draws way higher than that. Sorry to be the one to break it to you but the biggest drawing fighters in history can be counted on one hand and neither Roy nor Floyd are among them.Quote:
Originally Posted by raleights
That Floyd is one smart mofo.
its pretty close to the amount of euroz or pounds or roubles or whatever the F*** is used for currency in europe these days, the $ is a little less so maybee at that point like 2 million less then euromoneyQuote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I willing to pay $500 to see the PBF vs HATTON fight on PPV I'm willing to pay $1000 to see it LIVE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larryboy
That is the Only Fight I'm Willing to see at the Moment and also the Cotto vs Castillo.
would u use your free ringside seats to see it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
Free ringside tickets for Pretty Boy and Hatton? I'd say yeah for the fight,DEFINITELY but for the chicas,bro,Cotto-Castillo is the fight to go to. Watch any Cotto fights and the HOTTEST latina honeys are in the crowd!! I remember in the Torres fight,the camera went around the arena for about 20 seconds and I counted about 10 HOT ladies!
23 million is a lot. Yes.
But 23 Million + 8 Million + 2 Million on PPV Percentages = 33 Million
33 Million makes 23 Million look small!
Do your math. Floyd can fight both fights (Margarito & Oscar). But Mayweather likes to fight at least once a year, at this point in his career. And fights, at most twice a year.
Whatever the case, Mayweather won't fight Margarito. Unless he's forced to. Oscar's not even a done deal, you guys act like it is!
Mayweather knows that he'll get a beating in the Margarito fight! ;) Why else, would he AVOID him. That's right, I said it. AVOID!!!
Mayweather only looks out for number one. Himself. He doesn't care for boxing.
If he actually cared for the sport, he'd fight someone in their prime, who actually posed a threat. Margarito and Hatton are perfect examples.
This isn't new either. Mayweather's been ducking difficult fights for over three years. At 140 and 147 he has yet to face some legit player. Gatti was a paper champion! Judah too! C'mon Mayweather fans, even after 4 years your never gonna get the clue that your fighter will never fight a tough fight, UNLESS he is forced to! ;)
Also this 23 million dollar number is coming from what? ??? A contract? Helll nooo! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
This is just a number thrown out by some dude. heheh
If you ask me, Oscar has Floyd by the ballz, because he's making Floyd do things by just rumor and talk. Think about it. Floyd just turned down a guaranteed 8 million dollar payday, for just a hope to fight Oscar.
And who knows, Oscar can fight Trinidad, who's talking comeback again, or fight Vargas should he win. Or give Quartey or anybody to make millions of dollars. Oscar doesn't need Floyd, rather Floyd needs Oscar. And it's showing, the way Floyd has turned down a GREAT payday and doing silly things like depending on a fight that isn't even that possible.
Eight Million is more money than Floyd has made his entire career, for a fight. And he turned down a Guaranteed payday!!!! Just to pray Oscar doesn't get knocked out, OR actually wants to fight him.
Bad business move. If he had the guts, Floyd would have killed two birds in one year, and got Margarito over with, get the 8 MILLION!!!!! .... then try to offer Oscar a deal.
Floyd is just trying to make easy money, at fight fan's expense. Hmmmmm... and the Roy Jones Jr. Jr. debate continues. :detective:
Excellent points bro....again! The only thing I say in Floyd's favour is that I can't say he is running until after the ODLH fight,because if his hand is ok to sign that contract,after that fight,it should be ok to sign the Margarito contract,second like you said,that number is just a random number made up and thirdly,if after alllll of this he does not fight Tony,even the biggest Floyd fanboy cannot deny he ran and it will always haunt him.
I love Oscar but this 1 time,I soooooo hope he loses,then we'll see what Floyd does.
Man.....It's already started...silly silly...Now Judah was a paper champ and PBF still hasn't beaten anybody at WW...man you're silly...Judah did have three of the four belts at WW just ealier this year right..and he did get them by beating the man who also had all of them (spinks) Who did margarito beat to get his belt? Futhermore Judah and mayweather both came from smaller weights and still ended up with significant WW belts before margarito....he been there for 10years and still doesn't have a real belt nor has he beaten anybody...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
PBF is already in the HOF...and he wants to fight oscar for 23 million...then fight hatton...he can....I'm so tired of people overhyping this Tony guy...yeah he's the best bartender from tiajuanna...but on the level of PBF, Hatton, i think not...because even Hatton has at least beat two guys worth mentioning in KT and Phillips....
So floyd hasn't had a tough fight in 3 years...that more so speaks to his ability than any thing else...where as almost every other tony fight looks like he might get his 5th loss...
Even if the calculations are off he'd still make money fighting oscar..and what's margarito gonna do? Nothing besides what he's been doing which is beating up nobodies....and floyd will decide to fight him when he gets ready...so actually PBF has tony by the balls and the wallet because he can get paid without floyd...If margarito were smart he'd hurry and beat somebody with a name so he could get more of the possible money between him and floyd...and then floyd will only get about six or seven....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Lookie Lou.
IF there's anyone that wants to see Margarito vs. Mayweather. You had better hope and root for Mayorga to beat DLH :)
That sounds more likely but if PBF can get the $23 million, my hats off to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wadeb_21
Floyd was GUARANTEED 8 Million. And I'll Guarantee you, he won't make up to 23 million.
It took Oscar, to go past his prime, to make that kind of money. Oscar!!! The Golden Goose.
It won't generate that kind of money.
Floyd just wants easy money. When he could have gotten Guaranteed Money. In real life, and in a dirty business such as Boxing... YOU ALWAYS GO FOR LARGE AMOUNTS OF GUARANTEED MONEY. You don't go for money that people, dirty people, promise you'll make. Because it won't be 23 million. Oscar was barely paid 15 million, to fight the biggest non-heavyweight bout ever, in Trinidad fight, when he was in his prime. And you guys think Mayweather will break 23 million now! :D haha
He won't. DON'T EVER FALL FOR TALK!!! ESPECIALLY IN BOXING. NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU READ IT IN WRITING AND THE FINE PRINT. If he was a risky business man, and a smart one at that, he'd take the Margarito money, WIN, then go for Oscar and make MORE money just based on his win with Margarito.
Especially if your supposed to beat a fighter like Margarito.
actually oscar made 34 million in two fights in one year when he fought Sturm and Hopkins that year....so him and PBF will definitely generate enough for Floyd to make at least 15-20 million...still more than what he'd get against tony...and it's not like he won't still get 8 million against tony..he can make 15-20 million against delahoya then fight tony for 8...because tony's too stupid to actually fight someone else while floyd is recovering and waiting to fight oscar...i mean fight someone with a real name...then he won't have to rely on just floyd's name to sell the fight....
Don't mix up Oscar with Floyd. Oscar's a supermodel who happens to box. Also, the Latino community is huge in the U.S. They either hate or love him, but they'll pay to see him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Oscar is the "Golden Boy" or Golden Ticket. He's the Golden Goose, the money maker. Don't EVER mix Floyd with Oscar, when it comes to money. Oscar makes even the richest boxers look poor. Golden Boy Promotions owner might even end up owning Mayweather. haha
if Mayorga wins there will be no DLH PBF ;) Then you Margarito fans can get the fight you want!!! So, root for Mayorga!!
hELL YEAH IM ROOTING FOR MAYROGA!I like Oscar,no doubt,who doesn't,the guy may look like a super model but he has balls of steel,and don't worry Gyro,I don't want Oscar to get beaten up tooo badly,like Mayorga wants to detach his retina and stuff!!!
i can see the pretty boy goint the same way as roy jones, one day a medium cooked punch will land on his chin and he wont be able to digest it, i have severe dbouts over his ability to take a punch. he's a pretty boxer not a hardend fighter
Then you haven't been watching floyd...he's taken a some hard shots standing up..even been wobbled a few times...he's just in so much shape that his legs are strong enough to keep him up...Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclear bull
And the punch that tarver hit RJJ with was perfect, hard enough to drop anybody at LHW and even some heavys....not to mention that Roy didn't even see it...So this notion of RJJ couldn't take a punch is stupid...
Now in the Johnson fight it wasn't just one punch..he beat on RJJ for 8 rounds before dropping him with a shot to the temple....and roy didn't want to fight anyway so....
Also Roy
i can respect your views because i'm a man, i would hope you could do the same, i don't see the need to insult a 3rd party just airing there views.
you have your opinian and i have mine, neigher one of us is more right then the other, learn to live with small fact and you'll take more fun from posting in open view forums. thanks alot pal and have a nice day
Everybody thinks Margarito is good because he is a Huge welterweight, but you know what, Floyd needs this big guys like Margarito to bring the best in him. Margarito can't beat him, but maybe he can land some good shots. Floyd knows how to prepare for a big guy like that. Floyd's speed will kill him just like it did Corrales. PBF kills big punchers like Emanuel Agustus, Corrales, N'Dou, Gatti!!
Margarito has never been overmatched and never had to take risks...especially in his last fight, the guy Manuel gomez had 10 losses on his record and it was obvious he didn't belong in the ring, so know Gomez has 11 losses. Cintron was just outclassed but then again Cintron has never fought anyone good, he just beat up people who he was expected to beat.
This will be a classic Lenoard vs. Hearns all over again, where the big guy gets chopped down. I can't even imgaine what these big welterweights go through just to make that 147lb limit....After Floyd embarrases Margarito, then Margarito should move up to 154 or 160 and stop beating up the little guys.
As far as the $23 million goes, I highly doubt that he will make that much against De La hoya, DLH usually takes most of the money. That's just my opinion but I might be wrong
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Originally Posted by boxingufcdvds
Who insulted you?Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclear bull