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Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
Who would have won the fight if frank had prepared himself for alll the rounds.
remeber frank was winning on points but suddenly ran out stamina or got caught with a good punch, maybe both. frank had lost fight before just because of stamina against tim witherspoon as frank leaded on points, but then beat oliver mcall, this was the first wbc fight when frank never ran out of stamina and won the fight.
would bruno really hav won if stamina wasn't a problem????
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
No, that big right hand would have ended the fight at anytime in the fight, even the first round. So i think stamina played less of a role than the big right hand that sealed his faith.
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
I FORGOT TO GIVE MY OPINION I THINK FRANK WOULD HAVE KNOCKED LEWIS OUT ESPECIALLY FOR CALLING FRANK UNCLE TOM
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bruno was extremely competitive up until that point and seemed to be out jabbing lewis himself....
bruno was a decent fighter but he did seem to falter just at the crucial moments in his big fights...
tyson was the only man to dominate bruno really....
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
One thing is for sure Tyson was never the same fighter ever again after Bruno hit him with that right hand in the first round.
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One thing is for sure Tyson was never the same fighter ever again after Bruno hit him with that right hand in the first round.
i remember that very clearly as a kid of 9....my first clear memory of boxing....
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
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Who would have won the fight if frank had prepared himself for alll the rounds.
remeber frank was winning on points but suddenly ran out stamina or got caught with a good punch, maybe both. frank had lost fight before just because of stamina against tim witherspoon as frank leaded on points, but then beat oliver mcall, this was the first wbc fight when frank never ran out of stamina and won the fight.
would bruno really hav won if stamina wasn't a problem????
woulda, coulda, shoulda.....Bruno knew it was him weakness and it always got the best of him..or was it lack of heart?,,,this problem always came up in the biggest fights....
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sorry Bruno didn't have the chin
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Originally Posted by Starr
One thing is for sure Tyson was never the same fighter ever again after Bruno hit him with that right hand in the first round.
i remember that very clearly as a kid of 9....my first clear memory of boxing....
Yeah me too. I stayed up all night to listen to it on the radio. Never forget Harry Carpenter losing it and yelling 'Get in there Frank!'
Awesome partisan commentary from Harry. ;D
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
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sorry Bruno didn't have the chin
Didn't have a bad chin, he just had a problem defending punches after being hit on the chin. Look at punches from Lewis, Tyson and Witherspoon that couldn't floor him, he just lay on the ropes getting pummeled. As far as an attacking fighter goes, he was fantastic imo
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
agreed he just lolled like a baby when he got tagged hard.
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ye he didnt go down easy, it was just his legs and arms froze up when he got hit hard.
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
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I FORGOT TO GIVE MY OPINION I THINK FRANK WOULD HAVE KNOCKED LEWIS OUT ESPECIALLY FOR CALLING FRANK UNCLE TOM
:coolclick: You're a complete and utter wanker but I admire your persistence.
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please no swearin .................bomp..........
wako don't ban him please
thank you for ur time
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Bruno should of been born 15 years later.. he would kicked the Audley Harrisons and Danny Williams's of this countrys arse's..
Although I don't mind Danny Williams, it's a shame to think that he's the best heavyweight we have.
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
I think Frank would have had a better chance, I've seen the fight and i don't think Lewis dominated and if Bruno had better stamia i think he would have one.
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It was abad Lewis performance that night in Cardiff and he still won by K.o . Imagine if he was on form !
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
lewis looked bad because frank was all over him like a cheap suit, frank started to showboat and got caught with a punch which lewis threw with his eyes shut. had frank landed his famous right on lewis it would have been over but he chose to jab jab and jab
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lewis looked bad because frank was all over him like a cheap suit, frank started to showboat and got caught with a punch which lewis threw with his eyes shut. had frank landed his famous right on lewis it would have been over but he chose to jab jab and jab
He did land his right hand on Bruno . I cant provide you with a specific round off the top of my head but it was a jab jab right as Lewis was throwing his own left hook . Bruno followed up with rabbit punches but Lennox recovered . When Lewis landed his best shot it was over for Frank
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lewis could not noc frank down, if the ref never stop it lennox would have ran out stamina, and his glass jaw would hav wiped him out byy frank jab
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Originally Posted by lennox lewisreturn
lewis could not noc frank down, if the ref never stop it lennox would have ran out stamina, and his glass jaw would hav wiped him out byy frank jab
The ref stopped it so Bruno wouldn't get badly hurt. Bruno stamina sucked just as bad as Lewis. Anybody remember Bruno-Mccall? When Bruno was barely hanging on.
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mcall y did u mess about in rematch wid lewis?????????????? it only would have take u 1 punch
anyone remember mcall knocin lewis out in just 2nd round
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mcall y did u mess about in rematch wid lewis?????????????? it only would have take u 1 punch
anyone remember mcall knocin lewis out in just 2nd round
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mcall y did u mess about in rematch wid lewis?????????????? it only would have take u 1 punch
anyone remember mcall knocin lewis out in just 2nd round
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
Bruno had too much muscle to have great stamina, he also suffered when under pressure. Against Bugner or Brown because he totally dominated, he was ok stamnia wise. But Against Smith, Whitherspoon and Lewis, he was under too much pressure, to win. Even against the likes of Williams, Gross and McCall, he was struggling, because the fights were not totally one sided. ;)
And as for Lewis' Uncle Tom remark, well Bruno kind of was....
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
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lennox lewisreturn
Who would have won the fight if frank had prepared himself for alll the rounds.
remeber frank was winning on points but suddenly ran out stamina or got caught with a good punch, maybe both. frank had lost fight before just because of stamina against tim witherspoon as frank leaded on points, but then beat oliver mcall, this was the first wbc fight when frank never ran out of stamina and won the fight.
would bruno really hav won if stamina wasn't a problem????
All I can say is that it is a strong possibilty as Frank was ahead on the scorecards.
Bruno was outjabbing Lewis & continually getting the upper hand.
Lewis, at that stage in his career was far too reckless & over reliant on his big Right hand, although he actually finished Bruno with a Left hook (something we didn't see too much of from Lewis).
Saying that, it would not have mattered how hard Frank trained, because he was a notorious hard trainer, he always ran out of stamina in hard fights (the McCall fight was not hard because he virtually did nothing for 10 rounds & didn't pressurise Frank enough); that was the way with Frank.
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No he wouldnt. Never ko'd any 'live' fighter before so why start now.
As for if this happened and that happened bullshit, if your granny had a pair of balls she'd be your granda
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
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lennox lewisreturn
lewis could not noc frank down, if the ref never stop it lennox would have ran out stamina, and his glass jaw would hav wiped him out byy frank jab
id love to have a look at this crystal ball you have mate. if anyone had the glass jaw i would say it would be bruno
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
I just love these what if situations. What if Bruno didn't run out of stamina? Might Lewis have employed a different strategy, perhaps been more aggressive, worked the body more? You can't just change the thing that would have favored your fighter. What if Lewis' fists weighed 10lbs each? I think that would have changed something in the fight too.
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
Lewis caught Bruno with a peach of a punch and won not because Bruno was tired but because Bruno's inability to hold and survive when he was hurt.
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The Bruno fight was one of the WORST performances in Lennox Lewis' career. Lennox got lazy in more than his fair share of fights and in the Bruno fight he was lazy the entire fight until he landed that punch.
Just my opinion though
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
Bruno had a great left hand jab and he plainted his feet really good when unloaing big heavy shots.Bruno was the first heavyweight pro to rock Tyson when their met.If you watch it i believe Bruno rocks Tyson to the core with a great left hand.Tyson was surerly trouble for a bit and if Bruno had longer in that particular round he would KO'd or stopped Tyson.Watch it again and you'll know what i mean.If only!!!!;D
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yvonne
Bruno had a great left hand jab and he plainted his feet really good when unloaing big heavy shots.Bruno was the first heavyweight pro to rock Tyson when their met.If you watch it i believe Bruno rocks Tyson to the core with a great left hand.Tyson was surerly trouble for a bit and if Bruno had longer in that particular round he would KO'd or stopped Tyson.Watch it again and you'll know what i mean.If only!!!!;D
Haha slightly optimistic about the affect of that ounch mate. Bonecrusher and Tucker (who rocked him worse than anybody before Douglas) hurt him before Bruno did
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yvonne
Bruno had a great left hand jab and he plainted his feet really good when unloaing big heavy shots.Bruno was the first heavyweight pro to rock Tyson when their met.If you watch it i believe Bruno rocks Tyson to the core with a great left hand.Tyson was surerly trouble for a bit and if Bruno had longer in that particular round he would KO'd or stopped Tyson.Watch it again and you'll know what i mean.If only!!!!;D
Haha slightly optimistic about the affect of that ounch mate. Bonecrusher and Tucker (who rocked him worse than anybody before Douglas) hurt him before Bruno did
It was a good punch but the moment lasted only a second and Tyson was firing back almost immediately, anyone else would have been flattened by the punch but Tyson had a very good chin back then.
Yvonne you sound like Harry Carpenter.
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
I would not say it is far fetched to think Bruno would have won......Lennox had yet to reach his peak when he faced Bruno and if you watched the fight it was a horrible performance he gave against Bruno...He was impatient and throwing punches with reckless abandon.....Even when he finished Bruno he was not all that accurate....
At their peaks Bruno was no where near the class of a prime Lennox Lewis....Bruno for some reason had problems in the really big fights of his career...I don't know if it was stamina or nerves that caused stamina issues for him but he always seemed a bit over anxious and liked to bust his whole wad in the first rounds.....
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lennox lewisreturn
mcall y did u mess about in rematch wid lewis?????????????? it only would have take u 1 punch
anyone remember mcall knocin lewis out in just 2nd round
WTF are you talking about?...Lewis was stopped twice McCall and Rahman...In both fights he came in out of shape and tried to be cocky...It cost him both times.....Lennox had a great chin...anyone who says different has obviously not seen the majority of his career...If you see the Mercer, Tua fights alone he took big time punches...It had little to do with McCall and his skill set or Lennox having a glass chin
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Re: Would Frank Bruno have beat lennox Lewis if frank never ran out of stamina
If Lewis had been lazier with Shannon Briggs he would have lost that fight too, I think that left hook that almost floored him woke him up. The same with Vitali's right cross in the 2nd round of their fight woke Lewis up once he recovered.
For being such a great fighter Lennox Lewis had some really lazy/careless moments in the ring and for a lesser fighter they would have certainly been disasterous.
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Lyle
If Lewis had been lazier with Shannon Briggs he would have lost that fight too, I think that left hook that almost floored him woke him up. The same with Vitali's right cross in the 2nd round of their fight woke Lewis up once he recovered.
For being such a great fighter Lennox Lewis had some really lazy/careless moments in the ring and for a lesser fighter they would have certainly been disasterous.
Agreed...I will be the first to admit...as big a fan as I am/was of Lewis he had the tendency to be full of himself and like you said in the Briggs/Vitali fights those moments could have been a disaster......Those losses would have totally changed his place in the HW divisions all time rankings
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I think comparatively speaking Wladimir fights more "by the book" than Lennox Lewis did. Maybe that's why Lewis was considered more fun to watch by most people.
I will say it's a testament to how great Lewis was to be able to recover so quickly and even win on an "off night" like he had vs Bruno. Being able to work through that kind of adversity makes fighters great. For example Marciano and "The Punch" vs Walcott came at a point when Rocky was almost stopped the previous round. That moment alone added a lot to Marciano's legacy.
