"You never get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate. You got a right to say yay or nay."
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"You never get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate. You got a right to say yay or nay."
poignant fact, when you consider how many criminals are able to plea bargain their way to light sentences.
Bollocks to Don King.
That sucks when he has all the bargaining power
very clever man
Don King ain't nothing else but a product of Darwin's survival of the fittest theory.
Say what you want about the man... but he is the Greatest Promotor ever, and when he is on form, he is very witty.
"I can't believe that having said what I said was interpreted as having been what I said when I said it, because I said it where I said it, when I said it, and who I said it to."
"If you cast your bread upon the water and you have faith, you'll get back cash. If you don't have faith, you'll get soggy bread!"
"Mike Tyson has been given every penny he has coming"
He is an unscrupulous businessman, even though very good one. =)
"Martin Luther King took us to the mountain top... I want to take us to the bank." ;)
forget the qoutes
more emphasis on the hair...
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he's never had a real smile with his family, but when he has a fat sum of cash in his hand.....that's when he really expresses his joy.Quote:
Originally Posted by raleights
A boxer said that once on a documentary i got
Smart man....
good one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oggie
Yea, you guys would probably like to allow Don to turn boxing into something like pro wrestling--all fake with fake judges, refs, and announcers.
Some aspects of boxing have been like that for hundreds of years, King is no different to premier promotors of the past. Making as much money as he can, doing whatever needs to do it. Boxing is not going to change anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by maracho
Anybody with common since knows that Don King is bad for boxing and should protest the likes. Has he ever had a fighter that he has not taken advantage. All of his past fighters and most of his present ones have made public complaints about him.
Don King was with Mayorga last night but was also promoting the Showtime fights as well and as usual a boxer got robbed after fighting their guts out. Nicaraguan Perez did not even come close to winning that fight against the russian yet two judges in cahoots with Mr. King and Showtime had him way ahead.
The Rumble in the JungleQuote:
Originally Posted by maracho
The Thrilla in Manila
The Heavyweight Unification Tournament of 86 to 88
Revenge; the rematches
Chavez/Haugan in front of 135,000
Without King, perhaps none of this would of happened....
King is a Genius, and like all Genius' he is flawed; and he is badly flawed.
But you have to weigh King up, and make a personal judgement, it is a tough call IMO.
One thing I would say is that rarely are boxing fans neutral when it comes to opinions on King. ;)
he's bad for boxing and always has been..don't forget this is the same guy that ripped off "The Greatest"......He had separated the titles and if he couldn't get his fighter a title shot he created one "IBF" for Holmes....the fact that boxing has allowed all the different titles allows this man to manipulate it.....if things went back to 1 title and the #1 challenger got the shot you would see the great boxing of old...until then we have to settle for poor champs that are only champ because of watered down divisions.....ala Chirs Byrd, Haseem Rahman, Ruiz, Spinks (both), smith, witherspoon, tubbs, berbick, mercer, morrison, bentt, hide, moorer, seldon, botha, akinwande, toney, and brewster none of these guys listed had or has the talent to be a true champion....with only 1 title we would know this outright. instead you have decent fighters fighting other decent/halfassed fighters and becoming champ.....oh yeah, and with out the leaches the fighters that truely deserve a title shot gets it.....the fans could have a say as to who's the #1 challenger or you could make the NABF champ the automatic #1 challenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtko
The IBF was created by Bob Lee when he threw his toys out the pram after failing to get elected as WBA President.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
One Champion in each division, also means potentially great fighters being avoided because they lack the right connections. It also might lead to less wages for fighters who although not good enough to be the World Champ, are good enough to be a titlist, and make a decent living at the moment.
Rahman, Moorer and both the Spinks were at one time or another The TRUE World Champions which you are talking about; Michael Spinks at two weights. ;)