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Opinions on De La Hoya vs. Mayweather Jr.
We've heard rumors about this fight but of course, it might not even take place. But assuming they would fight,who would win? why?
First I'd like to say that it would not be the boring fight some of you think it will be UNLESS Floyd runs. I never quite understood why you guys just pick Floyd without much thought. He's a great boxer who has great speed but he can't really knockout guys like Vargas, Oscar, Trinidad,Mayorga, etc... I see the outcome of this fight like the Forrest / Mayorga one...I'm not at all comparing Oscar with Mayorga ( NOT AT ALL...haha ) or Forrest with Floyd but I think it's similar in the way that everyone is quickly picking Floyd to win...just like Forrest would easily beat Mayorga(or so they thought).
If Floyd trades with Oscar, he goes down!! I don't see Floyd hurting Oscar and much less a KO against him. If it goes all the way, It can go either way. It would be GREAT to see Floyd get KOed, he talks too much sh*t.
So my pick: Oscar by KO
Yes I dislike Floyd Jr. but I wasn't rooting for Judah, Judah's a bigger biatch than Floyd!
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Originally Posted by Jman76
We've heard rumors about this fight but of course, it might not even take place. But assuming they would fight,who would win? why?
First I'd like to say that it would not be the boring fight some of you think it will be UNLESS Floyd runs. I never quite understood why you guys just pick Floyd without much thought. He's a great boxer who has great speed but he can't really knockout guys like Vargas, Oscar, Trinidad,Mayorga, etc... I see the outcome of this fight like the Forrest / Mayorga one...I'm not at all comparing Oscar with Mayorga ( NOT AT ALL...haha ) or Forrest with Floyd but I think it's similar in the way that everyone is quickly picking Floyd to win...just like Forrest would easily beat Mayorga(or so they thought).
If Floyd trades with Oscar, he goes down!! I don't see Floyd hurting Oscar and much less a KO against him. If it goes all the way, It can go either way. It would be GREAT to see Floyd get KOed, he talks too much sh*t.
So my pick: Oscar by KO
Yes I dislike Floyd Jr. but I wasn't rooting for Judah, Judah's a bigger biatch than Floyd!
I can't pick one to be honest. And I don't see how anyone can be completely sold on PBF for this fight, should it happen. Mayweather is extremely talented, somewhat untested (not as untested as many like to say), but untested compared to Oscar. Also, Mayweather is just settling into these higher weights, DLH has fought big names in all of these weight classes, and has always, at the very least, held his own.
Mayweather out does DLH in speed, perhaps in defensive skills as well. DLH totally outmatches PBF in power though. DLH also is more experienced, and if it came down to a close fight where they were both giving it their all... I think DLH is more durable. I am not sure what PBF would do if he got caught, hurt, or dropped.
I was not interested in this fight at all... but I think I have overlooked DLH far too easily. He is a great fighter, and he would give PBF his greatest test. DLH could fight like Castillo, except bring more size, power, speed, defense, combination punching, experience, and durability.
Tough call.
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at 147...oscar eats rights all night long and will chase floyd around the ring enroute to losing a UD
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Oscar will get absolutely embarassed by mayweather. He was made to look good by fighting Mayorga just as tito was.
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You cant really judge how this fight goes after saturdays performance, where we saw a very skilled fighter in Dela Hoya just outsmart a very average boxer with power, which was Oscar's plan from day one of making this fight, Mayorga was there to make Dela Hoya look good, Mayweather is too much for Dela Hoya at this stage of his career for me anyway. Mayweather UD
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Any fight Delahoya wants, he gets.
He'll get this fight cause Mayweather wants it too.
He'll get his ass kicked tho ::**
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i honestly think this is a very bad stylistic matchup for PBF. a guy who is much taller, with longer reach, and good jab and a willingness to throw to the body. PBF has never faced anyone like ODLH before and i think he would be in for a rude awakening. PBF has nothing to hurt oscar with and we saw that at 147 his hands arent that blindingly fast that dlh cant matchup well. i think DLH wins easy and by kayo.
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I know they set the Mayorga match up because they thought Oscar would beat him, but he looked much more impressive than anyone thought he would.
The speed of his combo's was pretty amazing, and he has apparently picked up some power. If Judah was able to get to Floyd in the early rounds, then Oscar won't have a problem getting to him.
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Oscar would win the fight.
Floyd beat some people but never fought anybody like ODLH, and when you are in the Ring the truth comes to ya REAL fast. He will get confused when he fights a guy that pressures him like Castillo but actually KNOWS how to box and has good defense and Handspeed.
He has MORE then enough power and combination punching to beat floyd and he has JUST enough Speed to do it...
ODLH by K.O.....
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this will be a great fight. if both fighters are in peak condition i give it to dlh by decision. mayweather will have speed, dlh will have size power and reach. good fight though. and the winner should fight mosley if he beats vargas. imo ;)
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Let me gaze into my crystal ball...
I think PBF vs ODLH would be a classic chess match and will probably take place at a catch weight for the WBC 154 championship. I see PBF moving in and out using that jab to the stomach and using right hand leads. I see ODLH trying to throw those right-left combos everytime PBF comes in but being too late each time. I see Floyd winning 5 of the first 7 rounds. I see ODLH pressuring PBF more and more in rounds 8-10 and backing PBF against the ropes and landing a lot of blows that land on the shoulders, chest, and gloves. I see ODLH winning those rounds. I see PBF opening up more and more as he senses ODLH is tiring and is willing to trade with ODLH in the championship rounds. I see PBF getting caught by a left hook late in round 11 but being able to hang on until the end of the round. I see PBF coming out and sticking and moving while ODLH is eager to trade, I see PBF using that jab to the stomach and his speed to stay away from ODLH's left hook for round 12. I see judge Duane Ford scoring the fight 115-113 for ODLH. I see judge Julie Lederman scoring the fight 116-112 for PBF. I see judge Dave Moretti scoring the fight 115-113 for your winner by split decision...
AND NEW JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WOOORRRRLLD!!!,
PRETTY BOY FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!! ;D
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Before the weekends bout i had Mayweather embarrasing De La Hoya but he looked interested and fit again so now i duno so much. I think it comes down to De La Hoyas power vs Floyds speed. I still pick Floyd by UD.
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Originally Posted by Jman76
We've heard rumors about this fight but of course, it might not even take place. But assuming they would fight,who would win? why?
First I'd like to say that it would not be the boring fight some of you think it will be UNLESS Floyd runs. I never quite understood why you guys just pick Floyd without much thought. He's a great boxer who has great speed but he can't really knockout guys like Vargas, Oscar, Trinidad,Mayorga, etc... I see the outcome of this fight like the Forrest / Mayorga one...I'm not at all comparing Oscar with Mayorga ( NOT AT ALL...haha ) or Forrest with Floyd but I think it's similar in the way that everyone is quickly picking Floyd to win...just like Forrest would easily beat Mayorga(or so they thought).
If Floyd trades with Oscar, he goes down!! I don't see Floyd hurting Oscar and much less a KO against him. If it goes all the way, It can go either way. It would be GREAT to see Floyd get KOed, he talks too much sh*t.
So my pick: Oscar by KO
Yes I dislike Floyd Jr. but I wasn't rooting for Judah, Judah's a bigger biatch than Floyd!
if the fight is at 154 I could see ODLH getting the KO on PBF..if the fight is at 147 it could go either way but I would still think ODLH has the advantage in power and overall bigger fighter....but at 147 floyd will have the speed...I don't think floyd can effectivly carry 154.....and how he carries 147 against those powerful shots is still in the air...Judah got to him in the first few rounds but PBF adapted wonderfully and Zab quit fighting....his punch totals became abismal and he quit going to the body...so who knows if PBF can stand up to a well executed gameplan coming from a 147-154 lb fighter i.e ODLH....
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Floyd should beat Oscar fairly easily.
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Floyd should beat Oscar fairly easily.
How? Why?
Fairly easily??!! :lolhaha:
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If it happens...& it won't...I would imagine it playing out about like Mosley Oscar II but a bit closer to score.
Floyd being faster than Mosley if he can carry the weight to 154...but having less power to stun Oscar than Mosley had.
It's be a great fight...but I really really think that Oscar would spend his time following Floyd & eating straight rights all night long.
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At 154 and what oscar showed the other night, I really really would put money on him.
But after 8 rounds?
ODLH fades, PBF picks up.
Oscar not gonna jab throught hose Winning balloon gloves ;D
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Why does everyone think that PBF will stand at let oscar size him early on? that was the strategy against judah because he knew that was judah's best strategy to be a front runner...trust me the strategy against de la hoya would be vastly altered.....oscar is too accurate with his right hand for floyd to stand still...
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Floyd vs Oscar wouldn't be as close as Mosely-Oscar. Floyd would outpoint him much easier. Oscar beats a guy who is nowhere near Floyd, and everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon. I hope you clowns can hear how silly you sound.
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Floyd vs Oscar wouldn't be as close as Mosely-Oscar. Floyd would outpoint him much easier. Oscar beats a guy who is nowhere near Floyd, and everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon. I hope you clowns can hear how silly you sound.
No...I think the people you are referring to are saying that a guy that beats, mayorga,campas, vargas (on steroids), Castillejo, Gatti, Carr, and Quartey definitely has a legitimit shot at hanging with and beating PBF if the fights at 154...and maybe even at 147....does that sound silly to you now? If so I think we all know who the clown might be....but If you agree with this I think we know where we are coming from now...and all is forgiven...
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Floyd vs Oscar wouldn't be as close as Mosely-Oscar. Floyd would outpoint him much easier. Oscar beats a guy who is nowhere near Floyd, and everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon. I hope you clowns can hear how silly you sound.
No...I think the people you are referring to are saying that a guy that beats, mayorga,campas, vargas (on steroids), Castillejo, Gatti, Carr, and Quartey definitely has a legitimit shot at hanging with and beating PBF if the fights at 154...and maybe even at 147....does that sound silly to you now? If so I think we all know who the clown might be....but If you agree with this I think we know where we are coming from now...and all is forgiven...
At any weight Oscar has a chance with anyone. He's alot older and his age would be badly exposed if he fought Floyd, then you'd be thinking I was wrong. Mayorga was hand picked to make Oscar look good. If you can't see that then you are blind. Oscar didn't look fast against an old-ass Hopkins, so why would he be able to all of a sudden hang with the fastest guy out there. All punchers have a chance, and Oscar has always had a chance. But, Oscar beat all those guys a LONG TIME AGO! If a person uses the Mayorga fight to measure what Oscar would look like against Floyd, then you are a clown, and have no boxing knowledge. Floyd would beat all of those guys you mentioned above. I don't find that outstanding. Floyd would beat Mosely too. Like I said, Oscar has always had a chance, but he's lost to every guy he fought who is similar to Floyd{Mosely, and should have lost to Pernell}, and he's only dimenished, not gotten better. Now, do you think he has that good of a chance? Punchers chance, sure. That's about it.
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floyd wins UD at 147
oscar kos floyd at 154
i win, you lose
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I couldn't see this fight going at 154 in Floyd's case. He would need at least 6 months to a year to fully grow to 154. Floyd won't bend too far and put himself in jeopardy. Oscar has voiced that he wants the fight at 147. I'm sure he'll change his mind, because he won't win at 147. I'd like to see this fight happen so Floyd can retire Oscar, and then destroy Tony. However, I doubt more and more that Oscar-Floyd will happen. Hopefully they decide soon so alot of good fighters aren't inactive awaiting Oscar's decisions.
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Oscar didn't look fast against an old-a** Hopkins, so why would he be able to all of a sudden hang with the fastest guy out there.
Floyd would beat all of those guys you mentioned above. I don't find that outstanding. Floyd would beat Mosely too. Like I said, Oscar has always had a chance, but he's lost to every guy he fought who is similar to Floyd{Mosely, and should have lost to Pernell}, and he's only dimenished, not gotten better. Now, do you think he has that good of a chance? Punchers chance, sure. That's about it.
I think your being a little harsh on Oscar eh... fact is fighters lose speed as they move up in weight. I think Oscar gained some moving back down to 154 and I think Floyd lost some moving up to 147, do you honestly think Floyd won't lose anymore if he keeps moving up?
How could you be so sure Floyd could hang with any of the big names Oscar fought above 140 when the only 2 names Floyd has above 140 are Mitchell and Judah, who only moved up to 147 because Kostya destroyed them both and cleaned house.
Oscar totally outboxed Mosley in the rematch at 154 it was only Mosely's single power shots that won the judges over and face it power is something Floyd ain't going to have at 154. ;)
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Oscar didn't look fast against an old-a** Hopkins, so why would he be able to all of a sudden hang with the fastest guy out there.
Floyd would beat all of those guys you mentioned above. I don't find that outstanding. Floyd would beat Mosely too. Like I said, Oscar has always had a chance, but he's lost to every guy he fought who is similar to Floyd{Mosely, and should have lost to Pernell}, and he's only dimenished, not gotten better. Now, do you think he has that good of a chance? Punchers chance, sure. That's about it.
I think your being a little harsh on Oscar eh... fact is fighters lose speed as they move up in weight. I think Oscar gained some moving back down to 154 and I think Floyd lost some moving up to 147, do you honestly think Floyd won't lose anymore if he keeps moving up?
How could you be so sure Floyd could hang with any of the big names Oscar fought above 140 when the only 2 names Floyd has above 140 are Mitchell and Judah, who only moved up to 147 because Kostya destroyed them both and cleaned house.
Oscar totally outboxed Mosley in the rematch at 154 it was only Mosely's single power shots that won the judges over and face it power is something Floyd ain't going to have at 154. ;)
If Floyd jumps to 154 right now, without being at 147 for a full year, he's not as smart as he portrays. I seriously doubt the fight would be at 154. When Floyd fought Mitchell and Jab, he stalked them, that's why he didn't look as fast. Against Oscar, he'll be on his wheels. That's the thing about Floyd though. Early in his career, he always fought inside, and didn't move as much. He has the uncanny ability to do both. Oscar was out of his weight at 160, but BHOP is as slow as a snail, and was still as fast as Oscar. I may sound like I'm being harsh on Oscar, but I'm just not convinced because he beat Mayorga. I also know Floyd will fill out and be able to handle all of the same opponents that Oscar and Shane has fought. All three{OSC, Shane, and PBF} all started about the same weight, and everyone wondered if Oscar and Shane could handle the weight. Why can't Floyd? I don't think that Floyd has lost as much speed as people think. Floyd has just become more conservative. Typical good vs bad. Everyone wants to see Floyd lose, and who better to beat him than Oscar. That has blurred the vision of some. Oscar is getting older, while Floyd is getting better. I think Oscar should pass on this fight for his sake. Unless he can convince Floyd to fight now, at at least 154.
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Oscar didn't look fast against an old-a** Hopkins, so why would he be able to all of a sudden hang with the fastest guy out there.
Floyd would beat all of those guys you mentioned above. I don't find that outstanding. Floyd would beat Mosely too. Like I said, Oscar has always had a chance, but he's lost to every guy he fought who is similar to Floyd{Mosely, and should have lost to Pernell}, and he's only dimenished, not gotten better. Now, do you think he has that good of a chance? Punchers chance, sure. That's about it.
I think your being a little harsh on Oscar eh... fact is fighters lose speed as they move up in weight. I think Oscar gained some moving back down to 154 and I think Floyd lost some moving up to 147, do you honestly think Floyd won't lose anymore if he keeps moving up?
How could you be so sure Floyd could hang with any of the big names Oscar fought above 140 when the only 2 names Floyd has above 140 are Mitchell and Judah, who only moved up to 147 because Kostya destroyed them both and cleaned house.
Oscar totally outboxed Mosley in the rematch at 154 it was only Mosely's single power shots that won the judges over and face it power is something Floyd ain't going to have at 154. ;)
If Floyd jumps to 154 right now, without being at 147 for a full year, he's not as smart as he portrays. I seriously doubt the fight would be at 154. When Floyd fought Mitchell and Jab, he stalked them, that's why he didn't look as fast. Against Oscar, he'll be on his wheels. That's the thing about Floyd though. Early in his career, he always fought inside, and didn't move as much. He has the uncanny ability to do both. Oscar was out of his weight at 160, but BHOP is as slow as a snail, and was still as fast as Oscar. I may sound like I'm being harsh on Oscar, but I'm just not convinced because he beat Mayorga. I also know Floyd will fill out and be able to handle all of the same opponents that Oscar and Shane has fought. All three{OSC, Shane, and PBF} all started about the same weight, and everyone wondered if Oscar and Shane could handle the weight. Why can't Floyd? I don't think that Floyd has lost as much speed as people think. Floyd has just become more conservative. Typical good vs bad. Everyone wants to see Floyd lose, and who better to beat him than Oscar. That has blurred the vision of some. Oscar is getting older, while Floyd is getting better. I think Oscar should pass on this fight for his sake. Unless he can convince Floyd to fight now, at at least 154.
well it wasn't that long ago that your boy said 154 was as high as he would go even calling out Winky Wright and Oscar did just pick up Floyd's beloved WBC version of 154. Oscar on the other hand as far as I know has not talked about moving any lower than 154... If that is incorrect then let me know. So to me it stands to reason the fight would be staged at 154. Down the road Floyd could very well be a great Welterweight but right now I think he is biting off more than he can chew. ;D
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Oscar didn't look fast against an old-a** Hopkins, so why would he be able to all of a sudden hang with the fastest guy out there.
Floyd would beat all of those guys you mentioned above. I don't find that outstanding. Floyd would beat Mosely too. Like I said, Oscar has always had a chance, but he's lost to every guy he fought who is similar to Floyd{Mosely, and should have lost to Pernell}, and he's only dimenished, not gotten better. Now, do you think he has that good of a chance? Punchers chance, sure. That's about it.
I think your being a little harsh on Oscar eh... fact is fighters lose speed as they move up in weight. I think Oscar gained some moving back down to 154 and I think Floyd lost some moving up to 147, do you honestly think Floyd won't lose anymore if he keeps moving up?
How could you be so sure Floyd could hang with any of the big names Oscar fought above 140 when the only 2 names Floyd has above 140 are Mitchell and Judah, who only moved up to 147 because Kostya destroyed them both and cleaned house.
Oscar totally outboxed Mosley in the rematch at 154 it was only Mosely's single power shots that won the judges over and face it power is something Floyd ain't going to have at 154. ;)
If Floyd jumps to 154 right now, without being at 147 for a full year, he's not as smart as he portrays. I seriously doubt the fight would be at 154. When Floyd fought Mitchell and Jab, he stalked them, that's why he didn't look as fast. Against Oscar, he'll be on his wheels. That's the thing about Floyd though. Early in his career, he always fought inside, and didn't move as much. He has the uncanny ability to do both. Oscar was out of his weight at 160, but BHOP is as slow as a snail, and was still as fast as Oscar. I may sound like I'm being harsh on Oscar, but I'm just not convinced because he beat Mayorga. I also know Floyd will fill out and be able to handle all of the same opponents that Oscar and Shane has fought. All three{OSC, Shane, and PBF} all started about the same weight, and everyone wondered if Oscar and Shane could handle the weight. Why can't Floyd? I don't think that Floyd has lost as much speed as people think. Floyd has just become more conservative. Typical good vs bad. Everyone wants to see Floyd lose, and who better to beat him than Oscar. That has blurred the vision of some. Oscar is getting older, while Floyd is getting better. I think Oscar should pass on this fight for his sake. Unless he can convince Floyd to fight now, at at least 154.
well it wasn't that long ago that your boy said 154 was as high as he would go even calling out Winky Wright and Oscar did just pick up Floyd's beloved WBC version of 154. Oscar on the other hand as far as I know has not talked about moving any lower than 154... If that is incorrect then let me know. So to me it stands to reason the fight would be staged at 154. Down the road Floyd could very well be a great Welterweight but right now I think he is biting off more than he can chew. ;D
Before the Judah-Floyd fight, Oscar released a statement in the L.A. Times{might be the wrong paper, but it was posted}, saying that he was training at 154, and would like to finish his career at 147, saying he was at his best at 147. Then he mentioned that he would like to fight Floyd at that weight for his last fight ever.
I'm sure that Oscar realizes that his best shot is at 154. As for Floyd, I know what he said, but I think that was alot of hot air, not truth. I'd hope that Floyd wouldn't reach too far. We'll see. I wouldn't count Floyd out at 154, in fact I'd still favor him, but fighting at 154 would even a bit for Oscar. Money will decide what happens.
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I don't see them ever fighting.
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Oscar didn't look fast against an old-a** Hopkins, so why would he be able to all of a sudden hang with the fastest guy out there.
Floyd would beat all of those guys you mentioned above. I don't find that outstanding. Floyd would beat Mosely too. Like I said, Oscar has always had a chance, but he's lost to every guy he fought who is similar to Floyd{Mosely, and should have lost to Pernell}, and he's only dimenished, not gotten better. Now, do you think he has that good of a chance? Punchers chance, sure. That's about it.
I think your being a little harsh on Oscar eh... fact is fighters lose speed as they move up in weight. I think Oscar gained some moving back down to 154 and I think Floyd lost some moving up to 147, do you honestly think Floyd won't lose anymore if he keeps moving up?
How could you be so sure Floyd could hang with any of the big names Oscar fought above 140 when the only 2 names Floyd has above 140 are Mitchell and Judah, who only moved up to 147 because Kostya destroyed them both and cleaned house.
Oscar totally outboxed Mosley in the rematch at 154 it was only Mosely's single power shots that won the judges over and face it power is something Floyd ain't going to have at 154. ;)
If Floyd jumps to 154 right now, without being at 147 for a full year, he's not as smart as he portrays. I seriously doubt the fight would be at 154. When Floyd fought Mitchell and Jab, he stalked them, that's why he didn't look as fast. Against Oscar, he'll be on his wheels. That's the thing about Floyd though. Early in his career, he always fought inside, and didn't move as much. He has the uncanny ability to do both. Oscar was out of his weight at 160, but BHOP is as slow as a snail, and was still as fast as Oscar. I may sound like I'm being harsh on Oscar, but I'm just not convinced because he beat Mayorga. I also know Floyd will fill out and be able to handle all of the same opponents that Oscar and Shane has fought. All three{OSC, Shane, and PBF} all started about the same weight, and everyone wondered if Oscar and Shane could handle the weight. Why can't Floyd? I don't think that Floyd has lost as much speed as people think. Floyd has just become more conservative. Typical good vs bad. Everyone wants to see Floyd lose, and who better to beat him than Oscar. That has blurred the vision of some. Oscar is getting older, while Floyd is getting better. I think Oscar should pass on this fight for his sake. Unless he can convince Floyd to fight now, at at least 154.
well it wasn't that long ago that your boy said 154 was as high as he would go even calling out Winky Wright and Oscar did just pick up Floyd's beloved WBC version of 154. Oscar on the other hand as far as I know has not talked about moving any lower than 154... If that is incorrect then let me know. So to me it stands to reason the fight would be staged at 154. Down the road Floyd could very well be a great Welterweight but right now I think he is biting off more than he can chew. ;D
Before the Judah-Floyd fight, Oscar released a statement in the L.A. Times{might be the wrong paper, but it was posted}, saying that he was training at 154, and would like to finish his career at 147, saying he was at his best at 147. Then he mentioned that he would like to fight Floyd at that weight for his last fight ever.
I'm sure that Oscar realizes that his best shot is at 154. As for Floyd, I know what he said, but I think that was alot of hot air, not truth. I'd hope that Floyd wouldn't reach too far. We'll see. I wouldn't count Floyd out at 154, in fact I'd still favor him, but fighting at 154 would even a bit for Oscar. Money will decide what happens.
The problem for Floyd is he don't have a belt at 147 Oscar will surely want to be fighting in a championship for his last, also pops don't want it and Oscar said he will respect Snr's opinion. It won't be Tony because of Arum, it wont be Winky because he is too big, Trinidad say's he isn't coming back, could it possibly be Ricky Hatton?
That is my official prediction for Oscar's last fight!!
Oscar Dela Hoya v Ricky Hatton ;D
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I don't see them ever fighting.
ASSUME they would fight, who would win? why?
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If it happens...& it won't...I would imagine it playing out about like Mosley Oscar II but a bit closer to score.
Floyd being faster than Mosley if he can carry the weight to 154...but having less power to stun Oscar than Mosley had.
It's be a great fight...but I really really think that Oscar would spend his time following Floyd & eating straight rights all night long.
I don't think PBF wins at 154....I think that weight is far too much for PBF to handle....I think his speed would disappear....and his power would go.....But if it's at 147 I think PBF has a chance....but ODLH has a better one...
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Oscar will get absolutely embarassed by mayweather. He was made to look good by fighting Mayorga just as tito was.
The Tito-Mayorga parallel is potentially problematic for Oscar, but I believe DeLaHoya is a more complete fighter than Tito (who was badly exposed by B-Hop) and will still give Floyd a very tough fight! The thing that really impressed me in Oscar-Mayorga was DLH's ability to hurt Mayorga earlier and more often than Tito, while absorbing Mayorga's power shots better than Tito...I think Oscar has alot more left in the tank now than Tito did when he beat Mayorga, then got so surprisingly dominated by Winky!!
I have Oscar a slight favorite at 154, tossup at 150 and Floyd a slight favorite at 147!!