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http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=8253
;D
You predicted the top result would have a Red "L" next to it.....
And you were WRONG.....
Haha....... ;D
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You really have nothing better to do with your time do you :-\ very sad
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c'mon no need to rub it in.
starrs made thousands of valid posts in the past and she will continue to do so in the future.
if i was right for every prediction i made i wouldnt ever be on here id be in the bookies.
now lets all move on from ODLH last weekend and look forward to Hatton next weekend
or i'll fuck ya all up
;D
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You really have nothing better to do with your time do you :-\ very sad
Did you have anything better to do with your time, than post stupid, worthless predicitons? ;D
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lets just drop it shall we, or every sunday the boards gonna be flooded with stick being handed out to all of those who were wrong the night before
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lets just drop it shall we, or every sunday the boards gonna be flooded with stick being handed out to all of those who were wrong the night before
Ummm No lets not, because it was great hearing starr and hulk continual put down Oscar, and go on how they hate him and how is a pussy and how the great powerful Mayorga would knock him out.
Oh how wrong they were, oscar is a great, one of the greatest ever..
So I will carry on thanks.....
I am so happy he proved them both to be idiots..... ;D
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Originally Posted by Starr
You really have nothing better to do with your time do you :-\ very sad
Did you have anything better to do with your time, than post stupid, worthless predicitons? ;D
If they are stupid and worthless, what does that make you for dwelling on them? Must make you even worse then I guess.
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Originally Posted by beds
lets just drop it shall we, or every sunday the boards gonna be flooded with stick being handed out to all of those who were wrong the night before
Ummm No lets not, because it was great hearing starr and hulk continual put down Oscar, and go on how they hate him and how is a pussy and how the great powerful Mayorga would knock him out.
Oh how wrong they were, oscar is a great, one of the greatest ever..
So I will carry on thanks.....
I am so happy he proved them both to be idiots..... ;D
Find something negative I said about Oscar about this fight :)
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He would lose, thats pretty damn negative.....
Im dwelling on this predcition, cuz it makes me laugh. Any person who knew 1% about boxing could see Oscar was going to school the idiot......
Except you....
Haha ;D
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The fact that the only reasoning you have that I put Oscar down was picking against him is pretty pathetic ;)
You need something better then that if you want to say I was soo against Oscar or you are just blowing things out of proportion to make yourself seem smarter. just because you shout sentences doesn't mean they make sense. And you're not making any. You should stop now before you get embarrassed.
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There's no way that Mayorga at his best beats a ready-to-rumble Oscar.
Anyone who picked Oscar to win had to be speculating big-time about him not 'being hungry' or being 'too rusty' or being 'too old.'
There's no other reason in the world to expect Oscar to lose to such as Mayorga.
All Oscar had to do was be there, be ready, and care. He obviously did.
What I want to know is what was the basis, besides sheer imaginative speculation, for anyone reasoning that DLH was not hungry, or was rusty or was too old?
Not a thing. Not a gosh-durn thing. :P
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He would lose, thats pretty damn negative.....
Im dwelling on this predcition, cuz it makes me laugh. Any person who knew 1% about boxing could see Oscar was going to school the idiot......
Except you....
Haha ;D
i must know very little about boxing then :(
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What I want to know is what was the basis, besides sheer imaginative speculation, for anyone reasoning that DLH was not hungry, or was rusty or was too old?
Not a thing. Not a gosh-durn thing. :P
Come on, that's not fair. Rusty - hadn't fought a fight in a year and a half. Too old - lost all three of the fights he'd fought in the last 3 years (because he didn't beat Sturm).
The dumb move was going from that to predicting that a hand-picked idiot who can't fight would have a shot at beating ODH anyway. I still think Oscar's past his prime--but I'd take a past-his-prime ODH every single time against a non-elite, undisciplined, no-defense talker like Mayorga.
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You should stop now before you get embarrassed.
By someone who cant admit they couldnt predict Oscar to Beat MayorgA......
Doubt it...... :D
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Could i also ask
How come you keep saying to Wacko your leaving.....
yet never do, and find it neccesary to keep digging yourself a hole........because your boy lost?
:D
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Could i also ask
How come you keep saying to Wacko your leaving.....
yet never do, and find it neccesary to keep digging yourself a hole........because your boy lost?
:D
Not supposed to ask such things ... just notice and chuckle ...
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
What I want to know is what was the basis, besides sheer imaginative speculation, for anyone reasoning that DLH was not hungry, or was rusty or was too old?
Not a thing. Not a gosh-durn thing. :P
Come on, that's not fair. Rusty - hadn't fought a fight in a year and a half. Too old -
lost all three of the fights he'd fought in the last 3 years (because he didn't beat Sturm).
The dumb move was going from that to predicting that a hand-picked idiot who can't fight would have a shot at beating ODH anyway. I still think Oscar's past his prime--but I'd take a past-his-prime ODH every single time against a non-elite, undisciplined, no-defense talker like Mayorga.
Well, I think it's fair.
What makes a person rusty? The inability to remember what it's like in the ring when you are training and sparring, so that the 'real deal' seems strange to you. Someone with DLH's experience should not experience such rust even after an extended layoff.
Old: 33 isn't young, but it's not old yet, not if you haven't been beat up a lot. In case you haven't, DLH hasn't been beat up too awful much over the years.
Lost his last three fights? Well, Hopkins ... let it go. It can't count seriously against DLH. He didn't just step up in weight; he stepped up to Hopkins at the same time. Jones stepped up to heavy and won, but it was against a Ruiz, not against Lewis.
Against Sturm ... yeah, it was sloppy. He was sloppy. Had he come in better prepared it would have been different.
Against Mosely ... well, he lost by 2 points on each card in a 12-round UD. He lost to Mosely also in 2000 - six years ago - in a roughly similarly close fight. Was he past his prime then, too, at 27 or so? No? Then why'd he lose to Mosely in a close fight when he was at his prime and in just as close a fight when he was "past" his prime? Huh? Explain it, please!
It's just too easy to pour some numbers and some faulty logic into a blender and come out with "boxing analysis."
I think it was legitimate to <u>wonder</u> about age and ring rust, but to assume ... nothing but such things could have explained a Mayorga win. And if there was significant rust or age, and Mayorga was able to slip in and pound him - then the Mayorga win was possible, even if he doesn't compare to what DLH once was. (Though "still is" ends up being the case, doesn't it?)
So in my book you really haven't got much to stand on when you say that DLH is past his prime. Sure, he's 33, so he must be. But it doesn't look like it matters a whole lot, does it?
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I got your back Starr. Can't pick em all. I know I can't. But I did pick the Kentucky Derby, and won $800.00.
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I got your back Starr. Can't pick em all. I know I can't. But I did pick the Kentucky Derby, and won $800.00.
ive just gone plain dotty with my recent picks..... >:mad
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Could i also ask
How come you keep saying to Wacko your leaving.....
yet never do, and find it neccesary to keep digging yourself a hole........because your boy lost?
:D
I am leaving, and it has nothing to do with who lost or not. Why does it matter to you when I leave? You think you'll be safe because I won't show you to be a fool everytime you try to push me and then PM me apologizing :) You won't be safe if I leave, not frm the other members, despite what you think, I'm one of the legends of this forum and you're not even on my level. As I go easy on you in every debate, ask wacko how rough I can get :) you're getting an easy pass.
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
What I want to know is what was the basis, besides sheer imaginative speculation, for anyone reasoning that DLH was not hungry, or was rusty or was too old?
Not a thing. Not a gosh-durn thing. :P
Come on, that's not fair. Rusty - hadn't fought a fight in a year and a half. Too old -
lost all three of the fights he'd fought in the last 3 years (because he didn't beat Sturm).
The dumb move was going from that to predicting that a hand-picked idiot who can't fight would have a shot at beating ODH anyway. I still think Oscar's past his prime--but I'd take a past-his-prime ODH every single time against a non-elite, undisciplined, no-defense talker like Mayorga.
Against Sturm ... yeah, it was sloppy. He was sloppy. Had he come in better prepared it would have been different.
You do seem to concede that this performance may raise some legitimate questions (chief among them the one begged by your statement, viz., "did he retain the ability to come in better prepared?"). And he didn't do anything to erase these questions by losing against B-Hop, regardless of whether that shouldn't be counted against him because he moved up in weight. And then the next fight was Mayorga.
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
I think it was legitimate to <u>wonder</u> about age and ring rust, but to assume ... nothing but such things could have explained a Mayorga win. And if there was significant rust or age, and Mayorga was able to slip in and pound him - then the Mayorga win was possible, even if he doesn't compare to what DLH once was. (Though "still is" ends up being the case, doesn't it?)
That's all I thought we were talking about--"wondering." Wondering how far past his prime Oscar is now. That's all I was talking about anyway. Note my explicit statement in the post you were responding to that no matter how much you wondered about this, you still shouldn't have been picking Mayorga even 1 out of 10 against ODH, because the guy can't fight (and because there's no way Oscar's THAT far past his prime yet).
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So in my book you really haven't got much to stand on when you say that DLH is past his prime. Sure, he's 33, so he must be. But it doesn't look like it matters a whole lot, does it?
You'll note that I didn't mention his age. 33 is not old. Mayweather is 29. Winky is 34. Oscar's age in years was never the point. As far as whether his pre-Mayorga, uh, slump, "matters a whole lot," I think we'll have to wait until he fights someone as good as the people he was losing to before, rather than a hand-picked chump with zero defense who telegraphs all of his punches. How beating Ricardo Mayorga--who was on exactly no one's p4p list, or general list of elite fighters--suddenly proves that ODH can handle Winky or PBF (as numerous posters have said on these boards) is beyond me. But then again:
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
It's just too easy to throw some numbers and some faulty logic into a blender and come up with "boxing analysis."
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Could i also ask
How come you keep saying to Wacko your leaving.....
yet never do, and find it neccesary to keep digging yourself a hole........because your boy lost?
:D
I am leaving, and it has nothing to do with who lost or not. Why does it matter to you when I leave? You think you'll be safe because I won't show you to be a fool everytime you try to push me and then PM me apologizing :) You won't be safe if I leave, not frm the other members, despite what you think, I'm one of the legends of this forum and you're not even on my level. As I go easy on you in every debate, ask wacko how rough I can get :) you're getting an easy pass.
people can be legendary for a lot of reasons--being constantly wrong and making terrible arguments, for instance. stop talking about it and just leave. please.
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Could i also ask
How come you keep saying to Wacko your leaving.....
yet never do, and find it neccesary to keep digging yourself a hole........because your boy lost?
:D
I am leaving, and it has nothing to do with who lost or not. Why does it matter to you when I leave? You think you'll be safe because I won't show you to be a fool everytime you try to push me and then PM me apologizing :) You won't be safe if I leave, not frm the other members, despite what you think, I'm one of the legends of this forum and you're not even on my level. As I go easy on you in every debate, ask wacko how rough I can get :) you're getting an easy pass.
and you ask him if he has nothing better to do than post one thread.. .
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Originally Posted by Starr
I am leaving, and it has nothing to do with who lost or not. Why does it matter to you when I leave? You think you'll be safe because I won't show you to be a fool everytime you try to push me and then PM me apologizing :) You won't be safe if I leave, not frm the other members, despite what you think, I'm one of the legends of this forum and you're not even on my level. As I go easy on you in every debate, ask wacko how rough I can get :) you're getting an easy pass.
When?
Ive never PMed you, if the admins can check, they will be able to prove....
I wont be safe if you leave?
Safe from what exactly, this is the internet...
A legend on a internet forum? WOW! Please allow me to bow down, if thats the pride you take in your life being a legend of a internet forum, well more fool you..... :D
I dont want to ask Wacko how rough you can get, what you and Wacko do, and how rough you get should be kept behind closed doors..... ;D
If I am an easy pass, why do you keep getting it WRONG! ;D
But then again, your the legend of the forum........ ::**
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
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Originally Posted by Starr
I am leaving, and it has nothing to do with who lost or not. Why does it matter to you when I leave? You think you'll be safe because I won't show you to be a fool everytime you try to push me and then PM me apologizing :) You won't be safe if I leave, not frm the other members, despite what you think, I'm one of the legends of this forum and you're not even on my level. As I go easy on you in every debate, ask wacko how rough I can get :) you're getting an easy pass.
When?
Ive never PMed you, if the admins can check, they will be able to prove....
I wont be safe if you leave?
Safe from what exactly, this is the internet...
A legend on a internet forum? WOW! Please allow me to bow down, if thats the pride you take in your life being a legend of a internet forum, well more fool you..... :D
I dont want to ask Wacko how rough you can get, what you and Wacko do, and how rough you get should be kept behind closed doors..... ;D
If I am an easy pass, why do you keep getting it WRONG! ;D
But then again, your the legend of the forum........ ::**
Alright bitches...stop trying to break out the winky & bring Wacko into this!
Hey...did someone say somethin about breakin out winkies behind closed doors? ;D
In the end...no one person is bigger than the other on the forum. Whether your'e a know it all, a half stepper, or a total douche bag...your'e still a big part of this forum...until you get your ass booted...that being said...
Could you girls, boys, & she-males all let this p!ssing contest go? ;)
We all know that I'm infalliable...but I'm not always right either. ;D Heh heh heh.
Is that how infalliable's spelled? ;D
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
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Originally Posted by Starr
I am leaving, and it has nothing to do with who lost or not. Why does it matter to you when I leave? You think you'll be safe because I won't show you to be a fool everytime you try to push me and then PM me apologizing :) You won't be safe if I leave, not frm the other members, despite what you think, I'm one of the legends of this forum and you're not even on my level. As I go easy on you in every debate, ask wacko how rough I can get :) you're getting an easy pass.
When?
Ive never PMed you, if the admins can check, they will be able to prove....
I wont be safe if you leave?
Safe from what exactly, this is the internet...
A legend on a internet forum? WOW! Please allow me to bow down, if thats the pride you take in your life being a legend of a internet forum, well more fool you..... :D
I dont want to ask Wacko how rough you can get, what you and Wacko do, and how rough you get should be kept behind closed doors..... ;D
If I am an easy pass, why do you keep getting it WRONG! ;D
But then again, your the legend of the forum........ ::**
Alright bitches...stop trying to break out the winky & bring Wacko into this!
Hey...did someone say somethin about breakin out winkies behind closed doors? ;D
In the end...no one person is bigger than the other on the forum. Whether your'e a know it all, a half stepper, or a total douche bag...your'e still a big part of this forum...until you get your ass booted...that being said...
Could you girls, boys, & she-males all let this p!ssing contest go? ;)
We all know that I'm infalliable...but I'm not always right either. ;D Heh heh heh.
Is that how infalliable's spelled? ;D
This is funny and I think it's spelled infallable. I admire you B@rr3r@ but float carefully, you may be "throwing fuel into the flame" like Mayorga ;D
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:D I shall float like Oscar Dela Hoya against Ricardo mayorga, near perfectly....
And Wacko, sorry for using your name in sexual inuendoes! :lickish:
;D ;D ;D ;D
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This is funny and I think it's spelled infallable. I admire you B@rr3r@ but float carefully, you may be "throwing fuel into the flame" like Mayorga ;D
Golly...I knew I shoulda used spell check. ;D
That was supposed to be a weak attempt at humor...I know how to spell...en-fowl-uh-bowl. ;D
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I really enjoy watching ppl blast when there right, and others back peddle when there wrong...I read tons of posts on this forum, and i can honestly say i admire "almost" everyones perspective..
I was rooting for Mayorga, i'm Anti-DLH through and through...Santan himself could be in the blue corner and i still would root against DLH...Thats just who i am...9 times out of 10 i would even catch myself putting money where my mouth is...losing of course, but thats beside the point..
DLH had every tool known to man to beat a very un-impressive BOXER...yea he's a fun brawler to watch, but lets get real, his defense, combinations, and balance were embarressing to everyone rooting for Him...And this is not the fight to glorify ODLH's skills or his career..
Hip hip horray for the DLH fans..but lets just move on from this pitiful matchup....shall we
FOR A QUICK FINAL POINT>>>>>> Most ppl who chose Ricardo WEREN"T picking Mayorga to win, they were hoping for DLH to lose....
Very similar to John Kerry and George Bush....
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Very similar to John Kerry and George Bush....
Dont bring polictics into this or we really will have a debate on our hands! ;D
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And Wacko, sorry for using your name in sexual inuendoes! :lickish:
in-u-end-o! :puke: ;D
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Originally Posted by cnote111
Very similar to John Kerry and George Bush....
Dont bring polictics into this or we really will have a debate on our hands! ;D
HAHA...very true....my bad...but i'm sure if you ask Kerry voters why they voted..you'll get the same answers if you ask a person who picked Mayorga....
Answer----- I HATE THE OTHER GUY!!!! :shrug03:
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In this scenario calculated predictors use....
My head says Oscar
My heart says Mayorga
;D
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Alright you little bitch. Let's get something straight Oscar is not GOD and neither is your boy Barrera. Barrera was destroyed and pummelled by Pacquaio, and what has he done since? Has he sought redemption by demanding a rematch with Pac Man? No. He has beaten up on Paulie Ayala, Robbie Peden and now soon to be Rocky Juarez. And as for Oscar, he ran from Tito, lost to Sugar Shane twice, and took a dive against the Executioner. Ain't nobody perfect, so shut your damn mouth. You and 90% of the boxing world picked Oscar to beat Mayorga, congratulations. I stood nearly alone and picked my favorite fighter to win, and he didn't, and it was a terrible loss. I don't need little punks like you tryin to rub it in mine and others faces.
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Alright you little bitch. Let's get something straight Oscar is not GOD and neither is your boy Barrera. Barrera was destroyed and pummelled by Pacquaio, and what has he done since? Has he sought redemption by demanding a rematch with Pac Man? No. He has beaten up on Paulie Ayala, Robbie Peden and now soon to be Rocky Juarez. And as for Oscar, he ran from Tito, lost to Sugar Shane twice, and took a dive against the Executioner. Ain't nobody perfect, so shut your damn mouth. You and 90% of the boxing world picked Oscar to beat Mayorga, congratulations. I stood nearly alone and picked my favorite fighter to win, and he didn't, and it was a terrible loss. I don't need little punks like you tryin to rub it in mine and others faces.
I agree with you 98.27% ....its just the anger part is where you lost me...No worries bro
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Alright you little bitch. Let's get something straight Oscar is not GOD and neither is your boy Barrera. Barrera was destroyed and pummelled by Pacquaio, and what has he done since? Has he sought redemption by demanding a rematch with Pac Man? No. He has beaten up on Paulie Ayala, Robbie Peden and now soon to be Rocky Juarez. And as for Oscar, he ran from Tito, lost to Sugar Shane twice, and took a dive against the Executioner. Ain't nobody perfect, so shut your damn mouth. You and 90% of the boxing world picked Oscar to beat Mayorga, congratulations. I stood nearly alone and picked my favorite fighter to win, and he didn't, and it was a terrible loss. I don't need little punks like you tryin to rub it in mine and others faces.
Whoa did'nt mommy make packed lunch for you today...Haha
You need to lay off the E numbers ;D
Barrera has accomplished wayyyyyyyyy more than Paqauio in his career, WAY more. But what has this got to do with anything.
Oscar has done way more than anyone he has ever boxed, so?
Face it YOU got it WRONG and now your acting like a little kid cursing and all because you look silly for predicting a trash talking bum!
HAHAHAH!
And
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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What I want to know is what was the basis, besides sheer imaginative speculation, for anyone reasoning that DLH was not hungry, or was rusty or was too old?
Not a thing. Not a gosh-durn thing. :P
Come on, that's not fair. Rusty - hadn't fought a fight in a year and a half. Too old -
lost all three of the fights he'd fought in the last 3 years (because he didn't beat Sturm).
The dumb move was going from that to predicting that a hand-picked idiot who can't fight would have a shot at beating ODH anyway. I still think Oscar's past his prime--but I'd take a past-his-prime ODH every single time against a non-elite, undisciplined, no-defense talker like Mayorga.
Against Sturm ... yeah, it was sloppy. He was sloppy. Had he come in better prepared it would have been different.
You do seem to concede that this performance may raise some legitimate questions (chief among them the one begged by your statement, viz., "did he retain the ability to come in better prepared?"). And he didn't do anything to erase these questions by losing against B-Hop, regardless of whether that shouldn't be counted against him because he moved up in weight. And then the next fight was Mayorga.
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I think it was legitimate to <u>wonder</u> about age and ring rust, but to assume ... nothing but such things could have explained a Mayorga win. And if there was significant rust or age, and Mayorga was able to slip in and pound him - then the Mayorga win was possible, even if he doesn't compare to what DLH once was. (Though "still is" ends up being the case, doesn't it?)
That's all I thought we were talking about--"wondering." Wondering how far past his prime Oscar is now. That's all I was talking about anyway. Note my explicit statement in the post you were responding to that no matter how much you wondered about this, you still shouldn't have been picking Mayorga even 1 out of 10 against ODH, because the guy can't fight (and because there's no way Oscar's THAT far past his prime yet).
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So in my book you really haven't got much to stand on when you say that DLH is past his prime. Sure, he's 33, so he must be. But it doesn't look like it matters a whole lot, does it?
You'll note that I didn't mention his age. 33 is not old. Mayweather is 29. Winky is 34. Oscar's age in years was never the point. As far as whether his pre-Mayorga, uh, slump, "matters a whole lot," I think we'll have to wait until he fights someone as good as the people he was losing to before, rather than a hand-picked chump with zero defense who telegraphs all of his punches. How beating Ricardo Mayorga--who was on exactly no one's p4p list, or general list of elite fighters--suddenly proves that ODH can handle Winky or PBF (as numerous posters have said on these boards) is beyond me. But then again:
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It's just too easy to throw some numbers and some faulty logic into a blender and come up with "boxing analysis."
I concede that the Sturm fight was not Oscar at his best. But it didn't really raise questions for me about Oscar's ability any more than did Lennox-Rahman. It raised questions about how he viewed his opponent and how prepared he didn't come. Lennox' performance four months later could have been replicated by Oscar against Sturm had Oscar prepared for Sturm as he had for Mayorga. Those are the things I think about that fight.
Yes, you didn't mention age per se. But you want to use the last three fights as a way to measure age. Hopkins doesn't count. Sturm was lack of preparation. Mosely was very much like the DLH-Mosely of 2000 and btw I thought Oscar took the second fight. But even if he didn't he was operating at a level of DLH at his prime.
As for my last moderately snide comment about throwing some numbers and an opinion into a blender and getting back boxing analysis - I guess I'm just as capable of that as any.
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Re: Starr - A Link You Might Like To Look At......
Keep talking. Please keep talking. You're just digging a hole. :) keep talking rookie.
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Re: Starr - A Link You Might Like To Look At......
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Alright you little bitch. Let's get something straight Oscar is not GOD and neither is your boy Barrera. Barrera was destroyed and pummelled by Pacquaio, and what has he done since? Has he sought redemption by demanding a rematch with Pac Man? No. He has beaten up on Paulie Ayala, Robbie Peden and now soon to be Rocky Juarez. And as for Oscar, he ran from Tito, lost to Sugar Shane twice, and took a dive against the Executioner. Ain't nobody perfect, so shut your damn mouth. You and 90% of the boxing world picked Oscar to beat Mayorga, congratulations. I stood nearly alone and picked my favorite fighter to win, and he didn't, and it was a terrible loss. I don't need little punks like you tryin to rub it in mine and others faces.
Whoa did'nt mommy make packed lunch for you today...Haha
You need to lay off the E numbers ;D
Barrera has accomplished wayyyyyyyyy more than Paqauio in his career, WAY more. But what has this got to do with anything.
Oscar has done way more than anyone he has ever boxed, so?
Face it YOU got it WRONG and now your acting like a little kid cursing and all because you look silly for predicting a trash talking bum!
HAHAHAH!
And
It has everything to do with the situation. I was pointing out that everyone's favorite fighter loses sometime, including yours, your royal hineass. And I'll bet you were none too happy about it when Pac man kicked Barrera's ass.
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Re: Starr - A Link You Might Like To Look At......
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Alright you little bitch. Let's get something straight Oscar is not GOD and neither is your boy Barrera. Barrera was destroyed and pummelled by Pacquaio, and what has he done since? Has he sought redemption by demanding a rematch with Pac Man? No. He has beaten up on Paulie Ayala, Robbie Peden and now soon to be Rocky Juarez. And as for Oscar, he ran from Tito, lost to Sugar Shane twice, and took a dive against the Executioner. Ain't nobody perfect, so shut your damn mouth. You and 90% of the boxing world picked Oscar to beat Mayorga, congratulations. I stood nearly alone and picked my favorite fighter to win, and he didn't, and it was a terrible loss. I don't need little punks like you tryin to rub it in mine and others faces.
im on hulks side here. its good when you predict a fighter to win, and its okay to tease someone a little because they got a pick wrong, but there is a limit to how far people should take it. there is a great variety of posters who back different types of fighters on this site. people dont always get it right. its part of showing some maturity not to over step the line when taunting someone who got it wrong. its just mean and petty. when a person sees their favorite fighter lose its okay to mock a little but know the limits, and show empathy because your favorite fighter is most likely to lose at some point in the future too. it all comes around and its not nice when its your turn.....
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Re: Starr - A Link You Might Like To Look At......
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Alright you little bitch. Let's get something straight Oscar is not GOD and neither is your boy Barrera. Barrera was destroyed and pummelled by Pacquaio, and what has he done since? Has he sought redemption by demanding a rematch with Pac Man? No. He has beaten up on Paulie Ayala, Robbie Peden and now soon to be Rocky Juarez. And as for Oscar, he ran from Tito, lost to Sugar Shane twice, and took a dive against the Executioner. Ain't nobody perfect, so shut your damn mouth. You and 90% of the boxing world picked Oscar to beat Mayorga, congratulations. I stood nearly alone and picked my favorite fighter to win, and he didn't, and it was a terrible loss. I don't need little punks like you tryin to rub it in mine and others faces.
im on hulks side here. its good when you predict a fighter to win, and its okay to tease someone a little because they got a pick wrong, but there is a limit to how far people should take it. there is a great variety of posters who back different types of fighters on this site. people dont always get it right. its part of showing some maturity not to over step the line when taunting someone who got it wrong. its just mean and petty. when a person sees their favorite fighter lose its okay to mock a little but know the limits, and show empathy because your favorite fighter is most likely to lose at some point in the future too. it all comes around and its not nice when its your turn.....
Unless it's Sal, and he blames the loss on gloves! Ha Ha ! ;D
