Here's the only person that will beat floyd...

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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well let me throw my hat in there with you mate I agree 100%. ;D

Floyd has too much mobility, and D. Shane has a good chance, but It's Floyd's fight to lose. Floyd wins UD, the same way Mosely did to Oscar.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

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I guess the outcomes of fights such has hatton v Tzu, calzaghe v lacy havn't taught u anything at all? Don't let your love for a fighter cloud your judgment^^

alot may dissagree with me on hatton beating floyd, but by no means can you say 'only' mosely can beat floyd lol

Hatton can't beat Floyd either. He'll look like an amatuer against Floyd.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

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I guess the outcomes of fights such has hatton v Tzu, calzaghe v lacy havn't taught u anything at all? Don't let your love for a fighter cloud your judgment^^

alot may dissagree with me on hatton beating floyd, but by no means can you say 'only' mosely can beat floyd lol

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My judgement would be clouded if i said nobody could beat him..or he could successfully move up to 154 and beat winky and all that crap...if PBF stays at 140-147 for the rest of his career..he won't lose to anyone except mosely if he takes that fight...but it's certainly not a foregone conclusion though..i said floyd could win..but mosely has the better chance...

Your wrong. Shane Mosley doesn't have a chance.. He's too slow now, and he would be caught all night... Even in his prime Mosley had fast ass combinations, but his individual punches lacked the speed Mayweather has. No way can Shane win... he would be countered and humiliated all night.

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Your wrong. Shane Mosley doesn't have a chance.. He's too slow now, and he would be caught all night... Even in his prime Mosley had fast a** combinations, but his individual punches lacked the speed Mayweather has. No way can Shane win... he would be countered and humiliated all night.

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Shane got lucky that Fernando's eye was shut. Shane has aged alot in the ring. It was very noticable against Vargas. Him beating Floyd is slim to none. It's about time someone else sees that.

I know quite a few brits who would think otherwise ::** Hatton has a better shot then anyone imo.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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I could see it happening, But probably not.

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Your wrong. Shane Mosley doesn't have a chance.. He's too slow now, and he would be caught all night... Even in his prime Mosley had fast a** combinations, but his individual punches lacked the speed Mayweather has. No way can Shane win... he would be countered and humiliated all night.

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He's only slow because he's packed too much muscle onto his body..and fighting at 154 is ridiculous..PBF would look the same way at 154...if mosely dropped to 147 his speed and footwork would be drastically different...remember this post..in case the fight happens...

i like them both....i think floyd can win a close decision, I also think mosely can win a close decision or stop floyd...so i don't really care who wins..although i'd be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated... ;)

The only person who can beat Floyd is Floyd

hatton is the man to beat floyd. granted i also think that judah, and margarito also have what it takes to beat floyd. but not mosley. not any more. hatton is your man.

Hatton has the best shot other than Oscar...Mosley isn't too far behind but his lack of power and speed for now is not making me think too hard about it.

it would be a very close fight but i think that mosley would win on points

I think it could be a great fight.. Maybe now that Oscar likely won't fight PBF Shane will?? I know Mosley wanted him after he beat Vargas but Oscar said he may fight him so basically made Shane take a rematch with Fernando.. Its BS, one of them should fight him and just make the commitment, now Shane has to make 154 again and he's not getting younger. I don't even know why the rematch is happening he beat Vargas by enough of a margin, I don't care to see it again.

what! mosley vargas was an awesome fight. i would love to see a rematch.

mosley al the way, ud win

Zab asked alot of questions of floyd in their fight, but seemd to tire out towards the end. one thing u can be sure about hatton is he will be in his face thorwing punches ad head and body for every second of every round

He has shown he can do that without getting tired, i honestly doubt floyd can last 12 rounds with ricky, and i think his shots will tire floyd out fast, making floyd punches less painfull, less accurate. sure many of u will be saying floyd will be to fast, hatton wont be able to hit him, but then isnt that what most saig about Tzu?

there only one person worth betting on if they do fight.. Hatton!

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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Really? I have not been impressed with Shane at all recently, and I was at one time a HUGE fan. Still like the guy, but WHY did Cruz and Estrada go the distance with him? Why were they not at least knocked down and/or dominated? Why was a shot Vargas winning any rounds at all? I think Shane has slipped lately. Back in the glory days when he was 34 and 0 with 32 knockouts, then you're damn right he woulda killed Floyd. Now I just don't know..I'd favor Floyd in that fight probably.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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Really? I have not been impressed with Shane at all recently, and I was at one time a HUGE fan. Still like the guy, but WHY did Cruz and Estrada go the distance with him? Why were they not at least knocked down and/or dominated? Why was a shot Vargas winning any rounds at all? I think Shane has slipped lately. Back in the glory days when he was 34 and 0 with 32 knockouts, then you're damn right he woulda killed Floyd. Now I just don't know..I'd favor Floyd in that fight probably.

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those guys are too big for shane....154 it too high for him..at 147 he'd look way more explosive...in fact he'd be more explosive...he has the boxing skill, strength, and power to take and give with floyd...he'd walk through floyds punches...I don't believe I could say the same for floyd...

MAYORGA! ;D

Seriously, a confident and a conditioned Vernon Forrest! Long, great boxing skills, very strong, etc....

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Seriously, a confident and a conditioned Vernon Forrest! Long, great boxing skills, very strong, etc....

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his skills were so confident that he couldn't even beat a non-boxer like mayorga....he'd be torn up by floyd....

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Originally Posted by Preme

Zab asked alot of questions of floyd in their fight, but seemd to tire out towards the end. one thing u can be sure about hatton is he will be in his face thorwing punches ad head and body for every second of every round

He has shown he can do that without getting tired, i honestly doubt floyd can last 12 rounds with ricky, and i think his shots will tire floyd out fast, making floyd punches less painfull, less accurate. sure many of u will be saying floyd will be to fast, hatton wont be able to hit him, but then isnt that what most saig about Tzu?

there only one person worth betting on if they do fight.. Hatton!

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Yall are too biased to be posting,U think that Hatton will tire out Floyd,who has one of the best cardios out there if not the best,and also that he cant stand for 12 rnds against him???Floyd doesnt have to hurt him,hell be boxing his ears off and by the 6th rnd Ricky's face will look like a hamburguer.

Ricky is a great pressure fighter,but he blocks the punches with his face...

This will look like Castillo/PBF II if not worse,U guys overrate Hatton too much,IMO is tougher than Hatton,more xp and everything but hes been fighting at 135 and Hatton at 140 but I bet that Castillo will have no problem at 140,and he can take on Hatton any day of the week.So take it out of your minds yall,Hatton cant beat PBF plain and simple!

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Seriously, a confident and a conditioned Vernon Forrest! Long, great boxing skills, very strong, etc....

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his skills were so confident that he couldn't even beat a non-boxer like mayorga....he'd be torn up by floyd....

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He underestimated Mayorga and maybe he's was confused when he knew he could not hurt him. He was a great fighter at Weltereweight before his confidence was shattered by Mayorga. I like to see him at his best when this two meet.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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How did you reason this would be the case other than what you think? Back up what you think with reasons, this will get you thinking...

Thinking is good for you.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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How did you reason this would be the case other than what you think? Back up what you think with reasons, this will get you thinking...

Thinking is good for you.

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shane is stronger than floyd, he's never been hurt in the ring other than the first forrest fight and that was due to the headbutt and the right hand that followed shortly after...shane is just a skilled as floyd...at 147 shane's punch will hurt floyd like no else's....floyd never had enough power to hurt shane at any weight he will walk through floyd's punches all night long...and it's not the case like hatton who possibly could walk through PBF punches, because shane can walk through them and be quick enough to get off too..shane is skilled and fast enough to hit floyd with anything...at 147 against shane it would look like a man against boy the strength would be so telling....

here's the grade breakdown if they fought at 147...

PBF=Skill A+, speed A, Power B-, Footwork A, Defence A+, Strength C
SS= Skill A+, speed A+,Power A+, Footwork A, defence B+, Strength A+

mind you this is shane at 147 not 154 where he started to believe that just because you put on muscle mean you hit harder and he started to throw one or two punches...at 147 he'd be toooo strong for floyd this is why floyd has mentioned everybody up except shane....winky? Winky would not genrate as much money as shane..winky & taylor aren't even fighting on PPV and they've just beat some great fighters in BHOP and Trinidad...PBF v Shane would definitely be PPV... shane hasn't been the real underdog in any fight except the first de la hoya fight..and he'd be the underdog against floyd...and if he came in 75% of that version of himself he would still beat floyd....remember I'm not saying floyd couldn't win, but his chances are slimmer than shane's...shane could win by (SD,UD,KO,TKO)
PBF could only win by (SD, UD) because he doesn't have enough strength to hurt shane and yeah he'll hit shane a lot but the only difference in this fight than against say TOny or Hatton...shane is skilled and fast enough to hit him back so the getting discouraged factor will go out of the window...

Shane has problems with defensive fighters{Winky}, Floyd is faster, has better legs and hand speed. Mosely edges in power but thats it. Plus, Mosely has looked like he is having stamina problems, and Floyd can go more than 12. If Mosely didn't get a ko within 5, I can't see him winning ever, against Floyd. This fight would resemble the Judah fight. Mosely would start goo, then Floyd would take over and dominate. Shane's speed is not what Floyd's is, that's wrong. His footwork is not as good, and his D is a grade below at least. The biggest separation is stamina. Shane is only stronger because he's been at 147-154 longer than Floyd.

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Shane has problems with defensive fighters{Winky}, Floyd is faster, has better legs and hand speed. Mosely edges in power but thats it. Plus, Mosely has looked like he is having stamina problems, and Floyd can go more than 12. If Mosely didn't get a ko within 5, I can't see him winning ever, against Floyd. This fight would resemble the Judah fight. Mosely would start goo, then Floyd would take over and dominate. Shane's speed is not what Floyd's is, that's wrong. His footwork is not as good, and his D is a grade below at least. The biggest separation is stamina. Shane is only stronger because he's been at 147-154 longer than Floyd.

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Man i know it hard to remember what shane looked like at 147..that's why he's been having stamina problem he doesn't do as much cardio because he's not natrually even close to 154 he tries to keep his muscle on...that why he looks slow...and the strength is always there he was benching 330+ at 135...i know that does not translate to punching power but it and idea..at his proper weight which would be 147 right now at his age...he'd be light years faster than he his at 154..do you remember his last fight at 147? and shane has just as good footwork as PBF...when have you ever seen shane off balance or reaching with his punches? almost never...the inly time i can remember him off balance was because Oscar hit him with a left while he moving against the ropes.

Judah? Shane would muder judah in the ring..it would look like mercer v morrison...shane would put judah in the coma....shane doesn't give up like judah and is stronger to the body than judah...and is way smarter than judah...

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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I agree.....and for all those that keep regurgitating "Hatton" look to the gatti fight.....

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Shane has problems with defensive fighters{Winky}, Floyd is faster, has better legs and hand speed. Mosely edges in power but thats it. Plus, Mosely has looked like he is having stamina problems, and Floyd can go more than 12. If Mosely didn't get a ko within 5, I can't see him winning ever, against Floyd. This fight would resemble the Judah fight. Mosely would start goo, then Floyd would take over and dominate. Shane's speed is not what Floyd's is, that's wrong. His footwork is not as good, and his D is a grade below at least. The biggest separation is stamina. Shane is only stronger because he's been at 147-154 longer than Floyd.

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Man i know it hard to remember what shane looked like at 147..that's why he's been having stamina problem he doesn't do as much cardio because he's not natrually even close to 154 he tries to keep his muscle on...that why he looks slow...and the strength is always there he was benching 330+ at 135...i know that does not translate to punching power but it and idea..at his proper weight which would be 147 right now at his age...he'd be light years faster than he his at 154..do you remember his last fight at 147? and shane has just as good footwork as PBF...when have you ever seen shane off balance or reaching with his punches? almost never...the inly time i can remember him off balance was because Oscar hit him with a left while he moving against the ropes.

Judah? Shane would muder judah in the ring..it would look like mercer v morrison...shane would put judah in the coma....shane doesn't give up like judah and is stronger to the body than judah...and is way smarter than judah...

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Wait a minute. I'm not saying that Judah would beat Shane. I was just saying that Floyd would take over after a few rounds like he did against Judah. Mosely going back down to 147 would help, but he is still alot older now, and he would be a little quicker, but not light years. Also, the footwork is close balance wise. I meant that Floyd can move in and out alot faster than Shane can. I just can't see Shane winning unless he pulled out an early KO, which is possible, but not likely.

Nah I know you weren't saying judah could beat shane..i just like to say that because i remember judah saying that shane ran from him after the fight with oscar...that all..

Just sit in a dark room and try to recall the shane from 147...i said even at 75% of the prime 147 shane would be too much for floyd....shane by (SD,UD, KO, TKO) floyd by (SD,UD)... 55-45 for shane...although i don't care who'd win because they're both in my top 4 all time...and i might be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated, but i wouldn't be mad if he lost to shane....

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Nah I know you weren't saying judah could beat shane..i just like to say that because i remember judah saying that shane ran from him after the fight with oscar...that all..

Just sit in a dark room and try to recall the shane from 147...i said even at 75% of the prime 147 shane would be too much for floyd....shane by (SD,UD, KO, TKO) floyd by (SD,UD)... 55-45 for shane...although i don't care who'd win because they're both in my top 4 all time...and i might be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated, but i wouldn't be mad if he lost to shane....

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Shane has a chance, I'm not doubting that at all. But, he will fade late. And if it's close, Floyd will pull out the win. I can't see Shane dominating for more than 4 rounds. After that, Floyd will have him figured, just like Forrest, and Winky. I'm sure Floyd already has a gameplan of what he would do. Shane poses a big threat right now. If Floyd wins a couple of more fights at welter, and grows into the weight, and they were to fight next year, Floyd wins for sure.

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Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight.... ;)

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I would agree to that if we were talking about Mosley of the old....I would put the Mosley that fought DLH the first time against a prime Mayweather at any weight and pick Mosley every time...But now he just doesn't have what he used to..

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Your wrong. Shane Mosley doesn't have a chance.. He's too slow now, and he would be caught all night... Even in his prime Mosley had fast a** combinations, but his individual punches lacked the speed Mayweather has. No way can Shane win... he would be countered and humiliated all night.

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He's only slow because he's packed too much muscle onto his body..and fighting at 154 is ridiculous..PBF would look the same way at 154...if mosely dropped to 147 his speed and footwork would be drastically different...remember this post..in case the fight happens...

i like them both....i think floyd can win a close decision, I also think mosely can win a close decision or stop floyd...so i don't really care who wins..although i'd be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated... ;)

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Mosley had already lost loads of speed by the time he was 147... Its his age not his weight that makes him way slower than he used to be in reflexes, and in every other way. Mosley doesn't have the power he used to, and Vargas who is way slower than Mayweather could him alot of times which would have never happened to a younger Mosley...

i love this thread.....and it looks like that fight is getting closer