the first castilo fight?
Watch and comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Igmy...uis%20castillo
IMO this was a very close fight but I think castilio should win the first fight
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the first castilo fight?
Watch and comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Igmy...uis%20castillo
IMO this was a very close fight but I think castilio should win the first fight
Favored fighters usually get gift decisions at least once in their careers. Ironically the only truly undefeated champ today is Calzaghe. his record has no tarnish whatsoever, no close fights that could have gone either way etc.
Yes Mayweather really did win
robin reid ??????Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMix27
nope that should have been his first loss on his record
That was close but no way it was a gift decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Gift decision = Sven Ottke over Byron Mitchell
While I think Castillo's pressure fighting was slightly more effective, I could see how the judges would score otherwise, just a close fight.
To be fair if Castillo got the decision i think there would be just as much uproar, tricky one.
Un like Harold Leatherman I gave the first four rounds to PBF and I still had Castillo wining the descision by like 3 points I dont quite remember. But it was a close fight and I could see how Mayweather got the decision. Although by my card Castillo defenatly won.
Castillo won the fight, its no secret amongst hardcore boxing fans and non-maywhether fans. Floyd is vulnerable to a good pressure fighter, that is why it gives hope to Hatton fans. Me though, I can't decide who I dislike more, Hatton or Floyd, or OSCAR...
yeah, it was a close and competative fight, and castillo probably did enough to get the w. I think that it was the worst performance of PBF's career, everyone has offnights, and he proved that in the rematch. If they did it for a third time, Floyd would win again. I dont think it is fair to say Floyd has problems against pressure fighters off of this one performance, because he has beaten several good pressure fighters.
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
Castillo definitely shaded the first fight, though Floyd deserved the rematch although ironically the scoring was closer second time around.
Never actually seen the Calzaghe Reid fight but I remember it being a little controversial.
Well Jesus Chavez and Gatti off the top of my head. Corrales and N'dou too somewhat, although they are very different from Castillo and Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Corrales isn't a true pressure fighter, but fair enough. Chavez...eh...I didn't see the fight, but he is mostly a pressure fighter. Gatti was a pressure fighter but did not use pressure to fight Floyd, he stayed out in the center of the ring and paid for it dearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
I mentioned Corrales because he did try to stalk Floyd and beat him with pressure and Floyd caught him coming in every time. Floyd fought that entire match moving backwards or against the ropes. N'Dou kept putting PBF on the ropes and then couldnt do a damn thing against Floyd's brilliant rope-a-dope. True that Gatti didnt use pressure against Floyd, he seemed afraid to.. My point is Floyd is at his best when a bigger man is coming towards him, and aside from the worst performance of his career, has shown no problems being backed up by a stronger opponent.
True true, but remember he did it at 135 - he can't get away with that shit at 147 & upQuote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
CC plain and simple,Castillo won and that was clear to see. I had it JLC by 3. I don't see how you could dislike Hatton,he's a nice guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
This is a guy who likes Mayorga.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
On one hand, you're right. On the other hand, The N'Dou fight made one thing very clear and the comentators pointed it out, it is bigger, taller men that seem to bring out the best in Floyd. I see him breaking down Margarito the same way he did to philip and corrales. I see him cutting up Hatton. The only person I really give a shot at beating him right now is DLH, and I wouldnt put money on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by raleights
I just don't think he could cut Hatton or Oscar up at that weight. At 140 he was a monster, and Ricky would have real problems with his speed - literally eating leather anytime he wanted to come in & land something. It's amazing how 7 pounds is life and death with Floyd, and Hatton more than likely sees this too. He no doubt wants the fight at 147, that way he's dealing with a feather puncher.
Mayweather seems to have a good frame for putting on weight. Broad shoulders, long enough arms, good genetics, I dont think he hit a wall moving to 147. If anything Hatton needs to stay at 140, but I might change my mind on that after I see him in the Collazo fight, he did look better than expected in those training pics.
To me thats what so weird about Mayweather, even though he's not performing like he used to... his body looks just right with all the weight. Maybe he needs time to settle in at the weight? Who the fuck knows
not me
Whoever thinks Floyd lost to JLC either fight is a Floyd hater. Sure, Castillo pressured him, but that doesn't win a fight. And I got news for you, Hatton is a good fighter, but he's not as tough as Castillo, and he would lose more decisevly to Floyd. The only reason people think Floyd lost is because he didn't dominate like his other performances. How come every time Floyd doesn't destroy someone, the haters come out to talk? Point is, he still won, and he's still the best. No matter how much you hate.
I think he won the fight... alot of the shots Castillo landed were pillow shots.. Floyd landed more real shots
Floyd blocked most of Castillo's punches. The punches Floyd landed, you could see from a mile away. Castillo is one of my favorite fighters, and I hope he moves up to destroy Cotto after he destroys Corrales again, but he didn't beat Floyd either time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
i haven't seen the fight but by judging from those 3 rounds, i gave Floyd rd 6 and gave Castillo rounds 7 and 12.
Floyd by 2 should have been the score, maybe only by one. Most people think that because Floyd was on the ropes, he was being punished. He wasn't. He landed alot of clean counters. Closest fight in his career doesn't equal a loss. He still landed more clean effective punches. Floyd didn't win by what the judges saw for sure. But he did win. Castillo destroys people when he gets them on the ropes, but he never hurt Floyd. If I'm not mistaken, Floyd won one of their fights with a broken hand. That should tell you who the better fighter is.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
I agree with you... Castillo would also give Hatton one hell of a fight IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
I thought he lost but it was close