Some Thoughts on Body Punches
There is a common misconception that working to the body means getting hit more in return and I don't think that is true, though it often turns out that way. If you lead with body punches you'll get hit in return and you'll deserve it because (1) its not good to reach with your punches (2)you'll be hitting arms mostly anyway (3)it needn't be that way. Look to hit the body off counters vs. his jab inparticular, and the right as well.
There are two other false beliefs about body punching: its a mostly left hook kind of task and that you have to keep at it round after round to make it effective. In truth the straight right to the heart was for decades a legitimate ko blow and the right uppecut to the solar plexus is a draining punch. And one well timed and set up blow to the body has often changed the course of a fight, doing more damage than 10 rounds of "shoeshine" combos to the body. Read the accounts of fights from 1900 til today and see how often one body punch drains a fighter.
When hitting the body it is best to get the shoulder of the punching arm to level with the target; so to hit the liver try turning over your left leg (like you've just thrown a winging right hook/swing). Your head is protected by your right shoulder your left shoulder is lowered to target height and the start of the liver punch is hidden from him.
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yes a big problem indeed. i hear cornor advice like that all time time during fights. stuff like, "youre not throwing enough to the body, more to the body" as if the body wasnt a thing segmented into specific sections that require precise set up to even get a mit on, but rather some kinda bag to throw apples into, the more the better -- oh, and boxing be damned by the by. something in a similar vein; i heard floyd sr in de la hoya's cornor in the mayorga fight ask a guy how many jabs in the round had oscar actually thrown. the number returned to him i think was 9. his response, "more fucking jabs" like a higher numerical output of jabs would equate to sucess; but what were the jabs setting up? who cares, setting up punches doesnt matter -- "more fucking jabs." boxing has become a game of quantity over quality and the transformation from a sport of scientific knockouts to a game of winning the most rounds is now complete. i dont even remember the last time ive saw a real 10 count ko.
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Originally Posted by greynotsoold
There is a common misconception that working to the body means getting hit more in return and I don't think that is true, though it often turns out that way. If you lead with body punches you'll get hit in return and you'll deserve it because (1) its not good to reach with your punches (2)you'll be hitting arms mostly anyway (3)it needn't be that way. Look to hit the body off counters vs. his jab inparticular, and the right as well.
There are two other false beliefs about body punching: its a mostly left hook kind of task and that you have to keep at it round after round to make it effective. In truth the straight right to the heart was for decades a legitimate ko blow and the right uppecut to the solar plexus is a draining punch. And one well timed and set up blow to the body has often changed the course of a fight, doing more damage than 10 rounds of "shoeshine" combos to the body. Read the accounts of fights from 1900 til today and see how often one body punch drains a fighter.
When hitting the body it is best to get the shoulder of the punching arm to level with the target; so to hit the liver try turning over your left leg (like you've just thrown a winging right hook/swing). Your head is protected by your right shoulder your left shoulder is lowered to target height and the start of the liver punch is hidden from him.
Ive sparred guys a whole lot bigger and older than me that have loaded up with power punches to the head and all i think about is getting even.
Hit me with a nasty body shot especially to the chest and all im thinking about is recovering
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lol
thank god i've yet to feel that pain
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They get hit because of bad techniuqe, simple as that. Nobody practices skills andlearning levelsand distance any more.Im afraid today AMS and PRO are different sports now,theres the problem.Somebody with a long Amatuer record is going to struggle to change, their style is set in stone. People cant be arsed trying to change.Ive been told the Ams dont score body shots anymore, so basically its a waste of time learning. Boxers now dont change levels they drop their hands instead of dropping their knees,their heads dont move
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yeah... not scoring body shots would explain why I lost my last fight on 1 stinking point despite landing more than the other guy threw :P
Sloppy judging ;)
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lol
thank god i've yet to feel that pain
get it over and done with... :P
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bodyshots take alot out of a fighter, if the other guy gets winded then it is a bonus....
I got knocked down by a bodyshot not too long ago in sparring
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They get hit because of bad techniuqe, simple as that. Nobody practices skills andlearning levelsand distance any more.Im afraid today AMS and PRO are different sports now,theres the problem.Somebody with a long Amatuer record is going to struggle to change, their style is set in stone. People cant be arsed trying to change.Ive been told the Ams dont score body shots anymore, so basically its a waste of time learning. Boxers now dont change levels they drop their hands instead of dropping their knees,their heads dont move
my trainer is big on body punching I know a five punch combo to throw to the body off a jab that turns into a five punch combo once he drops his hand to defend the body
so actually its a ten punch combo
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That sounds better than having sex, I just got a semmi on reading that, thank you
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I go to the body alot, regardless of it being an Amt fight, because its the easiest way to get a knockout....
A well set up liver shot = End of Amateur fight very easy....
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They get hit because of bad techniuqe, simple as that. Nobody practices skills andlearning levelsand distance any more.Im afraid today AMS and PRO are different sports now,theres the problem.Somebody with a long Amatuer record is going to struggle to change, their style is set in stone. People cant be arsed trying to change.Ive been told the Ams dont score body shots anymore, so basically its a waste of time learning. Boxers now dont change levels they drop their hands instead of dropping their knees,their heads dont move
my trainer is big on body punching I know a five punch combo to throw to the body off a jab that turns into a five punch combo once he drops his hand to defend the body
so actually its a ten punch combo
seriously you guys i know some of you may think im full of it the way i say i throw so many punches but if you want to be sucsessful , even if you form is crappy as hell, you got to train on throwing lots of punches. if you dont get tired of throwing punches and can last a whole 3 rounds at a steady pace who is going to want to exchange with you?
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Originally Posted by lightweight132
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They get hit because of bad techniuqe, simple as that. Nobody practices skills andlearning levelsand distance any more.Im afraid today AMS and PRO are different sports now,theres the problem.Somebody with a long Amatuer record is going to struggle to change, their style is set in stone. People cant be arsed trying to change.Ive been told the Ams dont score body shots anymore, so basically its a waste of time learning. Boxers now dont change levels they drop their hands instead of dropping their knees,their heads dont move
my trainer is big on body punching I know a five punch combo to throw to the body off a jab that turns into a five punch combo once he drops his hand to defend the body
so actually its a ten punch combo
up above when i said "off the jab" i mean when my opponent jabs at me not me jabbing at hiim
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They get hit because of bad techniuqe, simple as that. Nobody practices skills andlearning levelsand distance any more.Im afraid today AMS and PRO are different sports now,theres the problem.Somebody with a long Amatuer record is going to struggle to change, their style is set in stone. People cant be arsed trying to change.Ive been told the Ams dont score body shots anymore, so basically its a waste of time learning. Boxers now dont change levels they drop their hands instead of dropping their knees,their heads dont move
my trainer is big on body punching I know a five punch combo to throw to the body off a jab that turns into a five punch combo once he drops his hand to defend the body
so actually its a ten punch combo
seriously you guys i know some of you may think im full of it the way i say i throw so many punches but if you want to be sucsessful , even if you form is crappy as hell, you got to train on throwing lots of punches. if you dont get tired of throwing punches and can last a whole 3 rounds at a steady pace who is going to want to exchange with you?
Some one who can defend and counter properly? ;) Obviously you've got to be fit enough at what you do... no one wants to get winded ;)
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Originally Posted by lightweight132
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They get hit because of bad techniuqe, simple as that. Nobody practices skills andlearning levelsand distance any more.Im afraid today AMS and PRO are different sports now,theres the problem.Somebody with a long Amatuer record is going to struggle to change, their style is set in stone. People cant be arsed trying to change.Ive been told the Ams dont score body shots anymore, so basically its a waste of time learning. Boxers now dont change levels they drop their hands instead of dropping their knees,their heads dont move
my trainer is big on body punching I know a five punch combo to throw to the body off a jab that turns into a five punch combo once he drops his hand to defend the body
so actually its a ten punch combo
seriously you guys i know some of you may think im full of it the way i say i throw so many punches but if you want to be sucsessful , even if you form is crappy as hell, you got to train on throwing lots of punches. if you dont get tired of throwing punches and can last a whole 3 rounds at a steady pace who is going to want to exchange with you?
Some one who can defend and counter properly? ;) Obviously you've got to be fit enough at what you do... no one wants to get winded ;)
im not gonna tell anyone how but the last thing i do to finish my very long workout that includes hill sprint and just about everything you can thing of is throwing 2,200 punches in three rounds for my last three rounds. Yes i have certain things keeping count.
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I dont have a camera recorder but since college just let out for the summer im gonna find me a summer job and i'll try to get buy one so i can show you guys a video of me doing some hand pads, bag work, and of course sparring. It will most likely be put on myspace but i'll let all for you know
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So lightweight bro,you're like a volume puncher>? I'm guessing you're amateur right? You fought any slick boxers? How you do? I'm just interested.
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So lightweight bro,you're like a volume puncher>? I'm guessing you're amateur right? You fought any slick boxers? How you do? I'm just interested.
Im an amatuer boxer ive fought some professional K1 fighters and did very well. However i have had my ass kicked There was this one guy that came to our gym after winning a bonze in the olympics and he stuck it to me if it was a real bout i would have lost on points he was a bit faster but i had way more power.
since then ive realized that since im not the fastest lightweight i need to make up for it by being able to NEVER stop throwing punches just like rocky marciano. Since him ive been training on thowing lots of punches which i can do pretty well now and im also trying to get my trainer to get a hold of his so we can do it again.
I feel like i cant let him get away with that.
Ive also been knocked down only by people that out weigh me by a whole lot and are much older than me. I remember i pissed off this one big black pro fighter that was 170 because i kept slipping and countering. Once i busted his nose and lips every punch that came from him had all his power behind it. I tried to back pedal out of a flurry of angry punches and wound up running into a corner. There we threw down like animals i didnt give a damn how hard he was hitting me or how tired i was i just let out everything in my arsenal with all my power as did he. Since he was taller he had to crouch down low and atack my body and i stood tall and attacked his head. He eventually knocked the wind out of me and i had to take a knee.
I got up before i wanna say within 10 secs because I knew i couldnt show him that he got the best of me and we finished the round
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lightweight, whats your myspace?
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lightweight, whats your myspace?
send me your email and ill let you know. I didnt want to let everyone know until i put some pics/ videos up. Im still new to myspace, havent even been a memeber until 2 weeks ago all i have is old pics up, but its still shows my strength as a 132 pounder. send me youre myspace in the email as well my email is lightweight132@yahoo.com.
so far i have no pics up that shows any boxing yet. but their on the way
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So lightweight bro,you're like a volume puncher>? I'm guessing you're amateur right? You fought any slick boxers? How you do? I'm just interested.
I'm an amateurs boxer Ive fought some professional K1 fighters and did very well. However i have had my a** kicked There was this one guy that came to our gym after winning a bronze in the Olympics and he stuck it to me if it was a real bout i would have lost on points he was a bit faster but i had way more power.
since then Ive realized that since I'm not the fastest lightweight i need to make up for it by being able to NEVER stop throwing punches just like rocky Marciano. Since him Ive been training on thowing lots of punches which i can do pretty well now and I'm also trying to get my trainer to get a hold of his so we can do it again.
I feel like i cant let him get away with that.
Ive also been knocked down only by people that out weigh me by a whole lot and are much older than me. I remember i pissed off this one big black pro fighter that was 170 because i kept slipping and countering. Once i busted his nose and lips every punch that came from him had all his power behind it. I tried to back pedal out of a flurry of angry punches and wound up running into a corner. There we threw down like animals i didn't give a damn how hard he was hitting me or how tired i was i just let out everything in my arsenal with all my power as did he. Since he was taller he had to crouch down low and attack my body and i stood tall and attacked his head. He eventually knocked the wind out of me and i had to take a knee.
I got up before i wanna say within 10 secs because I knew i couldn't show him that he got the best of me and we finished the round
these are the only people that have given some challenge buy the way. Anyone in my weight class knows to approach me cautiously. so far......
and the way it seems you'll see me on par per view one day O0
