Watch him, he's just not that special. He throws crazy wide shots. PBF or ODH would take him apart.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1wYUbv9bXU4&search=margarito
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Watch him, he's just not that special. He throws crazy wide shots. PBF or ODH would take him apart.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1wYUbv9bXU4&search=margarito
I feel that both would beat Tony also. He reminds me of a bigger Chico.
Margarito used to say how he was whoopin on Oscar in sparring. He claimed that Oscar is/was afraid of him.
Most of those crazy wild shots were as his opponent was stunned and it didn't matter. He really is a good pressure and inside fighter.
I've seen him fight quite a few times, and he don't pressure as much as people say. He tries to walk them down if anything, and that won't beat Floyd. Tony is not as agressive as Castillo or Hatton, and would get picked apart trying to walk down Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
With Oscar's resume, I doubt he would be afraid of Margarito. He fought Hopkins, and that says a lot about courage.Quote:
Originally Posted by baller
Every fighter that has losses, says the other fighters are scared. After Vivian Harris lost, everyone is scared of him now. N'dou says the same thing even though he has a few losses.
Every time I get my a** kicked, I call everyone and tell them that they are scared of me! Ha Ha Ha!
Slower less skilled Chico.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Margarito is NOTHING like Chico. Honestly, do you guys even watch boxing? ;D
***Sorry, that was pretty low, but I'm just calling it how I see it.
Comparing the two is just NoT RiGhT. :D
Do I have to explain the difference?
I'll give a hint, Chico, for the most part, sets up for that one shot that can knock out anyone
he's in the ring with. Margarito never thinks about setting up for one shot.
A pure volume puncher. Diego has awesome one punch power, while
Margarito aims to give a beating of a lifetime.
Chico and Tony are different species in the ring.
Also, Diego looks way more conventional than Margarito.
Before the Mayweather loss, Chico did nothing but punch in volume, just like Tony. Chico has fell in love with his power over the past few fights, but used to fight just like Tony. Watch some of his early fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Yes, they do look alot alike, Tony just looks alot slower.
CC,what a dumb analogy. Please someone,enlighten me of a fight Chico throws as much as Tony does. Tony uses a jab more of often that not,has worked the body,et cetc Diego has the haymaker,1 punch ko power,hardly ever uses a jab or works the body etc etc. The only similarities are there heights and sometimes leaky defence but if that means they are similar then Castillo and Magarito must be similar too,the way the come forward,good jab,punching in numbers,working the body,great grit and determintion etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Watch Chico against Justin Jukko, or almost any fight pre-Mayweather. Plus, against most boxers who are mobile, Tony doesn't punch that much, just like Chico didn't against Freitas or Floyd. What about Castillo-Corrales? Chico threw more punches that fight than Tony ever has.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
And for the record, Tony looks nothing like Castillo. Not nearly as aggresive.
I just think that Margarito is nothing special...I mean that being said Floyd or ODH or whoever wants to be "THE MAN" at 147 needs to beat him though.
Margarito reminds me of a less defensive Winky Wright...his arms are long which makes his punches slower. He leans over and therefore can get caught with an uppercut. He has a right cross and that's all I see....other than that he's nothing to get all worked up about but he still needs to be beat to totally discredit him.
Oscar has fought and beat far better
PBF is too quick for that right hand but I think straight punches would be the way to go vs him, just none that slow.
Hatton would destroy him on the inside because his punches are shorter
A fight with Cotto would be BRUTAL, a fight of the year candidate!
Unknown, usually you and somewhat agree.
But never at this. First things first, they both have entirely different body frames AND belong in different divisions. You know Unknown, THAT actually matters in itself. Chico's scrawny and tall body is a wonder. I still can't believe he was able to fit himself into Super Featherweight, especially when he's just about as tall as me!!! Crazy!
Also, Diego, unlike Mayweather, is actually fighting the fights and earning a name for himself. Casamayor, Freitas, and Castillo. He's done more than Mayweather has ever done in the past four years. He's actually taking risks against quality opposition.
And please watch more Margarito fights!!! Because your sounding like an ignorant b*stard when you say stuff like this. heheh ;) Don't EVER compare Diego with Margarito, Seriously. You almost sound like a racist b*stard. heheh ;D So, they both have some Mexican in them, that's about it they have in common.
Watch Margarito in his Santos, Lujan (Margarito actually plays the Boxer), and Cintron fights. Even after Margarito's "loss" he keeps on trucking with his machine like style. Also note that Margarito throws from diagonal angles UPWARD and downward!
Earth to Unknown, if you fight anybody with world class movement, you can't punch as much! Tell me something I DON'T know. That's what the sweet science is about. Also about Justin Juuko, first of all that was SIX years ago, even Diego was too young to realize his own potential. Diego and Mayweather squared off over FIVE years ago, with Diego only improving in time. The Diego of Justin Juuko wouldn't last against his current competition. Joe Goosen as Diego's trainer has really helped his game, mentally and technically. Diego was just a young man, now he's a veteran of the game with great fights and accomplishments back to back to back.
Margarito has earned his shot, like any good man, the hard way. And to say he doesn't deserve it because he "looks like Diego did six years ago" is just not smart.
yep. he is especially susceptible to ODH left hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuckwopat
I don't really get the Corrales comparison either. He reminds me of a Mayorga if Mayorga was a slightly better boxer.
He deserves a shot, I;'ve always said that. And, for the record, I'm not racist{that's funny}. Chico has gotten better with time. I was speaking about times in their careers, Chico and Tony resemble each other. They fight nothing alike now, but Chico did used to fight like Tony, as far as volume punching, and stalking.You must have mistaken me about Tony not deserving a shot. All other top welters have recent losses besides Tony, so who else deserves a shot? I've seen all of those fights with Tony that you mentioned. I never said Tony and Chico are the same, I said Tony reminds me of him. Ther is a difference, Earth to Gyrokai. Ha Ha! And I do agree with Chico should be fighting at a bigger weight. He looked like he had aids at 130. And, he don't look much better now. Yes, Tony uses angles more than Chico ever did, and boxes more. I simply based the comparrison on volume punching{past or present}, and stalking. Ease up killer! We both know you don't like my boy, and I think he'll beat your boy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Okay, I watched more fight video, and I get a bit of the Chico comparison.
Again, I don't think they are the same fighter, but I've seen alot of both, and there are some, not alot, but some similarities. I think tony is tougher, but Chico has achieved more, and fought as good of competition as anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuckwopat
I can't wait for Mayweather and Margarito to fight so Margarito can get the beating of a lifetime. You'll learn that just because he can take Mayweather's shows doesn't mean he'll win.
You know for sure, that I'm in agreement. I've been saying that all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Margarito fans seem to think that if Margarito can walk through Mayweather's shots that it means he can win.
yea right, because we allll no Mayweather depends solely depends on his power and has no defense or boxing ability ;D
Rocky Marciano and Manny Pacquiao to name just a few threw alot of wide looping shots which were/are often considered sloppy but they still kicked everbodies butts; didn't they?
These cronies who say that Margarito is not worthy are all Pretty boy propagandists.
That's funny. Tony may be deserving, but I can't see him beating Floyd. Even if I hated Floyd, and bowed down to Tony, I wouldn't want Tony to fight him.Quote:
Originally Posted by maracho
Even if PBF wins,why would Margarito not want to fight him? What's the worst that is going to happen? He's going to get kncoked down 6 times lose every round and get stopped? Chico came back and anyway,Floyd is the 1 that should be scared,he has more to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Who said anything about just walking through his shots although obviously that will be a factor....there are other factors too which have been stated thousands of times and the fact of the matter is Tony is more deserving than anyone Floyd has fought in the last 3 years so why doesn't he stop whining like a pussy over his hand and beat Margarito?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Peopl,let us not forget.....PBF was offered $6million to fight Tony BEFORE the Zab fight but took $5mill to fight Judah.......
The game, you do know alot of a boxers money also comes from PPV RIGHT???? That 5 million for fighting Judah didn't include revenue generated from PPV, and the fact is that alot of people bought that fight... About 10 times as many as would pay to see Floyd beat Margarito. PLus Floyd gained alot more recognition in beating Zab because people know who he was... Remember it doesn't matter to a boxer how much the fans know about boxing, "casual" fans pay the same amount to watch the fight as we do, and what difference does that make to Floyd. Im just saying that I guarentee Floyd made alot more money fighting Zab then he would Margarito. That's the reason Arum is trying to go out on a limb and offer Floyd such a high purse, because it probably won't sell many PPVS. And Arum knows that, in fact I would be surprised if he didn't lose money, should the fight happen. Margarito does not bring 8 million dollar purses just yet.
It's absurd you're allowed to choose who you fight
Especially someone like Floyd who isn't a huge crowd pleaser, walking around demanding millions when alot of people have no idea who he is. But everyone knows Gatti - even though PBF slaughtered him
If an athlete is gonna get paid millions he better be exciting, never playing it safe putting everything on the line. I'm a huge fan of Floyd's talent but bottom line, he does NOTHING but play it safe, with the fights he chooses and his style of fighting. People like Gatti, Ward, Castilo, Corrales, Barerra, Pac, Morales...These guys are gonna suffer later on in life because they entertained us. They put themselves on the line everytime and deserve those millions( even if MAB and Morales are F****** pricks :) )
You can say he's a smart fighter for never taking chances, and you're right. But it doesn't change the fact he's not earning his millions. And I'm not saying you have to go in there and take punishment to earn that money, just be a man and give it all you got.
Umm... He is earning his millions.... ???
Technically no athelete deserves millions but if you're gonna dish out that cash atleast give it to the fighters who are gonna need that money to pay the gigantic hospital bill that comes along with brain damage O0
but dangerous or not they do what they love and get compensated very well for it
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Originally Posted by p4pking
I also checked out how Zab and Floyd did on buys so yep...I do know and nope,it did not amount to $8million for Floyd,the man who was analysing said it did ok and compared it to other fights. I agree Margarito would not be as popular a fight yet.... firstly as soon as Oscar mentions someone as a good fighter,their profile is raised,people were wondering who is this Margarito he speaks of,second,you have alllll the Mexicans/latinos that would come out to support their man ESPECIALLY in a big fight,I mean Jesus Chavez is nowhere near as popular as he was in the PBF fight and finally I agree Arum knows he will lose out but come on,this guy is smart,he knows that Margarito is an exciting fighter and when he gets the exposure,Arum will be the one making more money. Tony has an exciting style and Bob knows it will make him money,why do you think he did not mind losing out abit on the PBF fight....See what I mean?
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Originally Posted by raleights
I like where you are coming from and you are DAM RIGHT,Floyd has never been the main attraction in his fights. Even in the Zab fight,it was not the fight itself but more the image surrounding the fight which got the attention and right again....like I have been saying,Floyd is trying to make millions by taking the easiest options available.CC. bro,good points.
MARGARITO WOULD NEVER BEAT FLOYD.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Margarito's style will be picked apart by Mayweather. Throwing more punches just means you get tired quicker. You need to be a counter puncher to beat Floyd, and Margarito isn't. He's an octopus who needs to plant his feet to throw shots. And he is wide open up the middle and to his body. Margarito has next to no chance against Floyd :)
I think Floyd will win that bout myself, but I also think Floyd has very tiny balls (being 147 his balls are already meant to be little but damn....)
That's funny. Tony may be deserving, but I can't see him beating Floyd. Even if I hated Floyd, and bowed down to Tony, I wouldn't want Tony to fight him.
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Even if PBF wins,why would Margarito not want to fight him? What's the worst that is going to happen? He's going to get kncoked down 6 times lose every round and get stopped? Chico came back and anyway,Floyd is the 1 that should be scared,he has more to lose
Let me rephrase= I would want Tony to fight Floyd to get his shot, but, I wouldn't want him to take another loss. It may do him some good like chico, but, Tony is already dissed, and avoided by too many fighters, so if he added another loss, more people would discredit him, especially getting outboxed every round. I would try to get another recognized fight for a belt. It makes sense to go after floyd, but losing might set him back further. If I was him I'd ultimately fight Floyd for sure, but, it may prove to be costly financially.
Heheh, Always class. :coolclick: in 24.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
What do you mean technically no athlete deserves millions... Who gets all the millions that is generated from people paying good money to watch the athletes then?? Do you have any clue how business works? Wow.....Quote:
Originally Posted by raleights
Whats wit the hype about this guy???? He is slow as .....you know..
molassas
Even if PBF wins,why would Margarito not want to fight him? What's the worst that is going to happen? He's going to get kncoked down 6 times lose every round and get stopped? Chico came back and anyway,Floyd is the 1 that should be scared,he has more to loseQuote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Let me rephrase= I would want Tony to fight Floyd to get his shot, but, I wouldn't want him to take another loss. It may do him some good like chico, but, Tony is already dissed, and avoided by too many fighters, so if he added another loss, more people would discredit him, especially getting outboxed every round. I would try to get another recognized fight for a belt. It makes sense to go after floyd, but losing might set him back further. If I was him I'd ultimately fight Floyd for sure, but, it may prove to be costly financially.
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See,I know where you are coming from and glad you rephrased it but people may think that Tony is easier to fight then IF he lost every round which is highly unlikely anyway!!!! I just see a guy who has nothing to lose and he will go out there,give it his best and HE WILL CATCH Floyd somewhere,the question is how will Floyd take the power. At 147,I have yet to see the fleet footed Floyd from the fights against Chico,no where near close even.
I find that hard to believe ( not that he said it but Oscar being scared of him )...DLH has been in with the best.....Never once backing downQuote:
Originally Posted by baller