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Stop!! Stop hating on a guy who has earned his #1 p4p ranking. He has many quality wins (Corrales, Castillo x 2, Manfredy, Gatti, Judah, and more). He has defense, speed, and power, and like RJJ in his prime, rarely loses a rd. Why people post things against this guy is beyond me. This nonsense about him ducking people is just stupid.
The only negative against this kid is, he DID lose the first Castillo fight.
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Good point.
I'm glad Steve Nash won the MVP. He deserved it. And the Pistons will win it all again.
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Stop!! Stop hating on a guy who has earned his #1 p4p ranking. He has many quality wins (Corrales, Castillo x 2, Manfredy, Gatti, Judah, and more). He has defense, speed, and power, and like RJJ in his prime, rarely loses a rd. Why people post things against this guy is beyond me. This nonsense about him ducking people is just stupid.
The only negative against this kid is, he DID lose the first Castillo fight.
I happen to agree 100%. Funny thing is, I was just about to ask: "I wonder what Mr. Nightmare thinks?"
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Stop!! Stop hating on a guy who has earned his #1 p4p ranking. He has many quality wins (Corrales, Castillo x 2, Manfredy, Gatti, Judah, and more). He has defense, speed, and power, and like RJJ in his prime, rarely loses a rd. Why people post things against this guy is beyond me. This nonsense about him ducking people is just stupid.
The only negative against this kid is, he DID lose the first Castillo fight.
I happen to agree 100%. Funny thing is, I was just about to ask: "I wonder what Mr. Nightmare thinks?"
Then you'd just be wondering what Bababooey thinks...heh heh heh.
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Amen!!!!!Why hate cause he is confident and successful???? cause you cant connect with him??? News flash he fights for himself not to pay for your cable bill or mortgage ...he fights for himself and his family thats what he does!!!!!!!! say what you want he is the best in the business right now till someone proves otherwise love it or hate it but deal with it cause it is your reality for a while!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wacko, you still can't prove that!!
Titofan, LOL.
jtrock, PBF should just say like Drago did, "I fight to win for me. . . . .for me!!"
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Stop!! Stop hating on a guy who has earned his #1 p4p ranking. He has many quality wins (Corrales, Castillo x 2, Manfredy, Gatti, Judah, and more). He has defense, speed, and power, and like RJJ in his prime, rarely loses a rd. Why people post things against this guy is beyond me. This nonsense about him ducking people is just stupid.
The only negative against this kid is, he DID lose the first Castillo fight.
If he stays at 147 0r 140 he is without a doubt the best p4p.......with Taylor being the 1a if he beats wright.....
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PBF is no Marvin haggler, no Tommy Hearns, and no Ray leanord....
All 3 above fought the BEST in their weight classes even moved up to fight the best, he has NOT fought the best and has not TRIED to fight the best, so he is NOT the best.....
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Originally Posted by Salhadin
PBF is no Marvin haggler, no Tommy Hearns, and no Ray leanord....
All 3 above fought the BEST in their weight classes even moved up to fight the best, he has NOT fought the best and has not TRIED to fight the best, so he is NOT the best.....
Well if you cant find the infohere maybe boxrec.com may have it junior!!!! castillo 2x judah,corralles 2 mention a few
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The best at 130(other then him) was Casamayor and Corrales, he got one, didn't get the other
The best ar 135 was Castillo, he beat him twice
The best at 140 was Hatton, he fought Gatti and Bruseles
The best at 147 is Baldomir, he fought Judah
The best at 154 is Winky, he hasn't fought him.
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You know, I really love Mayweather, but I think he's just a marketing genius... he's got an amazing amount of talent, but he's hand picked his opponents (as any smart, business minded person would do) and because of that, I think we've been built up to see this indestructable image of the man that just isn't there. He's NOT a Leonard, or a Hearns, or a Hagler... he's just a very shrewd, very excellent boxer who has made a name for himself by taking the easiest road possible towards greatness. Now there's nothing wrong with that really, it's just hard for him to tout his "legacy" while doing it. If he buckles down and starts cleaning out a division, or starts fighting the people he knows he should, then he can silence all doubts and become "one of the greats." Until then, I'm just not going to be completely sold.
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Originally Posted by Starr
The best at 130(other then him) was Casamayor and Corrales, he got one, didn't get the other
The best ar 135 was Castillo, he beat him twice
The best at 140 was Hatton, he fought Gatti and Bruseles
The best at 147 is Baldomir, he fought Judah
The best at 154 is Winky, he hasn't fought him.
If you say so.....
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Floyd did win the first Castillo fight. Only the floyd haters believe he didn't.
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Floyd did win the first Castillo fight. Only the floyd haters believe he didn't.
Agreed 100%,PBF had bad night when he fought Castillo first time but he still won,give Castillo rematch, beat him easily and he is current P4P best boxer out there. ;)
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Floyd did win the first Castillo fight. Only the floyd haters believe he didn't.
I am a floyd fan but I know castillo won the fight.
it is ok floyd is human. he had a bad night
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Originally Posted by Starr
The best at 130(other then him) was Casamayor and Corrales, he got one, didn't get the other
The best ar 135 was Castillo, he beat him twice
The best at 140 was Hatton, he fought Gatti and Bruseles
The best at 147 is Baldomir, he fought Judah
The best at 154 is Winky, he hasn't fought him.
If you say so.....
this the dumb shat that topic is urging people to stop doing...
when floyd got to 140..hatton hadn't done shat..he had only recently beat Kt before the gatti fight so obviously he was already signed to fight gatti before hatton proved himself worthy..and floyd had already beat brussles before hatton beat KT...
and if floyd would have beat the hell out of baldomir...you'd be saying well he didn't beat judah, and judah's the best because he had an off night...then demand he fight judah...
so with idiot like you who can't admit you don't like him and no matter what he does you will have something to say...
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Originally Posted by Salhadin
PBF is no Marvin haggler, no Tommy Hearns, and no Ray leanord....
All 3 above fought the BEST in their weight classes even moved up to fight the best, he has NOT fought the best and has not TRIED to fight the best, so he is NOT the best.....
Ray leonards punk ass ran from pryor...and so did hearns because pryor beat him for the golden gloves titles so he didn't want to fight him as a pro...and neither of them fought mike macallum....
every fighter in the history can be critized for not fighting someone...that shit has lost its weight because its not even a legitimate knock anymore..it's impossible for fighters to fighter everybody nowadays..so come with something legitamate to criticize him with...
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Stop!! Stop hating on a guy who has earned his #1 p4p ranking. He has many quality wins (Corrales, Castillo x 2, Manfredy, Gatti, Judah, and more). He has defense, speed, and power, and like RJJ in his prime, rarely loses a rd. Why people post things against this guy is beyond me. This nonsense about him ducking people is just stupid.
The only negative against this kid is, he DID lose the first Castillo fight.
floyd is undefeated..period...so you think he lost...the judges thought otherwise...
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cosell
You know, I really love Mayweather, but I think he's just a marketing genius... he's got an amazing amount of talent, but he's hand picked his opponents (as any smart, business minded person would do) and because of that, I think we've been built up to see this indestructable image of the man that just isn't there. He's NOT a Leonard, or a Hearns, or a Hagler... he's just a very shrewd, very excellent boxer who has made a name for himself by taking the easiest road possible towards greatness. Now there's nothing wrong with that really, it's just hard for him to tout his "legacy" while doing it. If he buckles down and starts cleaning out a division, or starts fighting the people he knows he should, then he can silence all doubts and become "one of the greats." Until then, I'm just not going to be completely sold.
Genius points,absolute genius!!!!CC He started off his career in spectacular fashion but what has happened since then??? Jonesjunior....you ask what had Hatton done@140.....well what had Brusseles done? and Starr,to say Baldomir is the best at 147 is weak ass hating on Margarito,who EVERY mag and RESPEcTED/KNOWLEDGEABLE writer recognises as the best WW(no2 to Floyd now). If Baldomir himself says that Margarito is very powerful and he would not fight him(this after he sparred with him),calling him the best WW really does look meek,poor and is a further example of you letting personal opinion cloud judgement and no...I don' care about alphabet soup titles....
The thread title is weak simply because no-one is hating on Floyd....everyone just wants to see him fight dangerous people and in that aspect,Starr makes a good point.....he did not fight Casamayor,Spadafora,Dorin etc and his lack of quality opposition in the last 3(or is it 4 years)is a cause for concern.
Having said that,he is immensly talented,and that is 1 of the reasons I love watching the guy fight BUT I want to see him fight dangerous fighters,that is all and if P4P was based solely on talent,he would be number 1 by a country mile....but it's not just that which is why I have Winkus Maximus as number 1 ;D
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Yo The Game, did someone seriously say what has Hatton done at 140lbs.? ;D
That is an extremely ignorant statement. Well, he made "THE MAN" Tszyu quit on his stool and he unified two titles taking on awkward and rugged Carlos Maussa. All this while being 40-0 at 140lbs.
Interested to see Hatton this weekend. He cuts easily, so that just gets to me, because in America they just won't have the respect for him to keep fighting with a nasty gash on his face. Across the pond, they let him get away with some ugly cuts. Over here in the States, we are total wimps when it comes to stopping fights based on cuts. I've seen some premature stoppages here in U.S. that I thought were horrible. I don't think they will be fair over here in U.S.
Hatton should win this fight that is coming up this weekend. I just wish Hatton never cut.
And man am I out of it!!! Can't even think!!! :D I'm talking like a robot here!
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Yo The Game, did someone seriously say what has Hatton done at 140lbs.? ;D
That is an extremely ignorant statement. Well, he made "THE MAN" Tszyu quit on his stool and he unified two titles taking on awkward and rugged Carlos Maussa. All this while being 40-0 at 140lbs.
Interested to see Hatton this weekend. He cuts easily, so that just gets to me, because in America they just won't have the respect for him to keep fighting with a nasty gash on his face. Across the pond, they let him get away with some ugly cuts. Over here in the States, we are total wimps when it comes to stopping fights based on cuts. I've seen some premature stoppages here in U.S. that I thought were horrible. I don't think they will be fair over here in U.S.
Hatton should win this fight that is coming up this weekend. I just wish Hatton never cut.
And man am I out of it!!! Can't even think!!! :D I'm talking like a robot here!
LOL,cc bro for staying awake,typing AND making sense!!!! Awesome stuff ! Yeah,I agree on the cuts issue,it could hinder him but it does not occur in every fight and as long as it is not serious enough to end the fight,a bit of blood will only make him look more warrior like,I remember Arce against Hussein Hussein(what a fight?!) and Arce looked cool with all that blood on his face but still coming out victorius,I remember the commentator's mentio0ning it!
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Yo The Game, did someone seriously say what has Hatton done at 140lbs.? ;D
That is an extremely ignorant statement. Well, he made "THE MAN" Tszyu quit on his stool and he unified two titles taking on awkward and rugged Carlos Maussa. All this while being 40-0 at 140lbs.
Interested to see Hatton this weekend. He cuts easily, so that just gets to me, because in America they just won't have the respect for him to keep fighting with a nasty gash on his face. Across the pond, they let him get away with some ugly cuts. Over here in the States, we are total wimps when it comes to stopping fights based on cuts. I've seen some premature stoppages here in U.S. that I thought were horrible. I don't think they will be fair over here in U.S.
Hatton should win this fight that is coming up this weekend. I just wish Hatton never cut.
And man am I out of it!!! Can't even think!!! :D I'm talking like a robot here!
LOL,cc bro for staying awake,typing AND making sense!!!! Awesome stuff ! Yeah,I agree on the cuts issue,it could hinder him but it does not occur in every fight and as long as it is not serious enough to end the fight,a bit of blood will only make him look more warrior like,I remember Arce against Hussein Hussein(what a fight?!) and Arce looked cool with all that blood on his face but still coming out victorius,I remember the commentator's mentio0ning it!
Can you beleive I saw that fight live?!? 8) I can't either! I swear Arce was on Cocaine that night!!! :D
I also looked down at my camera for one instant and I look up and Hussein was down!!! Missed the punched that turned everything around. cc u now or in 24 man.
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You lucky bastard!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
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You lucky B******!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
I tell you man, after EM PAC, I was on a Boxing High!!! The drive back home was so... so .. wonderful. hahaha Can't think of another name for it. But I drove to Vegas thinking Erik was the underdog to bet on and left knowing my favorite fighter proved all the naysayers wrong. ;D Great Night. Seen Erik fight Carlos Famosa Hernandez, Pacquiao I, and Barrera III.
As much as these guys love Mayweather, I doubt any of them paid over $200 for a seat and drove over 8 hours to see a Mayweather fight. heheh And I did this drive 3 times, with each time having a great night.
And the coca, heheh, I just never seen a fighter with that kind of look on his bloody face. Arce acted like the blood heightened his aggression, it was crazy-nuts!
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Originally Posted by The Game
You lucky B******!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
I tell you man, after EM PAC, I was on a Boxing High!!! The drive back home was so... so .. wonderful. hahaha Can't think of another name for it. But I drove to Vegas thinking Erik was the underdog to bet on and left knowing my favorite fighter proved all the naysayers wrong. ;D Great Night. Seen Erik fight Carlos Famosa Hernandez, Pacquiao I, and Barrera III.
As much as these guys love Mayweather, I doubt any of them paid over $200 for a seat and drove over 8 hours to see a Mayweather fight. heheh And I did this drive 3 times, with each time having a great night.
And the coca, heheh, I just never seen a fighter with that kind of look on his bloody face. Arce acted like the blood heightened his aggression, it was crazy-nuts!
Dang bro,that's true dedication and love for your favourite fighter and you've seen some awesome matches! What's the next one you're going to? You can bet your ass that if Floyd and Margarito fight,I'm going to fly stateside to watch it!!!!
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by The Game
You lucky B******!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
I tell you man, after EM PAC, I was on a Boxing High!!! The drive back home was so... so .. wonderful. hahaha Can't think of another name for it. But I drove to Vegas thinking Erik was the underdog to bet on and left knowing my favorite fighter proved all the naysayers wrong. ;D Great Night. Seen Erik fight Carlos Famosa Hernandez, Pacquiao I, and Barrera III.
As much as these guys love Mayweather, I doubt any of them paid over $200 for a seat and drove over 8 hours to see a Mayweather fight. heheh And I did this drive 3 times, with each time having a great night.
And the coca, heheh, I just never seen a fighter with that kind of look on his bloody face. Arce acted like the blood heightened his aggression, it was crazy-nuts!
Dang bro,that's true dedication and love for your favourite fighter and you've seen some awesome matches! What's the next one you're going to? You can bet your a** that if Floyd and Margarito fight,I'm going to fly stateside to watch it!!!!
Yeah, EM made it easy for any fan. He had so many historic fights that people just don't even know. heh If that makes sense. I think he said it best, that expectations for EM had always been high.
If I get a nice job soon, I may try to make it to Castillo Corrales III. Now this is one I'm not big on, because I think Diego will lose, but one of my buddies wants to go, so I wouldn't mind going to that one just to meet all the boxers and press and Diego just might pull something off that night and the fight will be exciting no matter what.
But there haven't been any fights I want to go to soon.
Fights that just say,"YOUR GONNA MISS A CLASSIC NIGHT!" A Morales fight was always special man. You and I know this, he's the only Mexican Star to match Julio Cesar Chavez three division champ record. Marco doesn't count because Chavez never cared about the WBO back then. ;) I'm not Mexican, but on a Morales fight, I always was. :) :) :) The crowd goes CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZYY!!!! On Fight Night.
If I were a Barrera fan or Juarez fan, I'd go to Vegas to see that. Juarez will make it a fight. BTW Barrera will choose to box over a fight any day. Never liked how Barrera milked Morales wins for long lengths of time and went on his slow methodical fights against low low competition, while Erik always tried to make history and always seemed to fall short of TOTAL RESPECT in the boxing world. And by respect I mean # 1 pound for pound. 8)
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Originally Posted by The Game
You lucky B******!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
I tell you man, after EM PAC, I was on a Boxing High!!! The drive back home was so... so .. wonderful. hahaha Can't think of another name for it. But I drove to Vegas thinking Erik was the underdog to bet on and left knowing my favorite fighter proved all the naysayers wrong. ;D Great Night. Seen Erik fight Carlos Famosa Hernandez, Pacquiao I, and Barrera III.
As much as these guys love Mayweather, I doubt any of them paid over $200 for a seat and drove over 8 hours to see a Mayweather fight. heheh And I did this drive 3 times, with each time having a great night.
And the coca, heheh, I just never seen a fighter with that kind of look on his bloody face. Arce acted like the blood heightened his aggression, it was crazy-nuts!
pbf is a great boxer. nothing else about his style attracts me to watch him fight. he's fast but he doesn't put on combos like dlh and punch like zab or maryoga. to me, he's in the same category as winky, bernard...
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by The Game
You lucky B******!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
I tell you man, after EM PAC, I was on a Boxing High!!! The drive back home was so... so .. wonderful. hahaha Can't think of another name for it. But I drove to Vegas thinking Erik was the underdog to bet on and left knowing my favorite fighter proved all the naysayers wrong. ;D Great Night. Seen Erik fight Carlos Famosa Hernandez, Pacquiao I, and Barrera III.
As much as these guys love Mayweather, I doubt any of them paid over $200 for a seat and drove over 8 hours to see a Mayweather fight. heheh And I did this drive 3 times, with each time having a great night.
And the coca, heheh, I just never seen a fighter with that kind of look on his bloody face. Arce acted like the blood heightened his aggression, it was crazy-nuts!
pbf is a great boxer. nothing else about his style attracts me to watch him fight. he's fast but he doesn't put on combos like dlh and punch like zab or maryoga. to me, he's in the same category as winky, bernard...
Agreed. Most of the time he breaks down a fighter using his smarts, speed, and athletic foot movement. He does get overly cautious at times. I've seen Mayweather go for the kill though. But only when it's ready to be taken. People who love Winkster, Late Bernard, or a Floyd Mayweather won't drive 8 hours, buy $250 seats and come home driving knowing they saw a classic night. heheh I'm sorry, but I just think a real fight fans will pay a hefty sum and sacrafice much to see a REAL FIGHT and not defensive wizardry. Although Hopkins does trick many in his tough prison talk ways, that he will make it a WAR, but in the end he never really delivers on his WAR FIGHTS nowadays. Winky, the best defensive fighter in the game, is just too damn good that he's too boring to even think about going to Vegas to watch him. :D I can imagine the crowd's electricity,"OHH DAMN LOOK AT THAT DEFENSE!" heheh ;D
A defensive fighter, IMO, will always be jealous of what an offensive fighter can do to a crowd of 15,000 screaming-roaring fans.
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No one can deny his ability!
The reason why it took so long for him to become PPV and why people talk bad about him is because his attitude is all wrong. Cocky and arrogant
If he composed himself like Ricky he would be more popular and a bigger draw than he his now
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No one can deny his ability!
The reason why it took so long for him to become PPV and why people talk bad about him is because his attitude is all wrong. Cocky and arrogant
If he composed himself like Ricky he would be more popular and a bigger draw than he his now
I've thought about that too, but I'm not sold on that right now as of yet. ???
Although Floyd is known to hate the press.
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Stop!! Stop hating on a guy who has earned his #1 p4p ranking. He has many quality wins (Corrales, Castillo x 2, Manfredy, Gatti, Judah, and more). He has defense, speed, and power, and like RJJ in his prime, rarely loses a rd. Why people post things against this guy is beyond me. This nonsense about him ducking people is just stupid.
The only negative against this kid is, he DID lose the first Castillo fight.
And just like Roy it's his attitude that is annoying....Floyd is just to smug for his own good.....I respect him for his boxing skill's but he need's to keep his mouth shut once in a while...Pretty much ( no pun intended ) since HIS public claims of being better than Ray Robinson EVER was turned me into a hater...Ray accomplished and fought tougher fighters than PBF could imagine...Compare resumes....
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You lucky B******!!!!! Sooo,you saw EM take Pacman tooooo....noooo fair!!! What makes you say he was on the cocaina? He just looked super hyped to me! LOL,now how the heck did you miss that punch?!?!? What were you thinking bro??!
I tell you man, after EM PAC, I was on a Boxing High!!! The drive back home was so... so .. wonderful. hahaha Can't think of another name for it. But I drove to Vegas thinking Erik was the underdog to bet on and left knowing my favorite fighter proved all the naysayers wrong. ;D Great Night. Seen Erik fight Carlos Famosa Hernandez, Pacquiao I, and Barrera III.
As much as these guys love Mayweather, I doubt any of them paid over $200 for a seat and drove over 8 hours to see a Mayweather fight. heheh And I did this drive 3 times, with each time having a great night.
And the coca, heheh, I just never seen a fighter with that kind of look on his bloody face. Arce acted like the blood heightened his aggression, it was crazy-nuts!
Dang bro,that's true dedication and love for your favourite fighter and you've seen some awesome matches! What's the next one you're going to? You can bet your a** that if Floyd and Margarito fight,I'm going to fly stateside to watch it!!!!
Yeah, EM made it easy for any fan. He had so many historic fights that people just don't even know. heh If that makes sense. I think he said it best, that expectations for EM had always been high.
If I get a nice job soon, I may try to make it to Castillo Corrales III. Now this is one I'm not big on, because I think Diego will lose, but one of my buddies wants to go, so I wouldn't mind going to that one just to meet all the boxers and press and Diego just might pull something off that night and the fight will be exciting no matter what.
But there haven't been any fights I want to go to soon.
Fights that just say,"YOUR GONNA MISS A CLASSIC NIGHT!" A Morales fight was always special man. You and I know this, he's the only Mexican Star to match Julio Cesar Chavez three division champ record. Marco doesn't count because Chavez never cared about the WBO back then. ;) I'm not Mexican, but on a Morales fight, I always was. :) :) :) The crowd goes CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZYY!!!! On Fight Night.
If I were a Barrera fan or Juarez fan, I'd go to Vegas to see that. Juarez will make it a fight. BTW Barrera will choose to box over a fight any day. Never liked how Barrera milked Morales wins for long lengths of time and went on his slow methodical fights against low low competition, while Erik always tried to make history and always seemed to fall short of TOTAL RESPECT in the boxing world. And by respect I mean # 1 pound for pound. 8)
Agreed 10000% completely,I don't think we are ever going to disagree but then again,great minds think alike! Em is a total legend and his resume is better than anyone out there,period! I guess he epitomises the Mexican spirit,proud warriors,and he's from the rough sides of Mexico,Tijuana which maybe makes it easier for the fans to relate to him. I'm guessing you are not an MAB fan. I love that guy too but prefer EM is a fighter although in real life,I've heard EM is an arrogant jackass whereas MAB is a gentleman.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cosell
You know, I really love Mayweather, but I think he's just a marketing genius... he's got an amazing amount of talent, but he's hand picked his opponents (as any smart, business minded person would do) and because of that, I think we've been built up to see this indestructable image of the man that just isn't there. He's NOT a Leonard, or a Hearns, or a Hagler... he's just a very shrewd, very excellent boxer who has made a name for himself by taking the easiest road possible towards greatness. Now there's nothing wrong with that really, it's just hard for him to tout his "legacy" while doing it. If he buckles down and starts cleaning out a division, or starts fighting the people he knows he should, then he can silence all doubts and become "one of the greats." Until then, I'm just not going to be completely sold.
I agree except the part about him being a marketing genius. If he was then more people outside of us die hard fans would know his name ;)
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The best at 130(other then him) was Casamayor and Corrales, he got one, didn't get the other
The best ar 135 was Castillo, he beat him twice
The best at 140 was Hatton, he fought Gatti and Bruseles
The best at 147 is Baldomir, he fought Judah
The best at 154 is Winky, he hasn't fought him.
If you say so.....
this the dumb shat that topic is urging people to stop doing...
when floyd got to 140..hatton hadn't done shat..he had only recently beat Kt before the gatti fight so obviously he was already signed to fight gatti before hatton proved himself worthy..and floyd had already beat brussles before hatton beat KT...
and if floyd would have beat the hell out of baldomir...you'd be saying well he didn't beat judah, and judah's the best because he had an off night...then demand he fight judah...
so with idiot like you who can't admit you don't like him and no matter what he does you will have something to say...
I agree with Starr to an extent here. Sorry JonesJrMayweather but whether you like Baldomir or not, he beat THE MAN at welterweight (seeing as Zab was undisputed champ) and therefore he becomes THE MAN. Anyone who wants to give themself the king of the division title has to go throught him. The same with Hatton at junior welter. Floyd hasnt eliminated the champ in either division and whether or not you think he would beat them, he hasnt so you nor Floyd can really claim hes great at these weights. I will admit Floyd was immense early in his career, but he has to clean out these divisions hes racing through or at the least beat the recognised champ if he wants to proclaim further greatness.
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All that being said...we'll have one hell of a mess on our hands @ 147lbs if this happens:
Gatti beats Baldomir
Hatton beats Collazo
One of those has to face either Floyd or Margarito...& those two want to face each other...
Hence the mess.
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...unless we get Hatton vs Gatti...which I believe that we will.
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Its pointless to tell people who they can or can't like. I can't stand Wlad and I'm not really sure why, I just don't like him. Floyd's an exciting fighter, and now that he's back to fighting elite guys again, assuming the Oscar fight comes off, then I don't have anything to complain about with him. But some people will dislike him no matter what, but who cares.
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You know, I really love Mayweather, but I think he's just a marketing genius... he's got an amazing amount of talent, but he's hand picked his opponents (as any smart, business minded person would do) and because of that, I think we've been built up to see this indestructable image of the man that just isn't there. He's NOT a Leonard, or a Hearns, or a Hagler... he's just a very shrewd, very excellent boxer who has made a name for himself by taking the easiest road possible towards greatness. Now there's nothing wrong with that really, it's just hard for him to tout his "legacy" while doing it. If he buckles down and starts cleaning out a division, or starts fighting the people he knows he should, then he can silence all doubts and become "one of the greats." Until then, I'm just not going to be completely sold.
I agree except the part about him being a marketing genius. If he was then more people outside of us die hard fans would know his name ;)
Good point, maybe "genius" was a bit too strong of a word, however, as popular as boxing is these days, if Jesus Christ decided to lace them up, even he would probably have a hard time getting noticed outside of die hard boxing fans
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All that being said...we'll have one hell of a mess on our hands @ 147lbs if this happens:
Gatti beats Baldomir
Hatton beats Collazo
One of those has to face either Floyd or Margarito...& those two want to face each other...
Hence the mess.
Never thought about that, that will be an almighty mess. And with Ricky openly stating he'll jump around the weights to face Cotto, Coralles, Castillo and or whoever this all could get very confusing.
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The best at 130(other then him) was Casamayor and Corrales, he got one, didn't get the other
The best ar 135 was Castillo, he beat him twice
The best at 140 was Hatton, he fought Gatti and Bruseles
The best at 147 is Baldomir, he fought Judah
The best at 154 is Winky, he hasn't fought him.
If you say so.....
this the dumb shat that topic is urging people to stop doing...
when floyd got to 140..hatton hadn't done shat..he had only recently beat Kt before the gatti fight so obviously he was already signed to fight gatti before hatton proved himself worthy..and floyd had already beat brussles before hatton beat KT...
and if floyd would have beat the hell out of baldomir...you'd be saying well he didn't beat judah, and judah's the best because he had an off night...then demand he fight judah...
so with idiot like you who can't admit you don't like him and no matter what he does you will have something to say...
I agree with Starr to an extent here. Sorry JonesJrMayweather but whether you like Baldomir or not, he beat THE MAN at welterweight (seeing as Zab was undisputed champ) and therefore he becomes THE MAN. Anyone who wants to give themself the king of the division title has to go throught him. The same with Hatton at junior welter. Floyd hasnt eliminated the champ in either division and whether or not you think he would beat them, he hasnt so you nor Floyd can really claim hes great at these weights. I will admit Floyd was immense early in his career, but he has to clean out these divisions hes racing through or at the least beat the recognised champ if he wants to proclaim further greatness.
you can't be serious...if floyd would have kicked the saht out of baldomir that would have satisfied you? You're telling me that you wouldn't have demanded that he still fight judah? and had he refused you wouldn't have accused him of ducking?
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The fact of the matter is, Baldomir is the CHAMP agt welterweight, he beat the recognised champ and is therfore himself the champ. I personally wouldnt of cared if Floyd fought Judah, I dont believe after his displays he desrved to fight for the title again or fight Floyd. However I can see how the boxing public would demand it.
My very simple point. In any situation where you have a clear champion, which Zab was before the Baldomir, the person that beats him is obviously then the champ. No matter what you, the media or anyone thinks, surely Floyd then cant go around claiming to be the champ without actually having beaten THE CHAMP. There is no doubt in my mind that Floyd SHOULD beat Baldomir, but that doesnt stop the fact that he has to be beat him to justify his boasts of being the best and the champion.
(I noticed I used the word champ a lot, sorry if it reads badly beacuse of it)
