De la Hoya sets date for 'superfight' with Mayweather

De la Hoya sets date for 'superfight' with Mayweather
By Steve Bunce

Published: May 08 2006
http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/ind...howtopic=58029

Two years ago Oscar de la Hoya had his eye on Floyd Mayweather, but at the time more than two stone in weight separated the pair.

On Saturday night in Las Vegas, De la Hoya ended a two-year exile from the ring with arguably his finest-ever performance to stop Ricardo Mayorga in the sixth round to win the World Boxing Council light middleweight title.

De la Hoya, now 33, has held world titles at six weights in what has been one of boxing's most glorious careers, and he insists that he has just one fight left - and he has picked Mayweather for 16 September. Mayweather is the International Boxing Federation welterweight champion, which means that the pair, who once seemed destined never to meet, are now separated by just 7lb in weight; there shall inevitably be a compromise because their superfight would generate a payday in excess of $25m (£13.4m) for each of them.

However, there is a slight problem as De la Hoya has Mayweather's estranged father, also called Floyd, in his corner, and it remains to be seen just how much hostility exists between father and son. Mayweather has another problem because his uncle, Roger Mayweather, who is his trainer, has been banned from working in the corner because of a mêlée during a title fight last month.

On Saturday night De la Hoya, after three months of insults and physical abuse from Mayorga, fought a brilliant tactical fight that left the champion broken-hearted in round six.

From the opening bell it was evident that De la Hoya had prepared perfectly, and that Mayorga clearly believed trading insults and slaps during their long rally of press conferences would give him the edge in the ring. In round one Mayorga was dropped by a left hook and took a steady beating until he turned and dropped to the canvas in round six.

It was De la Hoya's 38th win in 42 fights, and there have been some modern classics involved during his 12 years as a world champion in various weight divisions; but it's doubtful that any of his previous performances were better.

All I can say is wow...it's one fight I can't decide on who has the most leverage and September can't come fast enough

So Hatton and Margarito get snubbed. I don't have much pity for Hatton getting snubbed since he chose to fight paper champs Maussa and Collazo after beating hall of famer Kosta Tszyu. If Hatton had fought credible fighters he would have had my sympathy.

But Margarito deserves a shot at the big time, even more than Mayweather, because Margarito has long proven his mettle and his worth at 147.

Now if Mayweather beats Oscar on Sept 16th, I can see Mayweather willingly refusing to give Margarito or Hatton, any shot at him. I see Mayweather doing a rematch with Judah, and then fighting the winner of Vargas/Mosely.

why? lol

some things just don't make any sense and vargas/mosley doesn't for mayweather

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So Hatton and Margarito get snubbed. I don't have much pity for Hatton getting snubbed since he chose to fight paper champs Maussa and Collazo after beating hall of famer Kosta Tszyu. If Hatton had fought credible fighters he would have had my sympathy.

But Margarito deserves a shot at the big time, even more than Mayweather, because Margarito has long proven his mettle and his worth at 147.

Now if Mayweather beats Oscar on Sept 16th, I can see Mayweather willingly refusing to give Margarito or Hatton, any shot at him. I see Mayweather doing a rematch with Judah, and then fighting the winner of Vargas/Mosely.

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If Floyd wins I also can see him snubbing Margarito, but there's no way he would snub Hatton. If everything goes according to plan, Hatton would be the overwhealming fan favorite to fight Floyd, as well as present the highest payday. One thing is certain though, the winner of DLH-Mayweather will be the fighter of the year.

why is this fight happening ??? Because Oscar De La Hoya is the money man and Mayweather is all about money. There are fights that he can cement his legacy on like Margarito and Hatton which he has style advantages over. Beating Oscar will just give him a name and he'll be discredited IF he beat Oscar. He should have taken the Hatton and Margarito fights before putting himself at this risk.

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Originally Posted by Starr

why is this fight happening ??? Because Oscar De La Hoya is the money man and Mayweather is all about money. There are fights that he can cement his legacy on like Margarito and Hatton which he has style advantages over. Beating Oscar will just give him a name and he'll be discredited IF he beat Oscar. He should have taken the Hatton and Margarito fights before putting himself at this risk.

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of course it's happening because of money. ??? ???

why is that at all surprising? he'll have time to fight hatton (and margarito if necessary) later -- this is the one chance to get de la hoya. every boxer out there in this weight range, hatton and margarito included, would jump to fight ODH over anyone else. why? because of the money. it's not just a floyd thing.

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why is this fight happening ??? Because Oscar De La Hoya is the money man and Mayweather is all about money. There are fights that he can cement his legacy on like Margarito and Hatton which he has style advantages over. Beating Oscar will just give him a name and he'll be discredited IF he beat Oscar. He should have taken the Hatton and Margarito fights before putting himself at this risk.

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of course it's happening because of money. ??? ???

why is that at all surprising? he'll have time to fight hatton (and margarito if necessary) later -- this is the one chance to get de la hoya. every boxer out there in this weight range, hatton and margarito included, would jump to fight ODH over anyone else. why? because of the money. it's not just a floyd thing.

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Exactly!

Given the choice of earning in excess of $25m for one fight and or facing dangerous guys to cement your legacy isn't really a choice is it? ;)

and anyway Floyd fighting De La Hoya is the biggest risk he's been willing to take in an extremely lonnnnnnnggggggggggggg time

If Floyd loses, Margarito and Hatton don't happen ;)

So this fight is 100% done deal then? If so I can't wait till Sep. If PBF wins then I garuntee that he will fight Hatton next because thats where the money will be, and if I don't recall floyd said "if it makes money if makes sense" right.

Only 5 fighters in boxing history have ever made $20 million or more for a single fight: Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Douglas, and Oscar. If you have a chance to be number 6, you'd be a retard not to take the fight.

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Originally Posted by Starr

If Floyd loses, Margarito and Hatton don't happen ;)

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that's a different point, but i'm not sure it's true anyway.

in any case: 1. floyd makes more for fighting ODH than for those two fights combined and 2. i don't think floyd'll lose. the odds are probably not too far off what they'd be against hatton. and if the odds are worse for floyd--which i'm guessing they will be, if only somewhat, then you REALLY shouldn't be complaining about him taking this fight.

now we'll have Hatton vs Gatti. just thinking about it makes me shudder.

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Originally Posted by clean

Only 5 fighters in boxing history have ever made $20 million or more for a single fight: Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Douglas, and Oscar. If you have a chance to be number 6, you'd be a retard not to take the fight.

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;D ;D cool click.

Why criticize Mayweather for taking this fight? The money is remarkable. On top of that, I think DLH is his greatest challenge right now. Hatton and Margarito wouldn't give him as much trouble as DLH in my opinion. And this is fitting... the old master in DLH holding the torch, prepared to give it to PBF should he earn it.

Imagine if DLH knocks Floyd out, picks up the mic and says, "Thanks everyone, I retire"

That would be Huuuuuge

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If Floyd loses, Margarito and Hatton don't happen ;)

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And if he wins apart from the once in a lifetime $25m for one fight oppotunity, his earning power and "star status" has rocketed.... and i'm pretty sure, in the long run, helping Hatton and Margirito in the event of them fights happening

Its a no brainer ;)

Anyone know where this fight is taking place? When tickets go on sale?

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If Floyd loses, Margarito and Hatton don't happen ;)

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If he makes 25 million in one night...with Oscar...he has to make 8 or 10 million a night on Hatton or Margarito?

I'll take the name & the 5 to 12 extra mill for one night's work any day. YOu would too. We all would...least I think that we would.

He beats Oscar he can then get Hatton & Marg.

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Anyone know where this fight is taking place? When tickets go on sale?

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Don't know about when tickets will go on sale but I'd bet anything it will be in Vegas. The betting action this fight is gonna draw makes it almost certain.

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Anyone know where this fight is taking place? When tickets go on sale?

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Don't know about when tickets will go on sale but I'd bet anything it will be in Vegas. The betting action this fight is gonna draw makes it almost certain.

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Except that if it's in Vegas, no Roger Mayweather.

They'll probably do it there anyway, a fight this huge.

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If Floyd loses, Margarito and Hatton don't happen ;)

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If he makes 25 million in one night...with Oscar...he has to make 8 or 10 million a night on Hatton or Margarito?

I'll take the name & the 5 to 12 extra mill for one night's work any day. YOu would too. We all would...least I think that we would.

He beats Oscar he can then get Hatton & Marg.

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Exactly. And if DLH beats PBF, then we should be begging to see DLH vs Margarito and Hatton at 147.

IF DLH gets by PBF, I think he could do in Hatton and Margarito as well... imagine that legacy. That would be huge.

GOOD... Now when Mayweather out boxes Delahoya, Hatton's victory over Floyd will be all the more sweeter !! :lickish:

Wacko, where's this article lifted from? Any confirmation elsewhere? Any word on what weight they'll fight at? I'd really hate to see Floyd go up to 154.

PBF is the best available fight. But a Trinidad rematch is worth much more. Oscar is a businessman before a boxer.

My guess is he uses the Mayweather father-son beef to pass this fight up, and go at Tito again.

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Originally Posted by BigMix27

So Hatton and Margarito get snubbed. I don't have much pity for Hatton getting snubbed since he chose to fight paper champs Maussa and Collazo after beating hall of famer Kosta Tszyu. If Hatton had fought credible fighters he would have had my sympathy.

But Margarito deserves a shot at the big time, even more than Mayweather, because Margarito has long proven his mettle and his worth at 147.

Now if Mayweather beats Oscar on Sept 16th, I can see Mayweather willingly refusing to give Margarito or Hatton, any shot at him. I see Mayweather doing a rematch with Judah, and then fighting the winner of Vargas/Mosely.

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Margarito hasnt fought anyone to warrant a shot at Mayhweather.

When he has fought the 2nd tier opponents like Gatti, Judah, Maussa and so on then he can say he deserves Flloyd.


And Hatton, is fighting, champions,. regardless of who they are, they are World Champions, and he admitted he doesnt want to fight Mayweather yet, so how is he getting snubbed?

The question is - from some pure level where boxing exists untouched by the real world - is DLH-PBF a fight that "moves boxing forward?" Is it a fight that, not made, leaves boxing incomplete? Or is it not about boxing really at all, but only about money and fame and chicks and glamour? In which case, one might argue, the fight should not take place.

That's not my question, however, and not my argument. Personally I want to see this fight, and I don't think boxing exists apart from its place in the real world. It is a dirty, nasty, brutal, bloody corrupt, sweaty, foolish, sometimes fixed, other times broken, sport, and there is no moving it forward to be had within the confines of history. Gotta love it just like it is.

Let'm fight, let'm earn their money, and let us watch.

That's boxing.

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My guess is he uses the Mayweather father-son beef to pass this fight up, and go at Tito again.

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father son beef would make this fight even more interesting. i see two promos
1. mayweather vs odh
2. father vs son
3. father vs uncle

this fight has to be kept in NYC, so that Uncle Mayweather can train Floyd.

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Only 5 fighters in boxing history have ever made $20 million or more for a single fight: Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Douglas, and Oscar. If you have a chance to be number 6, you'd be a retard not to take the fight.

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gerry cooney made $20 million for fighting lary holmes

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My guess is he uses the Mayweather father-son beef to pass this fight up, and go at Tito again.

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father son beef would make this fight even more interesting. i see two promos
1. mayweather vs odh
2. father vs son
3. father vs uncle

this fight has to be kept in NYC, so that Uncle Mayweather can train Floyd.

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Roger Mayweather can still train Floyd, he just can't be at the fight. A trainers job though is done in training, not ringside. Roger has assistant trainers on the team that work with Floyd throughout camp and one of them can simply be in his corner, it won't make a difference.

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Imagine if DLH knocks Floyd out, picks up the mic and says, "Thanks everyone, I retire"

That would be Huuuuuge

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:coolclick: Heh heh heh.

What would make it even better if grabbed his balls & hollered "Oscar out!" ;D

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Only 5 fighters in boxing history have ever made $20 million or more for a single fight: Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Douglas, and Oscar. If you have a chance to be number 6, you'd be a retard not to take the fight.

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gerry cooney made $20 million for fighting lary holmes

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Jerry Cooney made less than $2 million for fighting Larry Holmes.

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Imagine if DLH knocks Floyd out, picks up the mic and says, "Thanks everyone, I retire"

That would be Huuuuuge

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:coolclick: Heh heh heh.


What would make it even better if grabbed his balls & hollered "Oscar out!" ;D

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LMAO,cc Wack,that would be the funniest thing ever if he grabbed his balls and did that!! Wack,has this fight been 100% confirmed? I have not seen info anywhere else and what about Floyd Senior saying he would take no part in it! Boy he changed his mind quick!!

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Only 5 fighters in boxing history have ever made $20 million or more for a single fight: Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Douglas, and Oscar. If you have a chance to be number 6, you'd be a retard not to take the fight.

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gerry cooney made $20 million for fighting lary holmes

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Jerry Cooney made less than $2 million for fighting Larry Holmes.

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I don't know who Jerry Cooney is but watch legendary nights Holmes-Cooney. Merchant said Cooney made one of the biggest payday ever over $20 million dollars and it was the highest grossing fight ever at that time. of course now the highest grossing fight is lewis-tyson

Cooney didn't even make $20 million in his entire career earnings.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=5613&more=1

we all know its all about sept 16th, but WHERE? and when do tickets go on sale??? I need to collect my FREE $1500 dollar seats!!!!!!!!!!!

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Another :sadclick: for Sal

Yeah Sal, why do you do stupid stuff like that that takes up a whole page?

And this fight is NOT confirmed. It's a just wishful thinking on all of our parts. But if DLH passes on PBF, then PBF-Hatton should happen this year.

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Originally Posted by clean

Cooney didn't even make $20 million in his entire career earnings.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=5613&more=1

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eastside boxing's articles are written by guyz like you and me. Larry Merchant was the HBO broadcaster for that fight and he said in Legendary nights that cooney made $20 million, I think Larry is the more credible source. plus the fight drew huge attention worldwide. Larry Holmes vs. Gerry Cooney was one of the biggest closed-circuit/pay-per-view productions in history, broadcast to over 150 countries.