Interesting....hatton isnt as good out of manchester is he?

I told you all! I told ya that what hatton did to kostya wouldnt be tolerated in the US....and without his wrestling and his questionable tactics....he barely won. In most peoples opinions he lost the fight! He dont want no rematch with kostya i can tell yas that, it would be a different fight in the US! Go back to 140 ricky coz if you fight PBF your getting dominated! I know im gonna be sad clicked....i know im gonna be flamed but this shit is true. I like hatton, hes a nice bloke....i just dont like the way he fights!

Inexperienced ref still let him get away with stuff though. It was the ref's 2nd title fight ;D

Hatton is nowhere near Mayweather.

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I told you all! I told ya that what hatton did to kostya wouldnt be tolerated in the US....and without his wrestling and his questionable tactics....he barely won. In most peoples opinions he lost the fight! He dont want no rematch with kostya i can tell yas that, it would be a different fight in the US! Go back to 140 ricky coz if you fight PBF your getting dominated! I know im gonna be sad clicked....i know im gonna be flamed but this S*** is true. I like hatton, hes a nice bloke....i just dont like the way he fights!

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I agree 100% :). But i have always said that hatton was over rated. No hatton fan could look at that fight and still be as confident as they were before about him beating mayweather.

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Inexperienced ref still let him get away with stuff though. It was the ref's 2nd title fight ;D

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Hmm....so imagine what an experienced ref would do! Hattons wrestling was a huge factor against kostya, i hope kostya watches this fight! The wrestling tired kostya out but without kostya would of come on even stronger in the later rounds. If i remember correctly kostya had won the last 2 rounds before hatton hit him below the belt. Hatton fans can try and argue with me but hey guys the rules state "Mandatory 2 points or DQ" and neither happened. Thats controversial and always will be in my mind. Not one thing can change that!

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I told you all! I told ya that what hatton did to kostya wouldnt be tolerated in the US....and without his wrestling and his questionable tactics....he barely won. In most peoples opinions he lost the fight! He dont want no rematch with kostya i can tell yas that, it would be a different fight in the US! Go back to 140 ricky coz if you fight PBF your getting dominated! I know im gonna be sad clicked....i know im gonna be flamed but this S*** is true. I like hatton, hes a nice bloke....i just dont like the way he fights!

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he fights similar to Mayorga......a little better.....got LUCKY in this gift of a decision....COLLAZO deserves an immediate REMATCH!!!!!

If hatton fights PBF it would all depend on the Ref, so i have said a thousand times.

This ref would not even let them TRY to work on the inside...

seriously the way he body slammed Collazo I thought he was setting up for the peoples elbow.

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Inexperienced ref still let him get away with stuff though. It was the ref's 2nd title fight ;D

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Yeah, but NOTHING like the liberties to elbow, hold & rabbit punch from that Manchester ref vs Tszyu!!

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seriously the way he body slammed Collazo I thought he was setting up for the peoples elbow.

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Hes a fucking wrestler....finally i can say this with some bloody back up! Tonight proves it! Parris definately helped him against tszyu. If hattons holding wasnt allowed then kostya would of had more distance and then GOOD NIGHT RICKY! Kostya didnt hit hatton with full power coz he never had the chance coz parris let hatton push him around. Its bullshit and i hope its a reality check to hatton!

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I told you all! I told ya that what hatton did to kostya wouldnt be tolerated in the US....and without his wrestling and his questionable tactics....he barely won. In most peoples opinions he lost the fight! He dont want no rematch with kostya i can tell yas that, it would be a different fight in the US! Go back to 140 ricky coz if you fight PBF your getting dominated! I know im gonna be sad clicked....i know im gonna be flamed but this S*** is true. I like hatton, hes a nice bloke....i just dont like the way he fights!

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Good analysis. Hatton is a wrestler inside the ring. I've said it many times, if Tszyu wasn't being bullied around the ring with fouls, he'd land that right hand and you know th rest.

Now that I think about it Dela Hoya want to go out with a bang he should fight ricky destroy him, because he would and go out with his two last fight having been won by Ko. and walk into the sunset and at the same time set ricky staight.

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I told you all! I told ya that what hatton did to kostya wouldnt be tolerated in the US....and without his wrestling and his questionable tactics....he barely won. In most peoples opinions he lost the fight! He dont want no rematch with kostya i can tell yas that, it would be a different fight in the US! Go back to 140 ricky coz if you fight PBF your getting dominated! I know im gonna be sad clicked....i know im gonna be flamed but this S*** is true. I like hatton, hes a nice bloke....i just dont like the way he fights!

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one thing about hattons preparation that was always in the back of my mind. he only arrived in the US a week before the fight. seems very strange to me. the 7 pounds was certainly a bigger issue than i thought it was. however i do think a fight with mayweather is a different matter again. mayweather has come through more weight divisions than ricky so ricky will be the natural bigger man be it 140 or 147. that was a big man ricky fought last night. and no im not sad clicking you although i disagree wtih what u say :laugh:

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I told you all! I told ya that what hatton did to kostya wouldnt be tolerated in the US....and without his wrestling and his questionable tactics....he barely won. In most peoples opinions he lost the fight! He dont want no rematch with kostya i can tell yas that, it would be a different fight in the US! Go back to 140 ricky coz if you fight PBF your getting dominated! I know im gonna be sad clicked....i know im gonna be flamed but this S*** is true. I like hatton, hes a nice bloke....i just dont like the way he fights!

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one thing about hattons preparation that was always in the back of my mind. he only arrived in the US a week before the fight. seems very strange to me. the 7 pounds was certainly a bigger issue than i thought it was. however i do think a fight with mayweather is a different matter again. mayweather has come through more weight divisions than ricky so ricky will be the natural bigger man be it 140 or 147. that was a big man ricky fought last night. and no im not sad clicking you although i disagree wtih what u say :laugh:

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Man kostya only arrived about week before the fight against hatton...goes both ways i reckon.

LBSCFC - very interesting point about Hatton arriving only one week prior to the fight...


I know Kostya Tszyu, a guy who made his career on successful trips overseas, always insisted on 2 weeks... Maybe Ricky will try it next time.


It must be hard for British fighters though - look at the kind of fanatical support guys like Bruno/Naz/Benn/Hatton/Calzaghe get at home... Then they come to the States with a lot of hype and basically almost everybody wants to see them fall. It's no wonder they don't like going to the States and it's no wonder that they don't have particularly good records when they go over.


Barry McGuigan/Steve Cruz... Kelley nearly upstaged Naz.. come to think about it I don't think Naz had a decent fight on American soil - all his American performances were shit with the exception maybe of the Augie Sanchez fight. Then again that was against Augie Sanchez so that doesn't really say much. And today Hatton was nearly derailed at the first turn...

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Good analysis. Hatton is a wrestler inside the ring. I've said it many times, if Tszyu wasn't being bullied around the ring with fouls, he'd land that right hand and you know th rest.

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Did you watch the Tszyu fight at all??????

Ricky Hatton did get hit with the big right hand and he walked through it Tszyu couldn't handle the heat and folded up. Get over it.

I thought the southpaw factor was bigger than the weight factor, but Collazo was a big natural welter with a good chin.

Yeah right, of course Hatton must be sh*t!!! While US fighters like Zab are still the dog's!!! At least try to be a little more unbiased. No matter what happened, Hatton was gonna be a looser today. If the fight was won to easily, you'd all be saying that he was fighting a nobody.
I can't believe that you all are still going on about the Kosta fight. Most people outside the US agree that Kostya was comprehensively beaten, Kostya included. Let me just understand this, a nobody like Hatton roughed up one of the most experienced and knowledgable champions out there. So what exactly was the reason for Kostya quiting on his stool then?? You all know that if Zab had done the same thing in his fight, you'd all be saying what an intelligent fight he fought, and how he's matured as a fighter.
I'm not saying that some UK fighters arn't over rated, but not more than some US fighters. Joe C wasn't even given a hope against ur second coming, Lacy, and look what happened. People are still claiming that Benn was average, and still find fault with his beating of McClennen. Lewis took ages to get any sort of credit as heavy-weight champ, even though he beat everybody.
This was Hatton's first big fight in the US, and he was clearly trying to put on a show. As for he should not fight in Manchester, why not? Because if he fights in the US, especially with fans like you, the crowd is gonna be less biased towards PBF? Because in the US refs arn't influenced at all right??!!??

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Yeah right, of course Hatton must be sh*t!!! While US fighters like Zab are still the dog's!!! At least try to be a little more unbiased. No matter what happened, Hatton was gonna be a looser today. If the fight was won to easily, you'd all be saying that he was fighting a nobody.
I can't believe that you all are still going on about the Kosta fight. Most people outside the US agree that Kostya was comprehensively beaten, Kostya included. Let me just understand this, a nobody like Hatton roughed up one of the most experienced and knowledgable champions out there. So what exactly was the reason for Kostya quiting on his stool then?? You all know that if Zab had done the same thing in his fight, you'd all be saying what an intelligent fight he fought, and how he's matured as a fighter.
I'm not saying that some UK fighters are over rated, but not more than some US fighters. Joe C wasn't even given a hope against ur second coming, Lacy, and look what happened. People are still claiming that Benn was average, and still find fault with his beating of McClennen. Lewis took ages to get any sort of credit as heavy-weight champ, even though he beat everybody.
This was Hatton's first big fight in the US, and he was clearly trying to put on a show. As for he should not fight in Manchester, why not? Because if he fights in the US, especially with fans like you, the crowd is gonna be less biased towards PBF? Because in the US refs arn't influenced at all right??!!??

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Reason why he quit on his school! The reason was the fucking ILLEGAL LOW BLOW he landed in the 9th round. Id like to see you stand after that! Well didnt it show when hatton wasnt allowed to fight his little dirty wrestling game he struggled?

the only good thing to really come out of this fight was hatton proving his chin again. and at least he didn't get cut. but a pretty shite performance that he will definately not be pleased with.

:coolclick: for that :goodpost: sanj 16.

Hey Snakey, ask the man himself , KT said the better man won.
Now KT is doing his best work on the dance floor.
Shame he couldn't find that footwork when the ring was getting cut off by a marauding and NEW WORLD CHAMPION AT TWO WEIGHTS. ;D ;D ;)

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:coolclick: for that :goodpost: sanj 16.

Hey Snakey, ask the man himself , KT said the better man won.
Now KT is doing his best work on the dance floor.
Shame he couldn't find that footwork when the ring was getting cut off by a marauding and NEW WORLD CHAMPION AT TWO WEIGHTS. ;D ;D ;)

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Too bad hatton cant use his cheating style in the US mate coz if he faces anyone remotely good and with power he is getting KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT! Hatton wouldnt be able to maul KT in the US and you know it...it would be a different fight with hatton probably finishing on the canvas!

KT IS GONE SNAKEY, THE DREAM IS OVER, STICK TO THE BALLROOM DANCING IN FUTURE, HE WILL 'never' NEVER ever BEAT HATTON ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
Not even in Australia and not in Uzbekistan.
Is that clear? ;D

Also, Hatton just beat a tough WORLD CHAMPION in his own back yard, what have you got to say about that?

I know i'll be watching for Collazo fights in the future.

i dont think so snakey. hatton took the best tszyu had to offer and he could handle it. its been a while since i heard you winge about kostya so get it out of your system. you must have a lot built up.

He's right Snakey, KT hit Ricky with everything he had ans it wasn't enough.

Jbirdy and whirlwind...please prove it ;D Coz i dont think you can. Just look at the illegal blows kostya took in that fight, look at the wrestling hatton did....kostya never even got the chance to hit him hard while hatton was lying on his chest. This aint a whinge mate, this is just me bringing back something you all said i was wrong about.....but hey now that hatton LOST in america, yeah IMO he lost and he got very lucky. He didnt know what to do coz he thought the ref would let him hold and hit but guess what ricky...the rules do apply outside of your home country!

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Yeah right, of course Hatton must be sh*t!!! While US fighters like Zab are still the dog's!!! At least try to be a little more unbiased. No matter what happened, Hatton was gonna be a looser today. If the fight was won to easily, you'd all be saying that he was fighting a nobody.
I can't believe that you all are still going on about the Kosta fight. Most people outside the US agree that Kostya was comprehensively beaten, Kostya included. Let me just understand this, a nobody like Hatton roughed up one of the most experienced and knowledgable champions out there. So what exactly was the reason for Kostya quiting on his stool then?? You all know that if Zab had done the same thing in his fight, you'd all be saying what an intelligent fight he fought, and how he's matured as a fighter.
I'm not saying that some UK fighters are over rated, but not more than some US fighters. Joe C wasn't even given a hope against ur second coming, Lacy, and look what happened. People are still claiming that Benn was average, and still find fault with his beating of McClennen. Lewis took ages to get any sort of credit as heavy-weight champ, even though he beat everybody.
This was Hatton's first big fight in the US, and he was clearly trying to put on a show. As for he should not fight in Manchester, why not? Because if he fights in the US, especially with fans like you, the crowd is gonna be less biased towards PBF? Because in the US refs arn't influenced at all right??!!??

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Reason why he quit on his school! The reason was the F****** ILLEGAL LOW BLOW he landed in the 9th round. Id like to see you stand after that! Well didnt it show when hatton wasnt allowed to fight his little dirty wrestling game he struggled?

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Because Kostya didn't land any low blows himself during the fight? You might want to watch the fight again, a bit more closely. Personally I think that Kostya quit on his stool because he was knackered, being out fought and out hustled, and realised that there was nothing more to gain out of coming out for the next round. But what do I know, I'm not an american fight fan and therefore my opinion must be worth less than yours!

I thought that the Hatten vs Tszyu was an ugly, wrestling match with gloves that I enjoyed very much. I though boath fighters did some shait that wouldnt fly elswhere, but IMO (most) British fighters are bangers not boxers anyway. And that is how their refs do their job. Correct me if Im wrong.

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Yeah right, of course Hatton must be sh*t!!! While US fighters like Zab are still the dog's!!! At least try to be a little more unbiased. No matter what happened, Hatton was gonna be a looser today. If the fight was won to easily, you'd all be saying that he was fighting a nobody.
I can't believe that you all are still going on about the Kosta fight. Most people outside the US agree that Kostya was comprehensively beaten, Kostya included. Let me just understand this, a nobody like Hatton roughed up one of the most experienced and knowledgable champions out there. So what exactly was the reason for Kostya quiting on his stool then?? You all know that if Zab had done the same thing in his fight, you'd all be saying what an intelligent fight he fought, and how he's matured as a fighter.
I'm not saying that some UK fighters are over rated, but not more than some US fighters. Joe C wasn't even given a hope against ur second coming, Lacy, and look what happened. People are still claiming that Benn was average, and still find fault with his beating of McClennen. Lewis took ages to get any sort of credit as heavy-weight champ, even though he beat everybody.
This was Hatton's first big fight in the US, and he was clearly trying to put on a show. As for he should not fight in Manchester, why not? Because if he fights in the US, especially with fans like you, the crowd is gonna be less biased towards PBF? Because in the US refs arn't influenced at all right??!!??

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Reason why he quit on his school! The reason was the F****** ILLEGAL LOW BLOW he landed in the 9th round. Id like to see you stand after that! Well didnt it show when hatton wasnt allowed to fight his little dirty wrestling game he struggled?

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Because Kostya didn't land any low blows himself during the fight? You might want to watch the fight again, a bit more closely. Personally I think that Kostya quit on his stool because he was knackered, being out fought and out hustled, and realised that there was nothing more to gain out of coming out for the next round. But what do I know, I'm not an american fight fan and therefore my opinion must be worth less than yours!

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First off mate...i aint american, im australian! Those low blows were borderline, if ricky had balls in his belly button then fine its a low blow but they were nothing even close to what ricky did. Plus hatton was following through with elbows, leading with his head, holding and hitting and just plain wrestling. That shit wont fly anywhere out of britain!

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Yeah right, of course Hatton must be sh*t!!! While US fighters like Zab are still the dog's!!! At least try to be a little more unbiased. No matter what happened, Hatton was gonna be a looser today. If the fight was won to easily, you'd all be saying that he was fighting a nobody.
I can't believe that you all are still going on about the Kosta fight. Most people outside the US agree that Kostya was comprehensively beaten, Kostya included. Let me just understand this, a nobody like Hatton roughed up one of the most experienced and knowledgable champions out there. So what exactly was the reason for Kostya quiting on his stool then?? You all know that if Zab had done the same thing in his fight, you'd all be saying what an intelligent fight he fought, and how he's matured as a fighter.
I'm not saying that some UK fighters arn't over rated, but not more than some US fighters. Joe C wasn't even given a hope against ur second coming, Lacy, and look what happened. People are still claiming that Benn was average, and still find fault with his beating of McClennen. Lewis took ages to get any sort of credit as heavy-weight champ, even though he beat everybody.
This was Hatton's first big fight in the US, and he was clearly trying to put on a show. As for he should not fight in Manchester, why not? Because if he fights in the US, especially with fans like you, the crowd is gonna be less biased towards PBF? Because in the US refs arn't influenced at all right??!!??

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Thats Bullshit if Ricky looked good winning I would have gave him his credit!!!!He showed no defense,he looked ridicilously off balance at times when he would lead with the cross he had his knee in the air for christ sake!!!! not to mention he smothers alot of his power punches he looked amatureish bottom line that had nothing to do with Boston or Manchester!!!!!DUDES he wont get away with that style of fighting the PBF,COTTO God even Judah could out box this guy...HE needs alot more work I'm not saying he cant improve but he is a few years away...

Why would the big names want to fight Hatton???especially after that mediocre showing

money

whatever snakey. kostya was landing on hatton all the time. straight right cross at the beggining of nearly every round (except the 12th which kostya couldnt even make it out to). hatton was getting so close to stop tszyu from being able to that, but he was getting hit on the way in nearly every time.

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There is no money in the US for Hatton and he isint worth the competition yet for those guys to go to the UK

what are you talking about there is no money in the US for hatton? thats exactly where the money is to be made.

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what are you talking about there is no money in the US for hatton? thats exactly where the money is to be made.

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He has not proven himself in the US yet to get anygood publicity for a megafight and huge payday,after last nites performance he hardly left us on the edge of our couches wanting more again HE IS NOT READY!!!!!!!!!!

that is bollocks. if he went back to fighting in manchester then he would just get slated for that. he cant win. the only way he will boost his profile and earn your dollars is if he keeps on fighting in the US.

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that is bollocks. if he went back to fighting in manchester then he would just get slated for that. he cant win. the only way he will boost his profile and earn your dollars is if he keeps on fighting in the US.

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I agree with you but to say he is gonna get a big name fight and mega paydayright after that performance he better hope he gets a gift like WInky is getting after a similiar poor performance against Sam Soliman who in return he got rewarded with a shot at the middleweight superchamp. Winky at least payed his dues and beat solid competion Mosely 2x Trinidad etc.. Winky had to take his lumps but he finally arrived...Ricky has along way to go

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If hatton fights PBF it would all depend on the Ref, so i have said a thousand times.

This ref would not even let them TRY to work on the inside...

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Bull. Fighters win fights the ref will not influence PBF vs Mayweather if he is competent.

well yes he has a long way to go. but to get the fights he wants, earn the big money and to get the legacy he wants he's got to keep on fighting in the US. so i don't know what point your trying to make.

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well yes he has a long way to go. but to get the fights he wants, earn the big money and to get the legacy he wants he's got to keep on fighting in the US. so i don't know what point your trying to make.

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I did not get my point across correctly sorry,I am trying to say that there is no money attached to Ricky Hattons name inside the USat this time to get a big payday with a topflight Welterweight ;)

OK I said they would do it for the right price. U wanted a reason there it is. As far as Hatton getting the publicity, he goes out and fights a couple people to set up the big payday, like everybody else. And he still has to defend his title. Oh yea he is the JWW champ right? There is a couple bucks there. Besides some might want to fight him while they can still beat him, you know be for he learns defence.