The Hate for Ricky Hatton is unreal!!

Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Easy...youv'e been complaining about the same issues with the fight as some of us Yanks...so let's not all lump this against Americans.

Well the same thing has happened to Cotto, Wlad, Taylor and so on. I wouldn't make such a big deal out of it. Hatton will win over some fans, he has heart and carries himself with class, that's more than Zab Judah can say

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Easy...youv'e been complaining about the same issues with the fight as some of us Yanks...so let's not all lump this against Americans.

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No but it seems like alot of these threads it's the Brits against the Yanks, who can get one over on the other, now the American fans are saying told you so!!! because Ricky wasnt on top of his game, its quite silly we need to respect every boxer not his nationality, i have pointed out on many times about Rickys short comings in this fight, but the amount of garbage people are posting and yes 95% is from Americans is just way off what Ricky is about. Like i say it's way over the top considering some off the whoopings we have seen this year with not evene 10% of the insut Ricky is getting.

im not from america (i'm from London) but i could see why the americans are saying shit about hatton, he was supposed to hit the US like a 'STORM' and he has failed to do that and his style was exposed, YES by a bigger fighter, but you cant really argue about that because hatton wanted the fight, he weighed atleast 147 lb which is the limit but he had a height disadvantage and you cant say anything about that either its like saying tyson lost to lewis because his smaller/shorter

Let's not bring up the word YANKEE...I am American, I am no yankee. Yankee meant Rube or Bumpkin so on...and I am no RUBE sir!

It's not a thing of being american,because I'm puertorican so I don't know what the deal is with Yanks vs. Brits is there any.All I'm saying is that you guys make Hatton look as if he's #1 P4P and it's just because he's english.He doesn't look that impressive and any1 from outside U.K. will tell you so.

I loved seeing Calzaghe box Lacy ears off that night, cuz I give props to who deserves it,but Hatton only beat Tszyu with cheap tactics and all of a sudden he can take on any1 without being defeated and after Saturday's night I thought there was going to be a lot of clear minds after what happened,but It remains the same,the hardest step to overcome is DENIAL. ;)

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Most of the people actually down playing Ricky are new people who have shown more than once they know nothing about boxing... Also this is nowhere close to the heat Lacy got when he lost badly to Calzaghe... you guys where flaming him for like a month and any Lacy fan along with him. Also with Mayweather when his fight with Judah was to some close... you guys thought Hatton would kill him that Mayweather proved he was no1.

i didn't get to watch the fight(to pissed to try order it) but it seems like it was a close fight,
that been said Hatton's getting alot of stick, I think he's a good guy outside the ring who's pretty down to earth and doesn't slag of his opponents so I can't understand the hate towards him ???
He got stick 4 not fighting in America, but now he has and it seems people are now trying to find other reasons to hate on him. Also we've seen big upsets reasontly ( Zab, Morales, Brewster ) thats because its boxing and anything can happen, if Hatton had stopped him in the first minute he'd be getting stick 4 fighting a bum, but he's entertaining and fights with his heart on his sleve and digs deep! Maybe he'll lose to a big name soon, maybe not but he'll definitly give it his all and not quit! I'd like to see him fight Gatti, just because they are very similar and would both give it there all

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Most of the people actually down playing Ricky are new people who have shown more than once they know nothing about boxing... Also this is nowhere close to the heat Lacy got when he lost badly to Calzaghe... you guys where flaming him for like a month and any Lacy fan along with him. Also with Mayweather when his fight with Judah was to some close... you guys thought Hatton would kill him that Mayweather proved he was no1.

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People did give Lacy shat for months after the loss...

Granted is was much worse of a showing...but fact is fact...the poor kid caught hell.

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im not from america (i'm from London) but i could see why the americans are saying S*** about hatton, he was supposed to hit the US like a 'STORM' and he has failed to do that and his style was exposed, YES by a bigger fighter, but you cant really argue about that because hatton wanted the fight, he weighed atleast 147 lb which is the limit but he had a height disadvantage and you cant say anything about that either its like saying tyson lost to lewis because his smaller/shorter

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Nothing to do with the height, its the fact Hatton was fighting against the biggest guy he has ever fought and you could see he was the strongest aswell, which took alot out of Hatton as we saw, it's not easy moving up in weight, it's more the fact that you are dealing with physically bigger men in the ring, not height wise.


Also Lacy was fucking praised not slagged off!!!! For his courage!! Of most people anyway, also Hatton won the fight, unlike Lacy who was beaton badly in every round.

I just want to know what everyone thinks would have happened had Cotto fought Tszyu?

Next, I think Ricky is as always predicted on par with Cotto, they have their shortcomings but they have loads of heart and won't back down from anyone

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Most of the people actually down playing Ricky are new people who have shown more than once they know nothing about boxing... Also this is nowhere close to the heat Lacy got when he lost badly to Calzaghe... you guys where flaming him for like a month and any Lacy fan along with him. Also with Mayweather when his fight with Judah was to some close... you guys thought Hatton would kill him that Mayweather proved he was no1.

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Royal People did give Lacy shat for months after the loss...

Granted is was much worse of a showing...but fact is fact...the poor kid caught hell.

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yeah the stick Lacy got was way out of order, but that doesn't make it right to happen to other boxers
as well, I like both Lacy and Hatton at least they did what alot of boxers won't do and left home looking for a bigger challenge

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I just want to know what everyone thinks would have happened had Cotto fought Tszyu?

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If Cotto fought realistically...I think it would be a competitive fight...that's all I'm saying...but if Cotto fought like the twat he's been fighting like for the past year & a half...he'd be picking thread out from between his teef!

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Next, I think Ricky is as always predicted on par with Cotto, they have their shortcomings but they have loads of heart and won't back down from anyone

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Agreed. That will be a good fight if it materializes.

may I refer you to my learned friend .....
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...html#msg348979

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Whoooooooaaaaaaa there....You're comparing Hatton-Collazo to Calzaghe-Lacy? no comparison...Calzaghe is an excellent Boxer/Puncher....Hatton is a puncher/brawler at 140....don't get it twisted...Floyd's loss of hand speed was not noticable and he still has his power....Hatton looked slowww....Hatton's style is all wrong for bigger better fighters that know how to box.....and NEVER hurt Collazo....and the biggest factor of all for those that think Hatton is bigger than Floyd...Floyd is 5-8 with a 72" reach...Hatton is 5-6 with a 65" reach....Floyd can and will become a true welterweight...Hatton doesn't have the frame to effectively carry the extra weight....Hatton was succumbing to all the hits he took against Collazo and was out on his feet an very easily could and should have been KO instead he was able to hold on for dear life...he can't get out of the way of punches at this weight....Not only has this never happened to PBF he is as slick as he was at 140....Floyd didn't EAT his way to 147 he trained to get to 147.....Lacy was overhyped and still a little green to get in the ring with the likes of Calzaghe......Hatton was overhyped as well....Collazo won that fight...We'll see who wins in the rematch...

let not get this out of context Lacy got alot of heat as i had to ban a number of new members from the UK talking total crap about him after that fight... the regulars are pretty respectful and i will do the same for that craptalkers on hatton ;)

LawHoops is on a 3 day ban for that total tosh he posted about ricky and his family

my nightmare usually posts total tosh for effect then logs in under other accounts to pat himself on the back... but most people know he's just a bit unstable ;D

there are a few others but thats about it most of the stuff is just respecful debates for and against by the regulars... it happens after every big fight and will start dying down soon... look on the bright side the mayorga knockers have gone quite ;D

oh just one more thing... last 3 fight all against champions and... NEWWWW TWO WEIGHT CHAMPION ;D

that is all ;)

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Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Whoooooooaaaaaaa there....You're comparing Hatton-Collazo to Calzaghe-Lacy? no comparison...Calzaghe is an excellent Boxer/Puncher....Hatton is a puncher/brawler at 140....don't get it twisted...Floyd's loss of hand speed was not noticable and he still has his power....Hatton looked slowww....Hatton's style is all wrong for bigger better fighters that know how to box.....and NEVER hurt Collazo....and the biggest factor of all for those that think Hatton is bigger than Floyd...Floyd is 5-8 with a 72" reach...Hatton is 5-6 with a 65" reach....Floyd can and will become a true welterweight...Hatton doesn't have the frame to effectively carry the extra weight....Hatton was succumbing to all the hits he took against Collazo and was out on his feet an very easily could and should have been KO instead he was able to hold on for dear life...he can't get out of the way of punches at this weight....Not only has this never happened to PBF he is as slick as he was at 140....Floyd didn't EAT his way to 147 he trained to get to 147.....Lacy was overhyped and still a little green to get in the ring with the likes of Calzaghe......Hatton was overhyped as well....Collazo won that fight...We'll see who wins in the rematch...

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Get what twisted???

PBF can grow into the weight but Hatton cant?? How do you work that one out?? HATTON IS THE BIGGER MAN!!! So is corrlaes bigger than Tyson because he has a bigger height and reach difference?? Ricky is naturally bigger than Floyd. Also the compasions between the two fights wasnt the styles you muppet, try and read the thread next time before you comment, i was talking about the reaction of so called boxing fans, i was pointing out Hatton has got more stick than Lacy got and the difference being Ricky won and Lacy lost every round, my point was there is a bit of American told you so all over this, nothing to do with the styles.

I think, rather than generalising the americans, it's the fans of Hatton's rivals that are rubbishing him most (mayweather,cotto). Similar to how some Hatton fans would rubbish Mayweather or Cotto if they had a poor performance. I wouldn't say they know nothing about boxing, they're just supporting their guy and looking for weaknesses in their rivals.
IMO Hatton is still undisputed no.1 at 140, which gives him a right to stay high in the p4p rankings for the time being. This last fight shows that he will struggle against natural welters (Barry Mcguigan said himself before the Collazo fight he should stay away from Margarito, Oscar and even Baldomir).
But this performance IMO has no bearing on how he'd perform against Cotto or Mayweather, the attributes that Collazo had which troubled Hatton was his natural size and strebgth advantage, attributes which the other two don't have.

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Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Whoooooooaaaaaaa there....You're comparing Hatton-Collazo to Calzaghe-Lacy? no comparison...Calzaghe is an excellent Boxer/Puncher....Hatton is a puncher/brawler at 140....don't get it twisted...Floyd's loss of hand speed was not noticable and he still has his power....Hatton looked slowww....Hatton's style is all wrong for bigger better fighters that know how to box.....and NEVER hurt Collazo....and the biggest factor of all for those that think Hatton is bigger than Floyd...Floyd is 5-8 with a 72" reach...Hatton is 5-6 with a 65" reach....Floyd can and will become a true welterweight...Hatton doesn't have the frame to effectively carry the extra weight....Hatton was succumbing to all the hits he took against Collazo and was out on his feet an very easily could and should have been KO instead he was able to hold on for dear life...he can't get out of the way of punches at this weight....Not only has this never happened to PBF he is as slick as he was at 140....Floyd didn't EAT his way to 147 he trained to get to 147.....Lacy was overhyped and still a little green to get in the ring with the likes of Calzaghe......Hatton was overhyped as well....Collazo won that fight...We'll see who wins in the rematch...

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Get what twisted???

PBF can grow into the weight but Hatton cant?? How do you work that one out?? HATTON IS THE BIGGER MAN!!! So is corrlaes bigger than Tyson because he has a bigger height and reach difference?? Ricky is naturally bigger than Floyd. Also the compasions between the two fights wasnt the styles you muppet, try and read the thread next time before you comment, i was talking about the reaction of so called boxing fans, i was pointing out Hatton has got more stick than Lacy got and the difference being Ricky won and Lacy lost every round, my point was there is a bit of American told you so all over this, nothing to do with the styles.

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my reply was to the fact you think Hatton had an off night...he didn't...he finally stepped up in competition and had it handed to him....And as for hatton being bigger than Floyd your nuts...Floyd is broader than Hatton hence the 7 inch reach advantage....it's not just about arm reach it also includes finger tip to finger tip......So lets see.. Floyd is TALLER and WIDER!!! what the h*ll are you looking at Hatton with a magnifying glass? hatton looked SMALL agains Collazo...He will look SMALL compared to PBF...and to try to throw in a Corrales/Tyson comment? that was so far off it merits no additional response....

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It's not a thing of being american,because I'm puertorican so I don't know what the deal is with Yanks vs. Brits is there any.All I'm saying is that you guys make Hatton look as if he's #1 P4P and it's just because he's english.He doesn't look that impressive and any1 from outside U.K. will tell you so.

I loved seeing Calzaghe box Lacy ears off that night, cuz I give props to who deserves it,but Hatton only beat Tszyu with cheap tactics and all of a sudden he can take on any1 without being defeated and after Saturday's night I thought there was going to be a lot of clear minds after what happened,but It remains the same,the hardest step to overcome is DENIAL. ;)

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Bollocks........

Typical kneejerk reaction to a bad performance. That was Hatton's worst performance since he turned pro and he still won the fight, his first at 147. Us Brit's aren't in denial, we just know that he has a lot more to give. What if you judged Tysons career on his fight against McBride?

Don't write him off just yet, he's got the heart of a champ and unlike most of these yanks that just talk a good fight, he's willing to put his money where his mouth is and step up to fight the best........He's in it for the glory and that's what boxing is all about.

Hatton's world class, how you can say he beat Tszyu with cheap tactics a laughable, unless beating someone down is against the rules? It's a fight not a game of chess, fighters that moan are just pussy's.

explain how he can be taller and wider but still the same weight twat unless his got hollow bones or sumat

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Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Whoooooooaaaaaaa there....You're comparing Hatton-Collazo to Calzaghe-Lacy? no comparison...Calzaghe is an excellent Boxer/Puncher....Hatton is a puncher/brawler at 140....don't get it twisted...Floyd's loss of hand speed was not noticable and he still has his power....Hatton looked slowww....Hatton's style is all wrong for bigger better fighters that know how to box.....and NEVER hurt Collazo....and the biggest factor of all for those that think Hatton is bigger than Floyd...Floyd is 5-8 with a 72" reach...Hatton is 5-6 with a 65" reach....Floyd can and will become a true welterweight...Hatton doesn't have the frame to effectively carry the extra weight....Hatton was succumbing to all the hits he took against Collazo and was out on his feet an very easily could and should have been KO instead he was able to hold on for dear life...he can't get out of the way of punches at this weight....Not only has this never happened to PBF he is as slick as he was at 140....Floyd didn't EAT his way to 147 he trained to get to 147.....Lacy was overhyped and still a little green to get in the ring with the likes of Calzaghe......Hatton was overhyped as well....Collazo won that fight...We'll see who wins in the rematch...

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Get what twisted???

PBF can grow into the weight but Hatton cant?? How do you work that one out?? HATTON IS THE BIGGER MAN!!! So is corrlaes bigger than Tyson because he has a bigger height and reach difference?? Ricky is naturally bigger than Floyd. Also the compasions between the two fights wasnt the styles you muppet, try and read the thread next time before you comment, i was talking about the reaction of so called boxing fans, i was pointing out Hatton has got more stick than Lacy got and the difference being Ricky won and Lacy lost every round, my point was there is a bit of American told you so all over this, nothing to do with the styles.

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my reply was to the fact you think Hatton had an off night...he didn't...he finally stepped up in competition and had it handed to him....And as for hatton being bigger than Floyd your nuts...Floyd is broader than Hatton hence the 7 inch reach advantage....it's not just about arm reach it also includes finger tip to finger tip......So lets see.. Floyd is TALLER and WIDER!!! what the h*ll are you looking at Hatton with a magnifying glass? hatton looked SMALL agains Collazo...He will look SMALL compared to PBF...and to try to throw in a Corrales/Tyson comment? that was so far off it merits no additional response....

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fingertip to fingertip could just means his arms are longer, it doesn't mean he has a bigger frame

147 fights Hatton 158 lbs Mayweather 146 lbs

Hatton doesn't do anything more than what a prime Tyson did using elbows, shoulders, and head to boar in and work the body. It's a STYLE that has been proven effective for a long time now. I don't see why everyone is so hypercritical of it.

Hatton has the frame for Welterweight. If the 5'6 Carmen Basilio could go up to welter and trade SDs with Ray Robinson then Hatton can do the same with Floyd. It's not outside the realm of posibility that Floyd will be beat by someone sometime soon

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Well the same thing has happened to Cotto, Wlad, Taylor and so on. I wouldn't make such a big deal out of it. Hatton will win over some fans, he has heart and carries himself with class, that's more than Zab Judah can say

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You know Sal may castrate you for that...

Well show me when Zab has acted like a big boy and took responsibility for being such a dumbass at times...he didn't do it after choking Jay Nady, he didn't do it after GIVING AWAY the fight to Spinks, he didn't do it when he nailed Floyd in the nuts in fact he could have stayed OUT of trouble then but no he jumped in like some 13 year old wanna be gangbanger.

I thought this was an open board to criticize fighters. It isn't about hate. Judging a fighters performance, or saying he's crap doesn't mean you hate him.

He fought sloppy, and nowhere near his percieved P4P level. It's up to him to come back with a better performance to proove people wrong. I don't have a problem with territorial pride, but a person has to realize that they might look stupid claiming that one country is superior to another. It all depends on the fighter.

As for the Tyson/Hatton comparison, thats just non-sense. The only way they fight anything alike is that both come forward.

it does seem alot of people cant wait for Hatton to fall down, im just glad it wasnt the other night he managed to sneak the decision.

I'm from the U.S and I like Hatton, but just to point out the one thing that drove me crazy was the holding. He should be criticized for this, just like Ruiz is.

I do not think there is any 'hate' for Hatton on this board, with one exception, who I believe Saddo has given a few days off, to reflect.

Sooner or later Hatton was always going to be in a close fight, in which some on the board think Collazo nicked. I do not think he did, but I can respect and understand anyone who had it a draw or a Collazo win by a point, because after all 90% of scoring is personal interpretation of the rules.

And I do not like the dig at the American posters here, as has been pointed out, a lot of the Brits have criticized Hatton and some of the Americans on the board have come to his defence.

IMO 95% of the people who have criticized Hatton on this board, after his performance at the weekend, have done it very constructively and with sound reasoning.

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Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Whoooooooaaaaaaa there....You're comparing Hatton-Collazo to Calzaghe-Lacy? no comparison...Calzaghe is an excellent Boxer/Puncher....Hatton is a puncher/brawler at 140....don't get it twisted...Floyd's loss of hand speed was not noticable and he still has his power....Hatton looked slowww....Hatton's style is all wrong for bigger better fighters that know how to box.....and NEVER hurt Collazo....and the biggest factor of all for those that think Hatton is bigger than Floyd...Floyd is 5-8 with a 72" reach...Hatton is 5-6 with a 65" reach....Floyd can and will become a true welterweight...Hatton doesn't have the frame to effectively carry the extra weight....Hatton was succumbing to all the hits he took against Collazo and was out on his feet an very easily could and should have been KO instead he was able to hold on for dear life...he can't get out of the way of punches at this weight....Not only has this never happened to PBF he is as slick as he was at 140....Floyd didn't EAT his way to 147 he trained to get to 147.....Lacy was overhyped and still a little green to get in the ring with the likes of Calzaghe......Hatton was overhyped as well....Collazo won that fight...We'll see who wins in the rematch...

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Get what twisted???

PBF can grow into the weight but Hatton cant?? How do you work that one out?? HATTON IS THE BIGGER MAN!!! So is corrlaes bigger than Tyson because he has a bigger height and reach difference?? Ricky is naturally bigger than Floyd. Also the compasions between the two fights wasnt the styles you muppet, try and read the thread next time before you comment, i was talking about the reaction of so called boxing fans, i was pointing out Hatton has got more stick than Lacy got and the difference being Ricky won and Lacy lost every round, my point was there is a bit of American told you so all over this, nothing to do with the styles.

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my reply was to the fact you think Hatton had an off night...he didn't...he finally stepped up in competition and had it handed to him....And as for hatton being bigger than Floyd your nuts...Floyd is broader than Hatton hence the 7 inch reach advantage....it's not just about arm reach it also includes finger tip to finger tip......So lets see.. Floyd is TALLER and WIDER!!! what the h*ll are you looking at Hatton with a magnifying glass? hatton looked SMALL agains Collazo...He will look SMALL compared to PBF...and to try to throw in a Corrales/Tyson comment? that was so far off it merits no additional response....

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Collazo was underated, and turned out to be a GOOD fighter. But are you honestly going to tell me he's a step up from the GREAT CHAMPION Kostya Tsuyu. How often were you dropped on your head as a child exactly?????? While I wait for your "Kostya was shot" piece of crap response I would like to point out that Ricky is the reason Kostya is now semi retired, Ricky made him look old.

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explain how he can be taller and wider but still the same weight twat unless his got hollow bones or sumat

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And I do not like the dig at the American posters here, as has been pointed out, a lot of the Brits have criticized Hatton and some of the Americans on the board have come to his defence.

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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww...you love Wacko doncha? You really do! ;D

It's posters like this British kid that are going to bring this forum down!

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Well show me when Zab has acted like a big boy and took responsibility for being such a dumbass at times...he didn't do it after choking Jay Nady, he didn't do it after GIVING AWAY the fight to Spinks, he didn't do it when he nailed Floyd in the nuts in fact he could have stayed OUT of trouble then but no he jumped in like some 13 year old wanna be gangbanger.

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I agree, but Sal is still gonna attempt to castrate you :(

yeah hatton is taking a hell of a lot of shit on this site after saturday. but the hatton haters have always had something to moan about. and the statement that lacy took way more shit than hatton is from the calzaghe fight is bollocks. lacy's performance was completely overshadowed by everyone goin on about how awesome calzaghe was (fair enough) and how brave lacy was.
i say look at it this way, hatton once again showed his heart and still won the fight even when he was having a hell of an off night.

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Im sorry but some of you guys especially Americans are unbelievable it wasn't a great performance against a tricky bigger south paw, i didnt see 10% of the bullshit Ricky is getting for exposed Americans like Jeff Lacy, but Ricky Hatton has an off night and it's lets slag him off as much as possible, it is beyond pathetic.

He won and it was alot closer than alot of you guys think, there are at least 5 rounds which i wouldnt argue with any of the two guys getting, lets judge Ricky after he settles in at 147, i mean Floyd looked good in his 147 debut against a 140 lb has been, so lets sit back and see what happens.

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Whoooooooaaaaaaa there....You're comparing Hatton-Collazo to Calzaghe-Lacy? no comparison...Calzaghe is an excellent Boxer/Puncher....Hatton is a puncher/brawler at 140....don't get it twisted...Floyd's loss of hand speed was not noticable and he still has his power....Hatton looked slowww....Hatton's style is all wrong for bigger better fighters that know how to box.....and NEVER hurt Collazo....and the biggest factor of all for those that think Hatton is bigger than Floyd...Floyd is 5-8 with a 72" reach...Hatton is 5-6 with a 65" reach....Floyd can and will become a true welterweight...Hatton doesn't have the frame to effectively carry the extra weight....Hatton was succumbing to all the hits he took against Collazo and was out on his feet an very easily could and should have been KO instead he was able to hold on for dear life...he can't get out of the way of punches at this weight....Not only has this never happened to PBF he is as slick as he was at 140....Floyd didn't EAT his way to 147 he trained to get to 147.....Lacy was overhyped and still a little green to get in the ring with the likes of Calzaghe......Hatton was overhyped as well....Collazo won that fight...We'll see who wins in the rematch...

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Get what twisted???

PBF can grow into the weight but Hatton cant?? How do you work that one out?? HATTON IS THE BIGGER MAN!!! So is corrlaes bigger than Tyson because he has a bigger height and reach difference?? Ricky is naturally bigger than Floyd. Also the compasions between the two fights wasnt the styles you muppet, try and read the thread next time before you comment, i was talking about the reaction of so called boxing fans, i was pointing out Hatton has got more stick than Lacy got and the difference being Ricky won and Lacy lost every round, my point was there is a bit of American told you so all over this, nothing to do with the styles.

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my reply was to the fact you think Hatton had an off night...he didn't...he finally stepped up in competition and had it handed to him....And as for hatton being bigger than Floyd your nuts...Floyd is broader than Hatton hence the 7 inch reach advantage....it's not just about arm reach it also includes finger tip to finger tip......So lets see.. Floyd is TALLER and WIDER!!! what the h*ll are you looking at Hatton with a magnifying glass? hatton looked SMALL agains Collazo...He will look SMALL compared to PBF...and to try to throw in a Corrales/Tyson comment? that was so far off it merits no additional response....

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Collazo was underated, and turned out to be a GOOD fighter. But are you honestly going to tell me he's a step up from the GREAT CHAMPION Kostya Tsuyu. How often were you dropped on your head as a child exactly?????? While I wait for your "Kostya was shot" piece of crap response I would like to point out that Ricky is the reason Kostya is now semi retired, Ricky made him look old.

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explain how he can be taller and wider but still the same weight twat unless his got hollow bones or sumat

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Your right collazo is not a step up from tszyu and thats why it makes hatton look so bad.Like i said that kid gave him his toughest fight and i don't rate him anywhere near tszyu. So what does that say about hatton?

I hope Hatton is very successful here in the U.S. but I did not like how the ref. let him get away with all of the grabbing and holding while hitting. Heck, he got away with more than he did when he fought Kostya (like that blatent hit in the nuts) in England.

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I hope Hatton is very successful here in the U.S. but I did not like how the ref. let him get away with all of the grabbing and holding while hitting. Heck, he got away with more than he did when he fought Kostya (like that blatent hit in the nuts) in England.

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"We're fighting, brother. If you want to dance, go somewhere else" - JOE FRAZIER

are you fucking blind mate. hatton didn't get away with anything of saturday. loads of times when he got close enought the ref split it up. hatton usually does his best work up close but wasnt given the chance by the ref constantly breaking it up.

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Your right collazo is not a step up from tszyu and thats why it makes hatton look so bad.Like i said that kid gave him his toughest fight and i don't rate him anywhere near tszyu. So what does that say about hatton?

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That is not easily answered; it is boxing; styles make fights.

Lloyd Honeyghan annihilates a contender for #1 pound for pound in the world, in Don Curry, then one year later loses to glorified journeyman Jorge Vaca...

That is why you can often over analyse one performance. To put a single performance in perspective you sometimes have to wait until the fighters concerned have retired.