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i gotta go with calzaghe ;)
Then you just don't fwockin know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Judah is by far the most overratted out of that bunch...but you refused to list him because you knew that we'd all vote for his ass! ;D
actually i only put the undefeated guys who are considered to be the best
Taylor for me - guess we'll find out in a few weeks ;)
Hell I dont know Joe showed me alot against Lacy but I believe in my Heart of hearts if Joe moves up to light Heavyweight RJJ will take him I think Roy would not fear Joe's power as much, and will capitilaize more when Joe hurt...Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
This fight Will have an interesting Dynamic to it, if Roy Beats Joe then The Roy hating will stop and he can call it quits and go out on a positive note being once elevated again cause of all Joe's Hype(deserved or not)
If Joe wins than it does nothing for Joe since everyone thinks Roy is damaged goods anyway and should of called it qiuts last year
The Funny thing is No one has a blueprint to defeat Roy!!!Think about it Tarver is just not a good matchup for Roy and Got Lucky with the KO Johnson came in at an extremely good time to press the situation and get Roys ass again while he was still down mentally, now back to Tarver bad matchup again ROy beat Roy the third time He still was beating Tarver to the Punch and was getting to Antonio but would not capatilize on it and settled with just surviving.
Bottom line Roy can and would beat Joe!!
I dont want to take anything away from Glen Johnson!! just piss poor timing for Roy, Glen has just turned into a relentless freak of nature unfortunately for Roy he decided to Revamp himself and have his coming out party the nite of there fight!!!
Hard to choose from that list,right now,would have to say Taylor but I'll look a foll if he beats Winky(yeah right!). Hatton needs time to grow,why is Calzaghe even there and Lil Floyd being there is a disgrace!!
calzaghe is there cuz his biggest win was against somebody who JUST MAY have been ALL hypeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Game
mayweather is there cuz people think he is the greatest ever, and he is not even the greatest alive ;)
Oh so you mean who is over hyped,well Mayweather if you go by the people on this forum,I mean people have him in there with SRR,SRL,Hagerl,Duran-HELLLL NO!! Not yet anyway. Clazghe has fought all the dangers presented to him and he MADE lacey look that bad,I think Jeff is much better than that,it's just Calzaghe is soooo far ahead of everyone else in the division!! Back to Mayweather,yeah,people proclaim him to be greatest fighter ever etc,no way bro.
It's gotta be Hatton. He was on most people's top 5 p4p going into Saturday's fight against someone who was not on anyone's top 20 p4p -- and he was very unimpressive in almost losing. The only other guy on this list that is ranked that high--Mayweather--has only had one really close fight, and it was against another top 10 p4p guy. Hatton wins the overhype contest by virtue of his ranking vs. close match-up against low-ranked fighter ratio.
Taylor is not on the Ring or Saddo's Top 10 p4p list, he's the underdog going into his next fight, and most people think he lost at least the first B-Hop fight, so I don't see how he could be overrated.
I could see the argument for Calzaghe, but despite not facing very good competition, he doesn't really have any negatives against him--no one's made him look bad like Collazo did to Hatton. And most people don't rank him as high p4p as they ranked Ricky.
I don't see anyone giving Floyd real trouble unless he presses the issue and goes up to 154--which still wouldn't show that he was "overrated."
Sorry,I don't mean to sound as if Mayweather is over rated,he dam sure as hell isn't but then you read posts saying he could have beaten Hagler,Hearns Leonrd etc and I don't see it. He is NOT the greatest of all time.....YET!
Your right, people on this forum are on Floyd like he's SUPERMAN, Zab proved there are no unbeatable fighters around....including Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
people definitley give him more hype then he deserves, and in that sense he is overated
about calzaghe never having toruble, mitchell almost KTFO calzaghe
Fair enough. The eventual stoppage for Calzaghe was premature to the extreme and HIGHLY questionable as well -- and definitely would not have happened so quickly had the fight taken place elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
you do know that zab lost....so how did he prove nobodies unbeatable?Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic bull
SAM PETER...yeah no one took the loss to Wlad to heart. And everyone just thinks since he KO'd Julius Long he's still AMAZING....listen here dummies Sam is still as slow as he is fat he throws punches wider than James Toney's waist and he can't box...yet apparently Wlad would just fall apart in a rematch...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
Rocky Juarez is overrated as well, nullify the left hook and he's got NOTHING
Peter's as slow as he is black? ::** How about leaving race out of this Lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
oh, you must not have heard. according to lyle, all boxing fans are necessarily racist:Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah Lyle what hell is up with the race thing???Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
There's nothing wrong with cheering for your own ethnicity. It becomes a problem when you bash another ethnicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
while i agree that most hispanic fans identify with hispanic fighters i think its more of a nationality kind of thing then a race thing
im as pale as fuck and my favorite fighter is judah, and my my most hated fighter is magalini
I totally disagree with it being a racist sport bigtime!!!!I am a white middleclass american man who's favorite boxers are not white!!!!Welcome to the year 2006 and stop being a racist redneck there all prize fighters who gives a shit what color they are!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
i thinks it dumb to cheer for someone just based off them being in the same ethnic group...listen fuck all that..Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Oscar, Fernado, PBF, Mosely, Judah, Juarez, Gatti, Spadafora, Micky ward,
are all americans...who fucking cares what color they are?
I can't see where the racism is in Lyle's post - it's just an off the cuff remark, not being derogatory :-\
Well fine, crap, everyone is so edgy .....Sam Peter is as slow as he is fat
Fuckin crackers
See there you go now cracking on fat people now maybe he's got a thyroid problem, insensitive prick  LOL!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
;D
It was not based on race but skin tone...I mean there are light black people and dark black people...it wasn't racist, might have been out of line but not racist.
At least everyone still hates the French
I like there dressingQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
is that the orange one?
the orange 1 = NICE
:D
THAT IS racist, you are a racist SIR!Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Not all French people are orange, neither are their dressings...which are racist!
it's more pinkish-orange
The French make a good onion soup too I love the melted chz on topQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well fine just keep on being racist.....why don't you bring up their mustard tooQuote:
Originally Posted by jtrock
bastards!!!!
I notice that Taylor's got 5 votes and is only trailing Hatton. Can someone who voted for Taylor please answer my question for me:
Seriously, if no one rates the guy very highly to begin with, where does the "over-" part come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
it comes from him having beaten b-hop and being undefeated on paper
I see...so it's not okay to rip on someone who's latin, black, oriental, & what not...but open season on the fwockin French, huh?
Buncha nationalistic biz-nastards!
Yeah and after they had to sit at the back of the UN meetings and drink from seperate water fountains and surrender to pretty much anyone who set foot in their country
that's just objective information--it's entirely separate and not necessarily related to how anyone "rates" him. personally, i can accept those facts and still say that i don't rate him as a top 10 p4p fighter. and i think most people agree. so again, how is he overrated?Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Where's Margarito's chumpass at? He's the run away winner.