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What Happened To the Plan Ricky
It appears that a rematch with Luis Collazo is not in the cards for undefeated WBA welterweight champion Ricky Hatton. The Manchester Evening News reports that Hatton is moving back down to 140 pounds, unless a bout with Floyd Mayweather, Jr. can be made.
Well if hes done that, then hes afraid of loosing that 0. He needs to take risks if he wants to become a legend.
that's good
Boldimor and Gatti are rubbish anyway, Castillo and Corrales are alot better P4P
So hes moving back down for the "better comp" or the easier comp. That hatton sure is brave.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
::** So by that logic, Audley Harrison may as well just fight Joe Calzaghe to revive his career. He's much better p4p then any HW's right??Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
If I understood it correctly, Hatten had a hard time finding a fighter in say, in the top 10 to fight, had a not so stellar outing against a top ten fighter, got the w, and he is the world champ in the Jr. ww. div. Correct. Everybody keeps bitching about Hatten not fighting who they want him to fight, and yet that mf wont do it unless the price is right. He already said he'd fight mayweather . :wc:
I'm fine with Hatton-Castillo, he might find out what happens when you lunge in to try to wrestle and then get hit by a real puncher.
If Corrales loses will Hatton STILL call him out. Judging by his latest manuevering, I'm thinking that he just might.
Wow. I'm not gonna say that I am shocked...might be the smartest thing for him to do...but it's odd that an underratted hardly known second tier 147 fighter put the fear in him.
Interesting.
I thought everyone was saying Ricky was a man of his word and would give Collazo a rematch because he said he would ???
Noticed that too did you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Well, I agree that Hatton should move back down. For all those people that said Floyd looked bad at 147, Hatton looked worse. Collazo hurt him in that fight. If Floyd and Hatton fight at 147, Hatton loses.
:coolclick: Agreed 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
The question is...on the demotion...do people still actually think that he stands a chance against Floyd?
What, you would rather see Hatton fight Boldimor? At the end of the day, a Win over castillo is a greater accomplisment to his legacy than a win over Gatti.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Hatton is a natural Junior WW anyway........The thing i didn't like is the fact that Hatton is not giving Callozo a rematch.
I always thought he would lose to PBF. Because of that i would still pay to see it. But Hatton came to america and 147 to make a pbf showdown look good. No casual fan seeing hatton for the first time will want to pay $50 to see him get beat on by pbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I think that it may have something to do with money, maybe. I don't know what kind of payday they make in the ww as opposed to the jr ww.
I doubt that that one fight could have scared, him out of the div. Any boxer of his caliber has More intestinal fortitude than that.
As a Floyd fan, I can't see Hatton beating Floyd at any weight. Floyd, IMO, might not belong at 147 yet{he can grow into the weight}, but I feel he is bigger than Hatton. I honestly think Floyd would ram his shoulder into Hatton's face and man-handle him. Ricky is relentless for sure, but Floyd is the bigger man. Everyone can say what they want, but I seriously doubt that Hatton can push Floyd around. I really don't think Hatton wants to fight Floyd, especially at 147. To answer your question Wacko, Hatton fans will always think he has a chance. Collazo is a good fighter, but not as good as Floyd. Collazo might be bigger than Floyd, but Floyd is as good, and better in all categories. And Collazo isn't a KO artist, and he rocked Hatton, I couldn't believe it! I knew Collazo would bring it, but I figured Hatton would walk him down, and that didn'tr happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I agree. All his fans think he was just gonna huff an puff and blow PBF house down like floyd is a punk. I never saw that. I said before a good boxer beats a good brawler 9 times out of ten. In this case i think its a great boxer versus a good brawler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
I wonder if his disappointing performance (Hatten) really had anything to do with the fact the he only had 7 weeks to prepair for the fight?
Maybe, but only him and his promoting team are to blame. If they would have gotten things rolling quicker, and picked an opponent, he would have had more time. I don't doubt that Hatton could have done better, but he clearly isn't as dominate as people thought. And, he can't beat Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weebels
has anyone given it any though that he was not that impressive because he was not allowed and wrestle here as much as he was in his back yard, maybe he realized that and knew that was the only chance he would have with ww and instead decided to come back down and challenge the winner of a fight that is taking place 12 Lbs ,two divisions, lower then his last fight.
Yeah, just like Floyd did with Castillo to "avenge" his controversial win!! That's just one example of his not being in the same galaxy as Mayweather!! (others being his lack of defense, inability to adjust his game plan in mid-fight...ad infinitum!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
LOL threads like this really make me laugh...
so you guys who dont rate him and have never rated him want him to stay out of his natrual weight that he has proven he's crap at... for the only reason to see him beat... errr OK ;D
he will still fight Mayweather at Welter if it come up...hopfully Mayweather will want to now fight him after what he saw last weekend but considering Ricky is one of Mayweathers big fight rivels he seems pretty quite about the whole thing not a trait ive noticed in Mayweather before being... quite that is :)
i said before the fight Ricky at Welter was a bad move and this would't be the walk in the park everyone expected... so fo me this is no supprise.
Also just try giving a thought to all the crap that is still going on outside the ring for a second ;)
He has a hard fight against a tough south paw in a new weight division and wins another belt with a close decision.
You cant shine all the time!
My advice is to stay at 140 if he has no problems making the weight as i dont think he is big enough for it.
If he keeps winning then the big fights will come to him.
I still give him a great chance against PBF.
PBF is the new roy jones of handpicking his fights!!!
and if Floyd and hatton fight at 140lb, Hatton wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Its hattons natural weight division. the one he is undisputed champion of the world at. why should he not fight at that weight anymore??? He has stated he found it harder that expected but will still fight at WW only if the right fight comes up. He prefers his natural weight of LW. IMO there is F**k all wrong with that.
I wonder if all you snipers out there will still be saying this crap in say a years time when hatton still has an 0 on his record and has beaten some of the worlds finest in the mean time. (even if it is at LW)
CC glad someone has some perspective. The only reason Ricky went up to WW was to chase Mayweather since he avoided him. It was short notice to gain the weight (have to blame Hatton's father for this, even though Warren is not perfect, I doubt he would have allowed this) but still he came away with the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
Yes he struggled, but due to Collazo's natural size advantage and southpaw style. I have no doubt that Ricky would struggle against a Margarito or Baldomir, but due to their size, not their ability and skill.
I'm not saying that Hatton would beat Floyd, there's only one way to find that out (one way that PBF has been reluctant to go), but he'd sure as hell have a better chance than the last 3 stiffs Floyd's fought.
Hatton has his limitations, and he may well avoid the likes of Baldomir and Maragrito, but Floyd fans are the last people on earth who should criticise someone else's choices of fights.
It was HBO who pressed the fight more than anyone, and 7 weeks is a short space of time to get ready for a new weight.
Everyone around Ricky didnt want this fight or for him to move up... this was Rickys choice pushed by HBO as stated above ;)
Audley Harrison is not natural at Joe Calzaghes weight though is he? ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
What's the big deal, he is a light welter so why not fight at that weight. It's nothing to do with bravery. Hatton's assetts dictate that he needs to be strong at the weight, he isn't strong enough at welter so move back down, just common sense I'd have thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by MRMANICK
Yep I would pick 23 mill over 8 mill all day too!!!!Good headsup Floyd!!!Again would you go to work everyday for less money than your entitled too, especially if you were the best around in your trade and everyone wanted you to work for them????Hardly think so,use your head man,This is how these guys make a living when you are the best you have the Luxury of waiting and taking the Bigger pay day(its the business aspect of the sport)again you cant fault a guy for wanting to make as much money as he can while young so he can enjoy himself and live good when he is old...Dont we all have the same goal??Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryB
I can only assume that the people on here that are sniping at Ricky Hatton are American, as they don't even have the courtesy to spell his name correctly. It is not Hatten.
As for the name Floyd, over here we have a TV chef by that name and much like your's he's a natural pain in the ass, so i will refer to the American one as Mayweather.
I have no doubt that like 75% of you Mayweather is so insular, he doesn't possess a passport.
It is only in your own minds that Mayweather like Jones and most other American fighters are deemed pound for pounders. Most of these have been masters at hand picking opponents, cheating ( think Roy Jones and his positive drug test) manipulating judges and referees ( try Eugena Williams ) and generally talking twice as much as you listen, even though you have two ears and only one mouth.
Hatton has said he will give Collazo a rematch, and being the gentleman he is he probably will, but it does not need to be an immediate rematch, because some whinny little idiots in America say so. Get this you do not count anymore in the world of boxing.
The eastern Europeans are making huge inroads in your sacred Heavyweight division. South,and Central Americans and Asian's are dominating the lower weights, and quite frankly Ricky Hatton can sell more tickets at the live gate than any American fighter in his own back yard( 18,000-22,000 ) every time he fights he just wants to prove to the world that he will fight all comers anywhere which is more than can be said for the so called elite of America.
Well listen Newbie this isint US vs The world so chill on the nationalistic BS!!!! Sadly Enough Hatton and Calzaghe are IMO the only worthwile thing in Uk right now you have to cheer for in Boxing so Naturally He will fill an arena up compared to most in the US...I love the England visited and stay with family and love The UK boxing fan you guys are very zealous and proud I respect that but I hate all this nationalistic country vs country racist crap..Stop hating on Floyd and his persona I doubt that ALL the European and Uk fighters dont talk smack to promote there fights..Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddie
Oh just one more thing.....as far as the US not counting in boxing anymore.."A BIG OL :fyou:"
Ignorance at its best :sadclick: :puke:
Yet another thing you believe you have the monopoly on is it?
NATIONALISM. ::**
Everybody has their highs and lows, especially in sports. In a country of 300 mil+. We will always matter in sports, if for no other reason than to spite YOU. That is kinda the reason that the rest of the world is praying that soccer never catches on here. F O MATE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddie
Good post, you're right.........To much nationlism, boxing dosen't need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jtrock
Actually maybe Nationalism may be a good thing. Around the world we are disliked by allot of people, for a plethora of reasons. If it helps a group of people to rut for someone they don't even know , and eventually become a fan of that individual, which in turn helps the sport as a whole. What is wrong with that?
I started watching Hatten because of my Irish decent. I generally don't rut for someone or against them because of where they are from, I'm American, allot of us think of ourselves as being from many places. Many people rut for the person they think they have something in common with. Some people cheer against someone they don't know, because of the same generic reasons. :goodvsevil: