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Big surprise! Hatton ducks Collazo rematch
Just read Hatton's comments on fightnews.com. Just as I predicted, he has no intention of giving Collazo a much deserved rematch. I thought he gave Collazo his word there would be a rematch.
Read what he said. Even you Hatton fans can't deny that he is clearly ducking Collazo.
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if he retired, he can be like Lewis and say that there is no one else left for him to beat.
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Re: Big surprise! Hatton ducks Collazo rematch
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Just read Hatton's comments on fightnews.com. Just as I predicted, he has no intention of giving Collazo a much deserved rematch. I thought he gave Collazo his word there would be a rematch.
Read what he said. Even you Hatton fans can't deny that he is clearly ducking Collazo.
i know, he should of had the rematch then moved down
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I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
Did wrong?
Hatton won a close decision (and he deserved the close decision) - close decisions is part of boxing and why should boxers rematch if they win close decisions? I guess that we all want competitive fights and that means that we also get some close decisions.
Lacy also had a close decision against Omar - should Omar also get a rematch?
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From Hattons point of view, if he fights Collazo now and that put ones of the mega fights he had lined up off, thats not worth it for him.
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Hatton barely won. So Collazo barely lost his title.
Add that up, and Hatton owes Collazo a rematch.
But the reality is Hatton can make millions more fighting others than fighting a no name who arguably beat him.
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
Did wrong?
Hatton won a close decision (and he deserved the close decision) - close decisions is part of boxing and why should boxers rematch if they win close decisions? I guess that we all want competitive fights and that means that we also get some close decisions.
Lacy also had a close decision against Omar - should Omar also get a rematch?
Omar was not a beltholder. Collazo was. Ricky was the challenger. The fight was close, if not controversial. That almost always gets you a rematch.
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I have a bad feeling Hatton is going to live off of his Kostya win for the rest of his career.
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Man, I REALLY wish he would rematch the guy and from the sounds of the press conference it sounded like he would. I wish he did but a matchup with Gatti, Baldomir, Mayweather, Cotto, Castillo or Corrales would all be something I want to see.
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
Did wrong?
Hatton won a close decision (and he deserved the close decision) - close decisions is part of boxing and why should boxers rematch if they win close decisions? I guess that we all want competitive fights and that means that we also get some close decisions.
Lacy also had a close decision against Omar - should Omar also get a rematch?
Omar was not a beltholder. Collazo was. Ricky was the challenger. The fight was close, if not controversial. That almost always gets you a rematch.
It is extremely hard for a foreigner to fight against an American champ in the states and get the decision. So if a foreign boxer gets the decision there, you can be pretty sure that he also won the fight.
I remember once when Johnny Bredahl was fighting Paulie Ayala for the WBA Bantamweight Title in Las Vegas, most thought that Bredahal won the fight but the scores was stupid: Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-112 | Judge: Guillermo Pérez Pineda 114-114 | Judge: Al Siciliano 116-111
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Re: Big surprise! Hatton ducks Collazo rematch
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
Did wrong?
Hatton won a close decision (and he deserved the close decision) - close decisions is part of boxing and why should boxers rematch if they win close decisions? I guess that we all want competitive fights and that means that we also get some close decisions.
Lacy also had a close decision against Omar - should Omar also get a rematch?
Omar was not a beltholder. Collazo was. Ricky was the challenger. The fight was close, if not controversial. That almost always gets you a rematch.
It is extremely hard for a foreigner to fight against an American champ in the states and get the decision. So if a foreign boxer gets the decision there, you can be pretty sure that he also won the fight.
I remember once when Johnny Bredahl was fighting Paulie Ayala for the WBA Bantamweight Title in Las Vegas, most thought that Bredahal won the fight but the scores was stupid: Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-112 | Judge: Guillermo Pérez Pineda 114-114 | Judge: Al Siciliano 116-111
I get your point, but I think the circumstances are a little different here, and there are more factors at play than American champ v. foreigner. Hatton was far more well-known than Collazo coming in, had a big, shiny new contract with HBO, and is "better for boxing" than Collazo (i.e., has and will continue to generate way more interest). So it's not like Sturm vs. ODH, for instance, where ODH got the nod because he's ODH. If anything here, I think Ricky got extra points for being Ricky--celebrity/popularity is a bigger factor than nationality IMO.
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Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch. So why should Hatton be obligated to give Collazo a rematch? You can say everything you want about legacy, clearing up the questions, etc, etc... But every good, great, all time great has questions marks on their records. Whether it was against questionable opposition, the way they won, whatever, they all have at least one fight that we can question. I dont feel that he is required to give a rematch. I would like to see one but if he doesnt give the rematch it wont tarnish his overall record.
Besides if he is actually moving back down, then there is no reason for a rematch.
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
hahahaha that made me chuckle ;D
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
hahahaha that made me chuckle ;D
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We are all here just to entertain you Saddo! ;D cc back
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I'm ready to see Hatton again... We've never seen him come off a fight like this, so his attitude and the way he aproaches the fight should be totally different. He's been known for determination but I think we'll see him more hungry and determined than ever in his next bout. Quit bitching and wait till his next fight, flip floppers :)
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
hahahaha that made me chuckle ;D
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We are all here just to entertain you Saddo! ;D cc back
well keep up the good work ;D
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
hahahaha that made me chuckle ;D
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We are all here just to entertain you Saddo! ;D cc back
well keep up the good work ;D
It made me laugh to...hee hee.
...but in the end...all your'e saying is that Hatton was to afraid to get back in their to lose the title he jsut stole from Collazo...just like Collazo did with Rivera...right? ;D
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
hahahaha that made me chuckle ;D
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We are all here just to entertain you Saddo! ;D cc back
well keep up the good work ;D
It made me laugh to...hee hee.
...but in the end...all your'e saying is that Hatton was to afraid to get back in their to lose the title he jsut stole from Collazo...just like Collazo did with Rivera...right? ;D
almost.... just change the afraid to smart and we'll agree ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
almost.... just change the afraid to smart and we'll agree ;)
If raw electricity can shock you...your'e afraid of it...& your'e generally smart enough not to fwock with it again...kinda the same thing as stepping out in front of a moving car or train...
To quote Joe Rogan...FEAR IS A FACTOR FOR HATTON! ;D
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
almost.... just change the afraid to smart and we'll agree ;)
If raw electricity can shock you...your'e afraid of it...& your'e generally smart enough not to fwock with it again...kinda the same thing as stepping out in front of a moving car or train...
Agreed but what has that got to do with Hatton beating Collazo in a close fight ???
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
almost.... just change the afraid to smart and we'll agree ;)
If raw electricity can shock you...your'e afraid of it...& your'e generally smart enough not to fwock with it again...kinda the same thing as stepping out in front of a moving car or train...
To quote Joe Rogan...FEAR IS A FACTOR FOR HATTON! ;D
That was a good one. :coolclick: all i'm saying is all hatton fans were saying what a great guy he is and how he is a gentleman and a man of his word. Well he said he would give a rematch now hes going back on it. So either he is a little afraid or he ain't the gentleman you guys thought he was.As a fan i know you try to see all the positive in your fighter but something has to give. The guy can't have it both ways and neither can his fans when its convenient to them
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
Did wrong?
Hatton won a close decision (and he deserved the close decision) - close decisions is part of boxing and why should boxers rematch if they win close decisions? I guess that we all want competitive fights and that means that we also get some close decisions.
Lacy also had a close decision against Omar - should Omar also get a rematch?
Difference is that nobody thought that Omar won that fight ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Agreed but what has that got to do with Hatton beating Collazo in a close fight ???
Bwoss...I love you...but he lost...face it...he did. ;D
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not to the people that counted ;)
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
almost.... just change the afraid to smart and we'll agree ;)
If raw electricity can shock you...your'e afraid of it...& your'e generally smart enough not to fwock with it again...kinda the same thing as stepping out in front of a moving car or train...
To quote Joe Rogan...FEAR IS A FACTOR FOR HATTON! ;D
That was a good one. :coolclick: all i'm saying is all hatton fans were saying what a great guy he is and how he is a gentleman and a man of his word. Well he said he would give a rematch now hes going back on it. So either he is a little afraid or he ain't the gentleman you guys thought he was.As a fan i know you try to see all the positive in your fighter but something has to give. The guy can't have it both ways and neither can his fans when its convenient to them
why not ???
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
Because Collazo did it on 2 weeks notice. And that Rivera said he wouldn't fight at 147 anymore after that fight and that he would move up to 154 so he wasn't looking for a rematch ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Agreed but what has that got to do with Hatton beating Collazo in a close fight ???
Same thing that people had against Mayweather for the Collazo fight. Difference is that Floyd had the guts to give Castillo a rematch ;) he didn't run back down to 130 to fight easier fights ;D
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Originally Posted by Saddo
not to the people that counted ;)
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
almost.... just change the afraid to smart and we'll agree ;)
If raw electricity can shock you...your'e afraid of it...& your'e generally smart enough not to fwock with it again...kinda the same thing as stepping out in front of a moving car or train...
To quote Joe Rogan...FEAR IS A FACTOR FOR HATTON! ;D
That was a good one. :coolclick: all i'm saying is all hatton fans were saying what a great guy he is and how he is a gentleman and a man of his word. Well he said he would give a rematch now hes going back on it. So either he is a little afraid or he ain't the gentleman you guys thought he was.As a fan i know you try to see all the positive in your fighter but something has to give. The guy can't have it both ways and neither can his fans when its convenient to them
why not ???
Why not? You must be one of his fans. ???
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Yes i am a fan of boxing that is correct ;)
help im surronded :cwm31:
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I think it is kind of funny, all of us gripe about people being at weights they dont belong but refuse to go back down to "their better weight". But when Hatton realizes he may not be able to handle 147 like he thought and decides to go back down, we jump him and degrade. Who knows maybe he does think he got away with one. Collazo doesnt have much power for a fighter at 147 and he got to Hatton on a couple of occasions.
I am not sure if Hatton just needs to grow into the weight or if its just a step to far. Either way its his decision on where he fights.
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bigragu.... Please post like an adult or your posts may get changed by the mods ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Yes i am a fan of boxing that is correct ;)
help im surronded :cwm31:
Stoppit I said!!! All of you!!! Just stoppit!!!! He's just a little boy. Leave him be!
;D
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Yes i am a fan of boxing that is correct ;)
help im surronded :cwm31:
Stoppit I said!!! All of you!!! Just stoppit!!!! He's just a little boy. Leave him be!
;D
Thanks Wacka ;)
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by BIG H
I think as Collazo definately deserves a rematch - the fights was so close it must warrant one
Ricky would get a lot of credit for putting right what he got wrong 1st time out too
Did wrong?
Hatton won a close decision (and he deserved the close decision) - close decisions is part of boxing and why should boxers rematch if they win close decisions? I guess that we all want competitive fights and that means that we also get some close decisions.
Lacy also had a close decision against Omar - should Omar also get a rematch?
I think in a fight that close the champion deserves a chance to win back his title - a bigger Ricky Hatton fan you will do well to find (well maybe not on here ;)) but if the shoe was on the other foot we would all be screaming for a rematch
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Collazo won the belt on SD against Jose Antonio Rivera, and he wouldnt give Rivera a rematch.
Because Collazo did it on 2 weeks notice. And that Rivera said he wouldn't fight at 147 anymore after that fight and that he would move up to 154 so he wasn't looking for a rematch ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Agreed but what has that got to do with Hatton beating Collazo in a close fight ???
Same thing that people had against Mayweather for the Collazo fight. Difference is that Floyd had the guts to give Castillo a rematch ;) he didn't run back down to 130 to fight easier fights ;D
Thats true Rivera didnt want a rematch.........
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I'm surprised and slightly dissapointed in Ricky,Mayweather gave Castillo a rematch straight away and shut the critics up,it was a chance for Ricky to do the same. Also, I dont see matches with battle worn Gatti more important than beating Collazo! If I was Collazo,I would run my mouth and haunt Hatton until I got the rematch and also,Collazo gave him a chance,Hatton should return the favour. Very dissappointing.
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give hatton a break the guy has a style that can beat him, collazo looked ok but he aint gonna do anything in the diviosn either
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Collazo doesn't deserve a rematch. Does every fighter who fights a close match deserve a rematch? He lost, maybe not by much but he obviously lost.
Hatton looked one dimensional, and a Collazo couldn't take advantage of that. Hell, he had him badly hurt and still couldn't capitalize on it.
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The words of a worried fan ;) You know who would win the rematch ;D And Collazo won that fight ;) And he didn't "obviously lose" ::**
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Just read Hatton's comments on fightnews.com. Just as I predicted, he has no intention of giving Collazo a much deserved rematch. I thought he gave Collazo his word there would be a rematch.
Read what he said. Even you Hatton fans can't deny that he is clearly ducking Collazo.
I'd like to see the rematch too, but don't hit out with the ducking crap. Hatton wants the big fights. Collazo is not a big fight. Mayweather, Margarito, Castillo, Gatti. Those are the big fights and Hatton doesn't plan to be around long to entertain your skepticism, just because, shock horror, he didn't blow away one of his opponents. What's that, maybe 1 fight out of 41 that he didn't win convincingly? Oh wow, I guess we should remove him from the P4P list and rag on him until he knocks Collazo out.
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Just read Hatton's comments on fightnews.com. Just as I predicted, he has no intention of giving Collazo a much deserved rematch. I thought he gave Collazo his word there would be a rematch.
Read what he said. Even you Hatton fans can't deny that he is clearly ducking Collazo.
I'd like to see the rematch too, but don't hit out with the ducking crap. Hatton wants the big fights. Collazo is not a big fight. Mayweather, Margarito, Castillo, Gatti. Those are the big fights and Hatton doesn't plan to be around long to entertain your skepticism, just because, shock horror, he didn't blow away one of his opponents. What's that, maybe 1 fight out of 41 that he didn't win convincingly? Oh wow, I guess we should remove him from the P4P list and rag on him until he knocks Collazo out.
I know that your'e a bit sensitive on this matter...& it is like riding a dead horse through the pasture...it's old...& it stinks...& it's a bit uncomfy to discuss...but if you say that the man get's a rematch...give it to him...the next day...don't watch tape & say...errrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmm...maybe I better bail & rethink this...it is the man's title that he was given.
Anywho...Hatton is still a great fighter & all that...but just like so many other fights over the last 2 years...I just think that it was the incorrect decision.
What's done is done...but a draw woulda been better...
