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Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
Another Hatton bashing topic! Must make it 100 now.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
its funny because compubox had ricky outlanding Collazo 350 to 300...
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
Go and watch the fight again especially the first 5/6 rounds, this time watch it without being a hater and you will see Hatton landed some nice hooks to the body aswell as some clean shots to the face.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
Go and watch the fight again especially the first 5/6 rounds, this time watch it without being a hater and you will see Hatton landed some nice hooks to the body aswell as some clean shots to the face.
I had Hatton winning the fight 114 - 113 but I dont know how you could have him ahead after the first 6 rounds. I gave rounds 3, 4, 5 and 6 all to Collazo.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
I disagree totally with the thread title but if you just watch the fight,you see Collazo landed the cleaner,harder,more effective punches. Hatton may have landed more but that was according to compubox,which counts everything! I'd prefer to use my own eyes.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Feather Fisted
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Originally Posted by skel1983
Go and watch the fight again especially the first 5/6 rounds, this time watch it without being a hater and you will see Hatton landed some nice hooks to the body aswell as some clean shots to the face.
I had Hatton winning the fight 114 - 113 but I dont know how you could have him ahead after the first 6 rounds. I gave rounds 3, 4, 5 and 6 all to Collazo.
Thats when Hatton had his best period IMO, i cant remember the exact scoring but i think i gave Collazo 4 and 6 of the first 6 not 100% sure but Hatton was at his strongest in the early parts of the fight.
Also watching the fight again last nite there is arguments for both to win this fight, Collazo landed the more effective cleaner punches but if you watch the fight these cam in 30/40 second spurts with Hatton mostly otworking and pressing him for the remainder of the rounds, i mean the cleaner shots seem to stick out in peoples minds when they watch the fight, and especially with the Effect Collazo was having with his shots, but like i say after watching it again last nite, Hatton was outworking him for 3/4 of most rounds which could easily be seen as him taking those rounds.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
try watching the fight with your eyes open then. ;)
Hatton threw more, Landed more and had a higher hit percentage than collazo (official compubox stats). Oh and he scored the only knockdown of the fight.
there should be no more arguments about this fight, The stats prove it!
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
I think the most decisive factor in Collazo looking like the winner was the 12th round where he almost had Ricky out on his feet. Going into the final round I had Ricky ahead but needing the 12th to secure it.
The 12th was a huge round for Collazo, similar to Danny Williams against Matt Skelton, although here Collazo had been a menace for the whole fight rather than Wlliams who as usual had done absolutely fuck all up to that point.
Collazo deserved to win this fight more than Danny Williams deserved to beat Matt Skelton but this is boxing.
Ricky must know in his heart that he didn't win that fight, it was his name and reputation, not to mention his contract with HBO that saw him through.
I think there has to be a rematch in Manchester before the end of the year. Ricky will forever go down in my estimation if he fails to give Collazo a chance to avenge his (I think unjust) defeat.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
Ok, first of all I would like to point out that Compubox is a load of crap. At the end of the day, Compubox is just another two humans at ringside with an opinion on what landed and what didn't. It is NOT matter of fact and should never be relied upon completely. That is not to say that Hatton did not land more, I'm just pointing out that people seem to be basing opinions based solely on Compubox which is wrong.
Secondly, just because a fighter lands more punches in a fight does not mean that he won more rounds.... think about that one. If you are scoring a fight round by round, a boxer who lands 500 punches in a fight compared to 11 punches for the other guy could just as easily have lost every round in the fight except for one round. ;)
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
another ignorant hatton hater
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
I can understand people thinking Collazo scraped it, but to say he won 9 of the last 11 rounds (Hatton 10-8 1st round) leaves you with no credibility whatsoever
Bored to death of all this to be honest - it was a very close fight end of!!!
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
exactly.........this reminds me of that stupid Taylor-Hopkins match where all Taylor haters were utterly convinced that Hopkins won by a landslide. ugh!
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Originally Posted by Oggie
Ok, first of all I would like to point out that Compubox is a load of crap. At the end of the day, Compubox is just another two humans at ringside with an opinion on what landed and what didn't. It is NOT matter of fact and should never be relied upon completely. That is not to say that Hatton did not land more, I'm just pointing out that people seem to be basing opinions based solely on Compubox which is wrong.
Secondly, just because a fighter lands more punches in a fight does not mean that he won more rounds.... think about that one. If you are scoring a fight round by round, a boxer who lands 500 punches in a fight compared to 11 punches for the other guy could just as easily have lost every round in the fight except for one round. ;)
Have another look at the title of this topic!! ;)
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Oggie
Ok, first of all I would like to point out that Compubox is a load of crap. At the end of the day, Compubox is just another two humans at ringside with an opinion on what landed and what didn't. It is NOT matter of fact and should never be relied upon completely. That is not to say that Hatton did not land more, I'm just pointing out that people seem to be basing opinions based solely on Compubox which is wrong.
Secondly, just because a fighter lands more punches in a fight does not mean that he won more rounds.... think about that one. If you are scoring a fight round by round, a boxer who lands 500 punches in a fight compared to 11 punches for the other guy could just as easily have lost every round in the fight except for one round. ;)
Have another look at the title of this topic!! ;)
And...?
I wasn't referring to the title of this thread, just people that said that Hatton deserved to win because he threw and landed more according to Compubox. If you read my previous post, I was just stating why that was wrong. ;)
For what it is worth, I had Collazo winning the fight on my scorecard.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
What if ricky doesnt prove himself in his next fight? :P
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I think the most decisive factor in Collazo looking like the winner was the 12th round where he almost had Ricky out on his feet. Going into the final round I had Ricky ahead but needing the 12th to secure it.
The 12th was a huge round for Collazo, similar to Danny Williams against Matt Skelton, although here Collazo had been a menace for the whole fight rather than Wlliams who as usual had done absolutely fuck all up to that point.
Collazo deserved to win this fight more than Danny Williams deserved to beat Matt Skelton but this is boxing.
Ricky must know in his heart that he didn't win that fight, it was his name and reputation, not to mention his contract with HBO that saw him through.
I think there has to be a rematch in Manchester before the end of the year. Ricky will forever go down in my estimation if he fails to give Collazo a chance to avenge his (I think unjust) defeat.
So you had Ricky ahead before the 12th but you think Collazo won???? Hows that gonna make sense. Ricky stayed on his feat so it aint a knockdown 10-8 round. And Ricky kept throwing and came on strong at the end of the round so it definitely aint a no knockdown 10-8 round. Care to explain how you had Ricky ahead before the 12th and losing?
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
that settles it then computer box is always right,so that ends the argument for all time Leonard did beat Hagler, only kidding
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
I love Ricky Hatton's style but i was extremely dissappointed with his performance in this fight. Even in Mike Tyson's worst defeats, he still outperformed Hatton in this fight, and i was never really dissappointed in a tyson fight. I don't know how the punchstats were that high for Hatton because to me he hardly threw any punches. I love Ricky Hatton but Collazo made him look foolish. Going forward without throwing punches does not win a fight in my opinion.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I love Ricky Hatton's style but i was extremely dissappointed with his performance in this fight. Even in Mike Tyson's worst defeats, he still outperformed Hatton in this fight, and i was never really dissappointed in a tyson fight. I don't know how the punchstats were that high for Hatton because to me he hardly threw any punches. I love Ricky Hatton but Collazo made him look foolish. Going forward without throwing punches does not win a fight in my opinion.
He hardly threw any punches, LMAO!! You keep stating u loVe Ricky hattons, style who you trying to kid your a hater and thats it plain and simple, you obviously have a white stick, to say he hardly threw any punches, please you have posted a handful of posts and everyone is about rubbish you saw in your tainted world about Ricky Hatton, are you going to contribute anything to this site?? You are good for a laugh though, go and watch the fight again this time OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES!!!
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I love Ricky Hatton's style but i was extremely dissappointed with his performance in this fight. Even in Mike Tyson's worst defeats, he still outperformed Hatton in this fight, and i was never really dissappointed in a tyson fight. I don't know how the punchstats were that high for Hatton because to me he hardly threw any punches. I love Ricky Hatton but Collazo made him look foolish. Going forward without throwing punches does not win a fight in my opinion.
He hardly threw any punches, LMAO!! You keep stating u loVe Ricky hattons, style who you trying to kid your a hater and thats it plain and simple, you obviously have a white stick, to say he hardly threw any punches, please you have posted a handful of posts and everyone is about rubbish you saw in your tainted world about Ricky Hatton, are you going to contribute anything to this site?? You are good for a laugh though, go and watch the fight again this time OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES!!!
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I would be clicking if I could
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
its funny because compubox had ricky outlanding Collazo 350 to 300...
Thats because in the rounds Hatton won he landed about 30 or so punches by compubox, in the rounds Collazo won he would land about 15 and Ricky would land about 7. Because compubox is an accumulative scoring throughout 12 rounds. So you can't say Ricky won just because Compubox said he outlanded Collazo ::** Collazo could outland Ricky for 8 rounds and then Ricky hit Collazo 50 times in the last 4 and outland him, doesn't mean he won the fight, fights are scored by ROUNDS not accumulative numbers of punches landed throughout.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opin
When Hatton gives me a good fight, then i will give him his praise. But until then.
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
I had it a little closer but we had the same winner....Hatton was given a gift...Collazo was robbed...
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Re: Hatton hardly landed a punch against Collazo. He lost that fight in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I would have scored it 116-112 Collazo. Hatton was outboxed, outpunched and outclassed. The only thing Hatton did better than Collazo was holding.
I had it a little closer but we had the same winner....Hatton was given a gift...Collazo was robbed...
JEEZ! Collazo was not robbed.
I am of the opinion Ricky won by a round, but am willing to listen to arguements for a draw or Collazo winning by a round. I dont think many Ricky fans would agree with the two judges that scored the fight 116-112 to Ricky, the fight was a lot closer than that.
Anyway, when we talk about a robbery, we talk about a fight that one fighter clearly won and he was robbed of the win.
Pernel Whittaker - Julio Cesar Chavez = Robber
Ricky Hatton vs Luis Collazo = Very Close fight.
The fight was very close and could of gone either way. That is not a robbery.
