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Of all the great fighters who suffered losses, who are ones that got knocked out, not had a fight stopped, but were on the canvas and got counted out? Even though a TKO counts as a KO, it's not the same. Guys have been TKO'd and didn't even get decked. Other's got dropped, but reached their feet and the ref stopped it. The two biggest names I can think of are Oscar (from Hopkins) and Duran (from Hearns). Also Roy courtesy of Glen Johnson comes to mind. Who else is there?
Hopkins KOd Oscar
Mike Tyson
George Foreman
Mayweather if he ever fights Hatton ;D
Hatton if he ever fights Mayweather you mean ;)
Roy Jones Oscar Delahoya maybe a few others, the original magic man
Henry Armstrong, Sammy Langford, Georges Carpentier, Wilie Pep, Sandy Saddler, Jimmy Wilde, Roberto Duran and Archie Moore are all in my finest 10 fighters ever, and have all been KO'd in a pro fight.
joe louis, ezzard charles -joe frazier, george foreman
Joe Walcott
I agree, Joe Walcott got hit with that right by Rocky and sank to his knees. His arm was stuck on the rope and that was the only thing that kept him up when he was unconcious! He wasn't goin nowhere-that was a KO.Quote:
Joe Walcott
Jack Johnson was counted out.
I sad clicked ya, cus Roy Jones does not suck. And Johnson threw that fight sucka.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat
Stanley Ketchall Benny Leanord Jack Dempsey 3 more
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Originally Posted by Starr
Johnson didn't throw that fight, he was too old to beat that guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Floyd Patterson got KO'd
Ingmar Johanssen got KO'd
Sonny Liston got KO'd...that one by Martin was wicked!
Joey Maxim
Gerald McClellan took the 10 count against Nigel Benn, even though he did it on a knee and got up.
Good post.
Lennox Lewis v. Rahman
Trinidad v. Hopkins (far as I'm concerned he got KO'd)
Spinks v. Tyson
Rocky v. Clubber Lang
Might need to brush up on your boxing terms there, Babablooey.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
When you get KO'd, the ref counts to ten. Otherwise, it's a TKO.
I hope I was helpful.
Titofan, I like you. So dont get on my bad side being all technical.
I said Tito-Hopkins was a KO cuz Tito was on a knee at 9, and barely got up for 10, and was clearly still buzzed. Yes, it was a TKO, but I think youre smart enough to get what Im saying.
And thanks for your condolences for MR. NIGHTMARE. He's in a better place now.
I don't remember it that way, but what the hell. In any case, I think the thread was mostly aiming at devastating KO's, like the "one-punch, leave the guy twitching, call the medic, stop the count" kind of KO. When looked at in those terms, Hopkins' TKO over Tito would qualify even less.
Okay, I see what you mean.
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Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Having said that, I'd like to add Donald Curry's loss to Mike McCallum to the list.
Pacquiao's first loss. He got hit by a body shot and was crumpled similar to Delahoya v. Hopkins.
Delahoya vs. Hopkins........... now THAT was a KO.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Fullmer was KO'd by Robinson.
;D
Glenn Johnson/Tarver et al... v Roy Jones
Hatton last month
Pac last month too :cool:
Paul Williams might not be great but he was pretty damn good when he got knocked cold by Martinez.
Alexander once he fights Brook.
Pacquio, might be the first high profile fighter to do a full faceplant too?
Ouch... ;D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
The Ref could have counted to 10,000 over Joe Walcott.
Ruben Oliveras going out against Herrera was as messy as they come. Cervantes taking 10 from Pryor? Argue greatness but Terry Norris out vs Brown was something.
Sometimes the 'tko' can be more brutal in that a ref immedialy waves it off seeing no need to count. Where as some 'ko's can see a guy hitting ten as he struggles up. Duran v Hearns?...think he could have counted to twenty if not waved.
Funny that since this thread was made there had been none noteworthy until Pacquiao got wrecked last month. That really will be a historical KO, Manny is the only ATG other than Roy Jones to suffer a bad knockout in many years. I guess that speaks more to their having only been a few really "great" fighters active, but still. Manny isn't chinny and he'd never seen the canvas in 36 rounds against Marquez, it was a monster punch.
Donaire's Ko against Moniel comes to mind
Ken Norton by Cooney. It was a great KO and an unexpected one, by me anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Some of these guys very early in their careers but...Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Some may not be thought of as all time greats...
Beau Jack
Archie Moore
Benny Leonard
Alexis Arguello
Sam Langford
Henry Armstrong
Harry Greb
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Joe Louis
Joe Walcott
Stanley Ketchel
Ricky Hatton
Herol Graham
Joe Gans
Battling Nelson
Julian Jackson
Good call by Purist back in the day, even though it was a TKO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Purist
Unless your name is Marlon Brando, you don't get to talk like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Slap yourself in the face, then continue.
Nice list, obviously with the frequently grueling fights old time fighters would endure it was more common they would simply get caught or come in to the ring ill prepared for that opponent etc. I don't know much about serveral of those guys, but for me the 3 most contemporary fighters you list fall a bit short. Hatton, Graham and Jackson were never quite great champions imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitSome of these guys very early in their careers but...Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Some may not be thought of as all time greats...
Beau Jack
Archie Moore
Benny Leonard
Alexis Arguello
Sam Langford
Henry Armstrong
Harry Greb
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Joe Louis
Joe Walcott
Stanley Ketchel
Ricky Hatton
Herol Graham
Joe Gans
Battling Nelson
Julian Jackson
How can anybody forget the great Audley Harrison?