Bruce Lee's one inch punch is a party trick, its not even a punch

He simply pushes some one standing completely off balance. It doesn't require much force, just the amount generated from placing your hand on some one and twisting you're shoulder.

In my boxing gym my coach will get lads to step in teh directions he says until he tells them to stop, no one is aloud to move they're feet and he'll take a look at you're stance and push you if you're off balance.... Obviously they don't fall down because they're in some form of stance but it makes them stumble (usually back into stance as they over compensate trying to not fall over)

Because you know the chair is there when Bruce lee does it you're not as worried about falling so sub consiuosly you make less of an effort to stand up.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/23745/bruce_lee_training/

Never knew dat. :)

the inch punch is a demo of short range power
you are correct about the chair
the one done in that demo is a push one but it can also be done as a strike
check this video out
http://www.brucelee.nd.e-wro.pl/bruc...0kune%20do.mpg
he would not have been able to break the wood if it was a push!!!

Anyway I doubt Bruce would have used the one inch punch as an actual fighting technique.

The idea is that you strike using the same mechanics as the inch punch demo.One of the ideas behind it is the use of the falling step to get bodyweight into the strike.He got the idea from Jack Dempsey!!


Its also used in latosa escrima (philipino weapons fighting) where you need to  generate short power with a weapon .

some video clips of Bruce Lee
http://www.brucelee.nd.e-wro.pl/bruc...i%20wywiad.mpg
http://www.brucelee.nd.e-wro.pl/bruc...0szybkosci.wmv

?????Whats all that about Please explain

this should give u an idea of the falling step
taken from another forum

"The concept behind the falling step is this, think of stepping on a set of scales and jumping up and down on them, you'll notice that you're weight reading rises from say, 11 stone to 16 stone. In essence in that moment that you land on the scales, you transform into a heavyweight for a split second. And so the theory is that you punch with the force of an extra few stone.

To practice just imagine that when stepping forward when you punch(stepping into your punches is something you should always try and do with every punch) you are stepping and falling down a step.

Dempsey said that every straight punch shopuld be performed with a falling step"

its explained in Dempsey's book-its actually a very rare book and sells for at least £100

but some chapters are on this website

http://www.lousy.org/budo/local/dempsey/dempsey.html

I've been taught to step into shots. ;) Can really generate some power in my right hand when I step in off the left :)

Im in Total disagreement with you on this. What you discribe is a push all the power goes through the feet not the fist. Its the same as POSE running,to generate power to the feet not the fist,Allthe power is going down the front leg, chin past knee off balance, cant generate power.

should of been clearer. you don't throw the punch whilst you're foot is stepping, you take a small step forwards instance and throw a split second after your front foot has touched the floor. Probably not explaining it right but it works ;)

Im not replying to you Adam its the other fella

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Bruce Lee was still a badass, though. :-X

ahhhh, you guys are just sore as bruce lee came up trumps over ali in your imaginary bout wet dream ;D

also Bruce didnt just step with his punch he also made sure that the strike lands just before or at the same time as the foot hits the ground.In that way all the bodyweight would go into the opponent."Hand before foot" is also used by fencers to closese non-telegraphically.


this was taken from a froum post by one of Bruce lee students

"Anyway, here is the little trick that Bruce liked to show off using the falling step. By now, I'm sure everyone on this board has seen this, but there are details that might be interesting.


Stand about four or 5 feet away from your training partner.
Stand on left leg with right foot hooked behind the knee.
Extend right arm straight out and aimed at partner's chest, fingers pointed upward, wrist locked.
Weld downs the right shoulder.
Now Fall forward until your right foot must step out to prevent you from falling flat on your face, letting your hand strike your partner’s chest.
Note: Here are the tricks. . Arm must be held rigidly straight, allow no bend, so there is no punching motion (this is just exercise on principle). The right foot hitting the ground must be at the exact same instant the right hand hitting your partner's chest. Most important, the right knee MUST NOT BEND EVEN A LITTLE or the impact with the opponent's chest will be partially absorbed. If done correctly, your partner will be knocked to the moon. Advise, using a telephone directory or something for padding, and be extra careful not to damage the heart. The effect is deep penetrating and might cause electrical disruptions in the heart (V-tack), especially if used at high altitude. In other words, never do this around the ski lodge."

ANother thing I've noticed, with the chair there, you don't have enough room to move your foot back far enough to brace yourself.

My brother was at a marshal arts expo and volunteered to do it. much to the instructred embarasment he stood in his boxing stance... didn't go far :P

The trainer explained it was because of stance and everything afterwards.

Hmm thinking about how he does it...you are right. When you stand with both feet next to each other you are easy to push over.

And theres barely 2 feet to place you're leg back to balance, plus the subconiuos fact you know the chair will abosrb the fall.

Its a good demo of weight transfer and balance but people go on about it like he could lift a man off the floor and send him flying with a 1 inch punch like off the Matrix... ;)

Thats the problem with bruce lee, very fit guy, very talented but so much of his legacy and built on hype, myth and is exagerated by the ignorant.

that was far more than a push, you could see there was alot of power to the shot

Your right its a push.
But it has other benifits ,not used in boxing.
If used on to a finger tip strike with a loaded wrist it can penetrate the softer areas.
With gloves it is just about usless unless you want to blast your opponent off of you in a clinch etc.
Even so to do that would be better if you could blast him off with one high palm strike and one low both going out at 45% over one of his arms with that step through onto the end of it.(not leagle in boxing though).
Those are the techniques from Wing Chun that mr Lee added onto to create the one inch punch.
Getting snap onto the end of the thrust is difficult.
Although if you have completed iron palm training and practice bare handed chi sao you can accidently split face skin with it.

i cant wait to take up wing chun, i said that once i reach 2nd degree i would mix it up a bit...

Wise move.
To go around and sit and study all the styles available is benifitial,you just sit and shut up, watch for a few lessons and then take the first lesson for free all the while taking in all the seniors moves.

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Bruce Lee was still a badass, though. :-X

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what???? what tournaments did he ever win?......none....CHUCK NORRIS RULES!!!! Chuck was a world champ.....Bruce Lee was Hollywood...a FAKER if you will....

chuck norris was taking private lessons with bruce

errr.... chuck norris was bruce's pupil numb nuts.

learn the relationship between master and student and you might understand the concept that bruce was a higher level than chuck ;) :lickish:

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what???? what tournaments did he ever win?......none....CHUCK NORRIS RULES!!!! Chuck was a world champ.....Bruce Lee was Hollywood...a FAKER if you will....

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right then...
I guess that's why Chuck Norris thought that Bruce was alot better than he was, and took lessons from him.

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Wise move.
To go around and sit and study all the styles available is benifitial,you just sit and shut up, watch for a few lessons and then take the first lesson for free all the while taking in all the seniors moves.

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lol, i go for more than a few lessons ;D

Judo: 8 - 14yrs old, i was training 6 days a week at 4 different clubs
Taekwondo: its been over a year, won gold for sparring at national ITA tournament in Feb 2006
Boxing: A brief 6 months due to time constraints but plan to restart
Wing Chun: Plan to start in 2008
BJJ: Plan to start in 2010

I didnt make that clear,
I ment every style ,look into all of them so you can see what their strengths and weakness are watch the top men in each.Get on the mat as well and just soak it all in.Dont tell them what or where you are comming from or it will defeat the purpose and you will have to deal with their egos aimed at your style.
We went there to each as total beginers just for the exersize and we soaked up everything we could.
It was an exersize for us to do years ago in one school and we had to write a theisis on the pros and cons of each style under different circumstances before we could steak our own flag in ground.

Actually as a Jeet Kune Do practitioner and taught by a Si Fu accredited by Dan Inosanto the one inch punch is taught as a means to finish off your punch. the technique takes practice but when applied properly it brings the nasty for sure. I have demonstrated many of times to friends and family, not as dramatic as knocking someone off a chair but just putting your index person on someones chest like you were making a handgun and then quickly close your fist and snap it downward in the 1 inch range and you generate enough force to move someone its fact!!

Again the application is when you finish your punching motion you wanna snap that wrist like a whip on contact and it adds a whole lot of force. In Jeet kune Do you keep your hands up and open a bit while taking a traditional western boxing stance for trapping and intercepting purposes so when you drive off the back foot while snapping your hips, shoulders and lastly that 1 inch punch on contact the force generated is pretty amazing.

to put it proper percpective you are going to correctly apply the principle while defending your self in a street fight or confrontation, Bruce was all about effeciently neuteralising your attacker and stopping him in his tracks asap. attribute drills are taught in combos, whether its 1, 2's or finger jab, right cross and elbow to the face or muay thai combos utilizing knees or headbutts and kicks that should never go above the ribs. as long as it flows makes sense and can be seamless quick its all good. Remember you wanna strike and get your hands back up and body into position. No movements should leave you vulnerable by design.

Also you are usually taught to reverse your stance if your orthodox you are converted to Southpaw and vice versa. The purpose is 2 fold.

1) Since you wanna end the skirmish fast your initial jab or strike is going to be the most powerful since you reversed stances your Jab because a laser sharp power punch that sets the table for the other strikes to follow.

2) Leaves a mental imprint on someone because if you initially jab your way in before starting your combo sequences he feels the power of your supposed Jab and fears the cross that might come because the jab clean his clock the cross is going to feel like a freight train and he might not want to stick around. even though in theory your cross would be really coming from your naturally jabbing hand. That will be your secret;D

Its not a principal that was taught for a 12 round fight, maybe it would work I dont know? but try it Adam in sparring and see if it puts more sizzle on it. Another thing I liked is that it taught me to get my hand returned back for defense. When you snap your wrist at the end it makes your arm like a boomerang that coils back naturally

He took it from the Bill Gee form,Wing chuns final form, which is the finger thrusting form. Its for attacking the soft tissue areas eyes and pressure points around the jugular and aorta and under arms, into liver, etc.

If you watch the form on utube theres a turn of the wrist sometimes inwards or outwards depending on if you are coming over or under the opponents arm and depending on the target as well as vertical strike and horizontal to fit in better to the target, the cocking and snapping of wrist on the end of each finger strike deflects the fingers in without risk of breaking them (like if you went straight in. )

Bruce was taught Bill Gee before he came up with the one inch punch.

So it was definitely part of his thinking process in coming up with it.

Trouble is people get carried away with its application. He would only use that type of thing on a fist for blasting an opponent away from him like at close quarters in a clinch or to land one opponent into another one when dealing with a few.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC0LH_QFOrQ

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He took it from the Bill Gee form,Wing chuns final form, which is the finger thrusting form. Its for attacking the soft tissue areas eyes and pressure points around the jugular and aorta and under arms, into liver, etc.

If you watch the form on utube theres a turn of the wrist sometimes inwards or outwards depending on if you are coming over or under the opponents arm and depending on the target as well as vertical strike and horizontal to fit in better to the target, the cocking and snapping of wrist on the end of each finger strike deflects the fingers in without risk of breaking them (like if you went straight in. )

Bruce was taught Bill Gee before he came up with the one inch punch.

So it was definitely part of his thinking process in coming up with it.

Trouble is people get carried away with its application. He would only use that type of thing on a fist for blasting an opponent away from him like at close quarters in a clinch or to land one opponent into another one when dealing with a few.

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I know about the trapping and Wing Chun we did a lot with that as well, BUT it's mechanism was still applicable to the punch. Remember as having no way as your way, as long as its effecient and effective in all ranges of combat it was all good with Bruce.

I remember running up the length of the school pumping our fists like a grain harvester blasting away;D also on the heavybag for a minute straight blasting... rough stuff.

We always got into the historical signifigance of orgins etc. for respect, etiquette and applied knowledge. But the onus was on defending yourself in the most practical and effective way

Any branches of Kung Fu is nonsense! For the world to believe an actore Bruce Lee is an all time great fighter without putting his ass in risk against live resisting opponents, unlike REAL G.O.A.T like Ali proves the masses are asses and ignorant people are the majority.

Wing Chun is the dumbest boxing ever invented and only gullible fucktards who dont have much of a fighting IQ would buy into all their chinese fabricating sales pitch!

Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Ju-Jitsu = MMA

Dedicated to the truth, someday in the future people are gonna look back and say how dumb where those primitive monkeys to believe such nonsense = Kung Fu

Kung Fu is like a cult and like a greedy coorporation willing to take your hundreds. It angers me that so many are so fucking stooooopid to believe these chinese nonsense. Nerdy fucks! Go throwdown and see how long you actually try those nonsense until you start swinging wildly and turn sloppy cause all that nonsense goes out the window quick. But come watch a mma guy in and out the octagon boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and jujitsu all maintain their discipline throughout any fight.

Bruce lee's base was Wing Chun Gung fu, but near the end, the standup he practiced was basically boxing.

In the late 60s, Lee p!$$ed off a lot of practitioners of Eastern traditional martial arts by saying if you matched a top karate or gung fu man against a top boxer where the karate/gung fu guy could use all his techniques but the boxer would stick to his hands, Lee said the Boxer would come out on top because the boxers were in better physical condition and were accustomed to getting hit, and they had real fighting experience and practical techniques.

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But come watch a mma guy in and out the octagon boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and jujitsu all maintain their discipline throughout any fight.

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No they dont. They mix the whole lot up into a style that suits themselves.
The very thing Lee began.
Fuck Kung fu it was a simple stepping stone for him and others.

Think about Karate in the same light you try blocking in those rounded movements like traditional karate does and throwing from the hip with over rotating punches and see how far that gets you these days.

Thai kick boxing back in the day was the closest to what the whole fight game has become the rest all have their uses.
Jeet kune do still has its too. That is where Lee finished and others took over.

Now the whole game is a mixture of useful techniques from many arts including western boxing. Arts that wouldn't stand alone in the Octagon unless a beast of a person came out of one. Kung fu has many forms and is the worse I agree, but all traditional art forms just arent good enough on their own these days, they have to learn the best out of each to survive.

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But come watch a mma guy in and out the octagon boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and jujitsu all maintain their discipline throughout any fight.

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No they dont. They mix the whole lot up into a style that suits themselves.
The very thing Lee began.
Fuck Kung fu it was a simple stepping stone for him and others.

Think about Karate in the same light you try blocking in those rounded movements like traditional karate does and throwing from the hip with over rotating punches and see how far that gets you these days.

Thai kick boxing back in the day was the closest to what the whole fight game has become the rest all have their uses.
Jeet kune do still has its too. That is where Lee finished and others took over.

Now the whole game is a mixture of useful techniques from many arts including western boxing. Arts that wouldn't stand alone in the Octagon unless a beast of a person came out of one. Kung fu has many forms and is the worse I agree, but all traditional art forms just arent good enough on their own these days, they have to learn the best out of each to survive.

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First of what do you mean they don't maintain their discipline throughout any fight? They would of course mix it up only if they know both boxing and kickboxing and or with the other two. My point is a boxer will more than likely win any stand up against anybody who stands with them unless its a kickboxer who know better to trade with a boxer and not use his kicks. Bruce Lee wouldn't win a fist fight against Tyson nor would he win any striking match against Buakaw. In the real world he is an amateur and a heavy underdog against real fighters. Just like all traditional martial artist because they will find out the nonsense they've been doing wont work against what is proven effective boxing, kickboxing, ju-jitsu, wrestling.

What game? MMA?

Ofcourse there are fighters with other discipline other then the four most successful one I listed but like I said they are the four most successful because they are the four who throughout the ages actually physically competed and found truth into all myths.

Bruce Lee was not at all about traditional martial arts.

He was NOT a traditionalist; he was an outspoken critic of them and their classical forms and traditions. In fact, he had his friend make a miniature tombstone representing traditional martial arts and their practitioners and their "classical mess." It hung at the entrance to his training hall.

http://7thprovince.com/wp-content/up...-Fluid-Man.jpg

This man Lee had many of the the practitioners of traditional Asian martial arts really p!$$ed off at him....

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But come watch a mma guy in and out the octagon boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and jujitsu all maintain their discipline throughout any fight.

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No they dont. They mix the whole lot up into a style that suits themselves.
The very thing Lee began.
Fuck Kung fu it was a simple stepping stone for him and others.

Think about Karate in the same light you try blocking in those rounded movements like traditional karate does and throwing from the hip with over rotating punches and see how far that gets you these days.

Thai kick boxing back in the day was the closest to what the whole fight game has become the rest all have their uses.
Jeet kune do still has its too. That is where Lee finished and others took over.

Now the whole game is a mixture of useful techniques from many arts including western boxing. Arts that wouldn't stand alone in the Octagon unless a beast of a person came out of one. Kung fu has many forms and is the worse I agree, but all traditional art forms just arent good enough on their own these days, they have to learn the best out of each to survive.

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First of what do you mean they don't maintain their discipline throughout any fight? They would of course mix it up only if they know both boxing and kickboxing and or with the other two. My point is a boxer will more than likely win any stand up against anybody who stands with them unless its a kickboxer who know better to trade with a boxer and not use his kicks. Bruce Lee wouldn't win a fist fight against Tyson nor would he win any striking match against Buakaw. In the real world he is an amateur and a heavy underdog against real fighters. Just like all traditional martial artist because they will find out the nonsense they've been doing wont work against what is proven effective boxing, kickboxing, ju-jitsu, wrestling.

What game? MMA?

Ofcourse there are fighters with other discipline other then the four most successful one I listed but like I said they are the four most successful because they are the four who throughout the ages actually physically competed and found truth into all myths.

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What I was trying to say; was none of those 'successful arts' you mentioned here are pure to their own art form any more. They have all adapted and taken on the best from all of the others. They have had to in order to survive in there, thats how far and how fast the fight game has progressed.

By the game; I meant the modern fight game as opposed to the traditional ones before it.

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But come watch a mma guy in and out the octagon boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and jujitsu all maintain their discipline throughout any fight.

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No they dont. They mix the whole lot up into a style that suits themselves.
The very thing Lee began.
Fuck Kung fu it was a simple stepping stone for him and others.

Think about Karate in the same light you try blocking in those rounded movements like traditional karate does and throwing from the hip with over rotating punches and see how far that gets you these days.

Thai kick boxing back in the day was the closest to what the whole fight game has become the rest all have their uses.
Jeet kune do still has its too. That is where Lee finished and others took over.

Now the whole game is a mixture of useful techniques from many arts including western boxing. Arts that wouldn't stand alone in the Octagon unless a beast of a person came out of one. Kung fu has many forms and is the worse I agree, but all traditional art forms just arent good enough on their own these days, they have to learn the best out of each to survive.

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First of what do you mean they don't maintain their discipline throughout any fight? They would of course mix it up only if they know both boxing and kickboxing and or with the other two. My point is a boxer will more than likely win any stand up against anybody who stands with them unless its a kickboxer who know better to trade with a boxer and not use his kicks. Bruce Lee wouldn't win a fist fight against Tyson nor would he win any striking match against Buakaw. In the real world he is an amateur and a heavy underdog against real fighters. Just like all traditional martial artist because they will find out the nonsense they've been doing wont work against what is proven effective boxing, kickboxing, ju-jitsu, wrestling.

What game? MMA?

Ofcourse there are fighters with other discipline other then the four most successful one I listed but like I said they are the four most successful because they are the four who throughout the ages actually physically competed and found truth into all myths.

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What I was trying to say; was none of those 'successful arts' you mentioned here are pure to their own art form any more. They have all adapted and taken on the best from all of the others. They have had to in order to survive in there, thats how far and how fast the fight game has progressed.

By the game; I meant the modern fight game as opposed to the traditional ones before it.

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I still don't know what you're talking about. :p

Boxing is the most proven one because it is the most challenged and it has come along ways because it actually competes. Look how boxing has evolve, you should know better than I do because you are like a hundred years older. Boxing is pure and evolves a lot more because it competes and proves itself.

Along with wrestling and muay thai they too compete more than others but not nearly as much as boxing, therfor boxing is best because of how it continuously evolve.

Just because it evolve doesn't mean it is not pure. Boxing is a great example, the sweet science!

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Bruce Lee was not at all about traditional martial arts.

He was NOT a traditionalist; he was an outspoken critic of them and their classical forms and traditions. In fact, he had his friend make a miniature tombstone representing traditional martial arts and their practitioners and their "classical mess." It hung at the entrance to his training hall.

http://7thprovince.com/wp-content/up...-Fluid-Man.jpg

This man Lee had many of the the practitioners of traditional Asian martial arts really p!$$ed off at him....

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True but I believe Bruce still had the same agenda! $$$$$ and fame!

If the guy wanted to be a great fighter he wouldn't just be a practitioner and an actor. He mislead everybody! Especially gullible nerds to think he knew fighting! Bruce Lee is a practitioner not a fighter! I wouldnt have a problem with him if he would of clear that up because it takes a lot away from real GREAT FIGTHERS! It is unfair for majority of the wolrd to know a practitioner rather than a great one of the greatest figthers ever! Fuck that! I'm not with that at all. You guys can continue idolizing a pratctioner but you all are fools to think Bruce Lee wouldn't get his chin check by any decent boxer or mma fighter, let alone a great one.

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Bruce Lee was not at all about traditional martial arts.

He was NOT a traditionalist; he was an outspoken critic of them and their classical forms and traditions. In fact, he had his friend make a miniature tombstone representing traditional martial arts and their practitioners and their "classical mess." It hung at the entrance to his training hall.

http://7thprovince.com/wp-content/up...-Fluid-Man.jpg

This man Lee had many of the the practitioners of traditional Asian martial arts really p!$$ed off at him....

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True but I believe Bruce still had the same agenda! $$$$$ and fame!

If the guy wanted to be a great fighter he wouldn't just be a practitioner and an actor. He mislead everybody! Especially gullible nerds to think he knew fighting! Bruce Lee is a practitioner not a fighter! I wouldnt have a problem with him if he would of clear that up because it takes a lot away from real GREAT FIGTHERS! It is unfair for majority of the wolrd to know a practitioner rather than a great one of the greatest figthers ever! Fuck that! I'm not with that at all. You guys can continue idolizing a pratctioner but you all are fools to think Bruce Lee wouldn't get his chin check by any decent boxer or mma fighter, let alone a great one.

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I wouldnt worry about any other greats, anyone who is great at anything is beyond being ass sore over anything or anyone else.

Like Chuck Norris he is king of all the utube comments these days.
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Bruce Lee is a poser!

Case Closed. :cool: