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Biggest Boxing Bust of all time
I would have to say David Reid is the biggest bust that I have seen in boxing. He won a gold medal in the olympics along with winning his first 14 fights and winning the Super Welterweight championship. He then faced Felix Trinidad in what was probably the biggest mistake of his life, after that he faded away from the boxing world. They once called him the American Dream. He did not pan out.
They put him in with Trinidad way to early in his career.
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Hector Mancho Camancho Jr has to be an honorable mention.
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Reid had too many eye problems, that's what kept him from seeing the punches to his face!
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Originally Posted by eugepang
Reid had too many eye problems, that's what kept him from seeing the punches to his face!
good hit
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reid was a dissapponitment but i wasnt his fault really--he had a horrible injury...but he did win a world title and fought his ass off against a hall of famer in tito............u cant say he was a bust
1 i would say that bojado is a bust--he lost to a nobody and a has been and hasnt fought in like 2 yrs..he seemed to be just as hyped as cotto coming in...
2 abdullaev---wasnt he supposed to be a top ranked guy by this point?
3 mike grant---the next big thing at one point--turned into a bum
4 camacho jr is a bust--he was heavily hyped......
5.ricardo williams--------jail is always bad for your career
6 ike ibeabuchi--ditto.......
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Originally Posted by LawHoops
reid was a dissapponitment but i wasnt his fault really--he had a horrible injury...but he did win a world title and fought his a** off against a hall of famer in tito............u cant say he was a bust
1 i would say that bojado is a bust--he lost to a nobody and a has been and hasnt fought in like 2 yrs..he seemed to be just as hyped as cotto coming in...
2 abdullaev---wasnt he supposed to be a top ranked guy by this point?
3 mike grant---the next big thing at one point--turned into a bum
4 camacho jr is a bust--he was heavily hyped......
5.ricardo williams--------jail is always bad for your career
6 ike ibeabuchi--ditto.......
I love the Bojado hit, I forgot all about him, I believe he lost to Lieja
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Of modern times, I would say; Duane Bobick, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Grant, Michael Nunn, Don Curry, Michael Olijade, Mark Breland, Carlos Gonzales, Hector Camacho Snr, Shane Mosley, Howard Davis, Gato Gonzales and Alejandro Gonzales; come to mind.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Of modern times, I would say; Duane Bobick, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Grant, Michael Nunn, Don Curry, Michael Olijade, Mark Breland, Carlos Gonzales, Hector Camacho Snr, Shane Mosley, Howard Davis, Gato Gonzales and Alejandro Gonzales; come to mind.
I alway's said the headbutt from Forrest changed his career forever (Shane Mosley) but he should still make the hall of fame
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Of modern times, I would say; Duane Bobick, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Grant, Michael Nunn, Don Curry, Michael Olijade, Mark Breland, Carlos Gonzales, Hector Camacho Snr, Shane Mosley, Howard Davis, Gato Gonzales and Alejandro Gonzales; come to mind.
Damn, a lot of fighters would love to make it as far as Mosley, Camacho Snr, Cooney, or Nunn. Asking somebody to be the Jesus of boxing is asking a lot. They've don't pretty well in a highly demanding sport.
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lol nobody has mentioned Golata yet ;D
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How about Hamed? A lot was expected of him and his career went to crap.
Ricky Hatton is on the verge of bust.
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Because Hamed had a great enough career to the credentials and at least used his talent to accomplish more then many could hope to. Sure more was expected for him but at least he was on the path to it and stayed on it. Golata had a path layed out but he took the left turn at alberquerque ;D
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Originally Posted by Starr
Because Hamed had a great enough career to the credentials and at least used his talent to accomplish more then many could hope to. Sure more was expected for him but at least he was on the path to it and stayed on it. Golata had a path layed out but he took the left turn at alberquerque ;D
Agreed. The puzzling thing is that Golota had mental problems, biting people in the ring, continously hitting people with low blows while his corner tries to warn him, troubles with the law outside the ring. Golota had the talent he just didn't have the brain.
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
Damn, a lot of fighters would love to make it as far as Mosley, Camacho Snr, Cooney, or Nunn. Asking somebody to be the Jesus of boxing is asking a lot. They've don't pretty well in a highly demanding sport.
Anyone who becomes a world class fighter is superb, but the fighters I listed were expected by some to be far more than what they became IMO.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Of modern times, I would say; Duane Bobick, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Grant, Michael Nunn, Don Curry, Michael Olijade, Mark Breland, Carlos Gonzales, Hector Camacho Snr, Shane Mosley, Howard Davis, Gato Gonzales and Alejandro Gonzales; come to mind.
SHANE MOSELY???? wow!!! Thats dumb
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Originally Posted by LawHoops
reid was a dissapponitment but i wasnt his fault really--he had a horrible injury...but he did win a world title and fought his a** off against a hall of famer in tito............u cant say he was a bust
1 i would say that bojado is a bust--he lost to a nobody and a has been and hasnt fought in like 2 yrs..he seemed to be just as hyped as cotto coming in...
2 abdullaev---wasnt he supposed to be a top ranked guy by this point?
3 mike grant---the next big thing at one point--turned into a bum
4 camacho jr is a bust--he was heavily hyped......
5.ricardo williams--------jail is always bad for your career
6 ike ibeabuchi--ditto.......
Michael Grant, nice one. I don't know if he was put in too early with Lennox but where should he go? I feel sorry for that man, had a lot of potential with size.
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Duane Bobick, Mark Breland and Jorge Louis Gonzales.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Of modern times, I would say; Duane Bobick, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Grant, Michael Nunn, Don Curry, Michael Olijade, Mark Breland, Carlos Gonzales, Hector Camacho Snr, Shane Mosley, Howard Davis, Gato Gonzales and Alejandro Gonzales; come to mind.
Man that's harsh and I can't make sense of a couple of them.
First off, Pinklon Thomas? How? Were there any expectations for Thomas? I mean he had only a handful of amatuer fights, rattled off a series wins at the beginning of his career and then KO'd Tillis then I think he went on to beat Witherspoon. Impressive yes, but Tillis wasn't up to the same par as the guys Thomas faced later on in Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe. I just didn't think anyone had such great expectations for Tillis. He was clearly a cut below those three.
Gerry Cooney just had a tough draw with Holmes. He was a straight ahead power puncher/brawler in a division where a pure boxer who mastered at keeping fighters like him at bay. Still, he lined up Lyle, Norton and Young and KO'd them all in sucession. I don't consider him a bust but I know I'm in the minority. I just don't think you can use losing to a great champion like Holmes as a way to put down the guy's entire career.
Camacho never won the mega fight that meant a lot but no way do I think he was a bust.
Mosley...I just can't figure that one out.
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Wow, I can't believe this post made it all the way to the second page without someone bringing up Audley Harrison... I'd say he was a pretty colossal bust especially as weak as the HW division has been.
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
I would have to say David Reid is the biggest bust that I have seen in boxing. He won a gold medal in the olympics along with winning his first 14 fights and winning the Super Welterweight championship. He then faced Felix Trinidad in what was probably the biggest mistake of his life, after that he faded away from the boxing world. They once called him the American Dream. He did not pan out.
They put him in with Trinidad way to early in his career.
oh sh*t...I couldn't think of a true bust ..then I saw your post....soo true...he almost had that ODLH hype..... :coolclick: to you...thanks for the memories...
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John Tate, Michael Grant, Rex Layne, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, Buster Douglas (beats the unbeatable Tyson and then does nothing), Donovan Rudduck, Frank Bruno, Kirkland Laing, David Reid, Danny Romero, Juan Carlos Gomez.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
John Tate, Michael Grant, Rex Layne, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, Buster Douglas (beats the unbeatable Tyson and then does nothing), Donovan Rudduck, Frank Bruno, Kirkland Laing, David Reid, Danny Romero, Juan Carlos Gomez.
I'm suprised you didn't mention Guinn.
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Originally Posted by tuckwopat
How about Hamed? A lot was expected of him and his career went to crap.
Ricky Hatton is on the verge of bust.
You sap hes a box office draw and unbeaten
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audley harrison was said to be on the way to great things but hahahahahahahaha he can't even fight in england without being booooooooooooood
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Of modern times, I would say; Duane Bobick, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Grant, Michael Nunn, Don Curry, Michael Olijade, Mark Breland, Carlos Gonzales, Hector Camacho Snr, Shane Mosley, Howard Davis, Gato Gonzales and Alejandro Gonzales; come to mind.
I see where you are coming from.....but damn are you harsh!!!
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ike ibeabuchi. in my mind he would have dominated the division had he stayed out of prison
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
Man that's harsh and I can't make sense of a couple of them.
First off, Pinklon Thomas? How? Were there any expectations for Thomas? I mean he had only a handful of amatuer fights, rattled off a series wins at the beginning of his career and then KO'd Tillis then I think he went on to beat Witherspoon. Impressive yes, but Tillis wasn't up to the same par as the guys Thomas faced later on in Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe. I just didn't think anyone had such great expectations for Tillis. He was clearly a cut below those three.
Gerry Cooney just had a tough draw with Holmes. He was a straight ahead power puncher/brawler in a division where a pure boxer who mastered at keeping fighters like him at bay. Still, he lined up Lyle, Norton and Young and KO'd them all in sucession. I don't consider him a bust but I know I'm in the minority. I just don't think you can use losing to a great champion like Holmes as a way to put down the guy's entire career.
Camacho never won the mega fight that meant a lot but no way do I think he was a bust.
Mosley...I just can't figure that one out.
Thomas was meant to end the Holmes strangle hold on the divsion, after the impressive victory over Whitherspoon. Remember, his jab was considered Listonesque by some; sure that statement looks silly now, but at the time many thought Thomas was the next big thing. Then came the drugs...
Cooney was the proverbial white hope, excellent punch, he was meant to take out Holmes, but mentally he lacked the tools, and never got over the Holmes fight.
Camacho was meant to take over from Leonard, he had the whole of the boxing world at his feet, then he crossed paths with Edwin Rosario's right hand...
Mosley was meant to be the heir apparent to RJJ. A flashy stylish fighter, with decent power, and the balls to fight and beat everyone that mattered. But Forrest destroyed that dream, and no matter what Mosley does from here, he will never quite live up to that initial hype.
Sure this all sounds very harsh, but this boxing, sometimes you need to be brutal. All the fighters listed were excellent, it was just they were meant to be future greats, in some people eyes. Maybe some went on to have very stellar careers, but none ever quite lived up to the hype thrust upon them at one stage in their careers, they bust, but, it was a mighty fine journey with some of them, before that happened.
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.................... Our gold medalist Fraudley Harrison has to be one! He went from being our beloved gold medal olympic champ then 2 fights later he was a over hyped bum with no future in boxing at all.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Mosley was meant to be the heir apparent to RJJ. A flashy stylish fighter, with decent power, and the balls to fight and beat everyone that mattered. But Forrest destroyed that dream, and no matter what Mosley does from here, he will never quite live up to that initial hype.
I don't think that I would call Mosley a bust, he is still a force to be reckoned with even against todays top fighters
Against anyone in his weight class(es) he is a threat.
"Sugar" Shane is still alive and well, not a bust.
I think Lawrence Clay-Bey, not his fault, just too many injuries
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how can one of the finest lightweights ever be a bust? had he stayed there mosley would have been talked about as an all time great. however he took the risk by moving up in weight to fight the big money fighters (oh and he won a few too)
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Owen Beck? I remember seing him lose against Monte Barrett
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Originally Posted by LBSCFC
how can one of the finest lightweights ever be a bust? had he stayed there mosley would have been talked about as an all time great. however he took the risk by moving up in weight to fight the big money fighters (oh and he won a few too)
After the first de la Hoya fight, Mosley was poised to take the mantle that likes of Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Tyson, Chavez and Jones had held, that of, without doubt the icon's of their era. But he failed, much like Tyson, he was amazing to a point, but both lost to fighters they were meant to be beat and neither could ever regain the mantle they held, whilst they had their '0's'. Both went bust, on their perceived destiny.
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Errol Christie Tere were great things expected of him
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
I would have to say David Reid is the biggest bust that I have seen in boxing. He won a gold medal in the olympics along with winning his first 14 fights and winning the Super Welterweight championship. He then faced Felix Trinidad in what was probably the biggest mistake of his life, after that he faded away from the boxing world. They once called him the American Dream. He did not pan out.
They put him in with Trinidad way to early in his career.
Lacy comes in mind too. Hyped record and blasted out the first time he met a real opponent.
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Lennox when he lost to Rahman, turned up in the ring undertrained and overweight and wandered round the ring with his knuckles trailing on the floor. Got his shit together for the rematch though
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Zab Judah easily. The one they use to call Pernell Whitaker with power. He was so hyped it was unbelievable. His first title was given to him on a silver platter after they stoled it from Terronn Millett. He made no note worthy defenses of it. He got creamed in the unification fight against Tszyu. He beat Spinks in the rematch, but he should of never lost to him in the first place. Than comes the Baldomir lost. Judah has never done anything to justify his hype.
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I know it's a bit early to pass judgement...
Samuel "the Nigerian Nightmare" Peter.
He just seems content with beating on bums now. What the fwock?!?!?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
I know it's a bit early to pass judgement...
Samuel "the Nigerian Nightmare" Peter.
He just seems content with beating on bums now. What the fwock?!?!?
WAY to early to pass judgement. If he was 30 or above and doing this then I would see your point but he's 25 and is a legitimate contender before a good number of fighters even turn pro. I don't mind these couple fights to boost his confidence. I think he is lined up for a big fight by the end of the summer.
It seems a lot of people share your sentiment though, because this Sam Peter bandwagon is awfully empty right now.
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Michael Grant all the way. I feel sorry for the guy actually, Teddy couldn't even straighten him out after that Lewis loss.
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I know this is not a true bust, but everyone thought he was the next Joe Louis who reigned for almost 12 years as the undisputed HW champ and that would be Tyson. Before you start jumping on this, notice I said it wasn't a true bust. But for his various titles and such Tyson had a title here and there for like four years total. And only splintered titles (WBA and WBC) for like six months since 1990. He made a shitload of money, but it seems like he should have been champ a lot longer and left the sport with a better image rather than his life so unglued. It would have been great if he had been able to retire undefeated after reigning for 6 or 7 years. Just my thoughts.