Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs

Shannon (34 years old) lately seems to LOVE fighting bums, he's had 10 fights since fighting Jameel McCline who one could say was his last "important fight". Since that time he has fought: Jeff Pegues, Ray Mercer, Abraham Okine, Marvin Hill, Wade Lewis, John Sargent, Demetrice King, Brian Scott, Dicky Ryan, Lucciano Zolyone, and he's scheduled to fight Chris Koval.

Before during and after these fights he's talked shit about a number of fighters, Sam Peter, The Ibrigamov's, The Klitschko's, Alexander Dimitrenko, etc. yet he hasn't stepped into the ring with a top contender since 2002 and he last fought for A belt in 1998 since then it's been a long steady ride to nowhere.

I honestly think since the Lewis fight he's been shit scared to get hit because he knows what it feels like to be totally demolished by a better boxer and harder puncher.

I give Shannon this, nobody crushes the C, D level fighters like him

i can honestly say your on to something 8)

Your right, But he is fast and does have a punchers chance.

Give him time. He's just working his way up slowly. When he's 50 or so he'll call out Lennox Lewis again.

Well I definitely prefer an active fighter over a guy who sits around and waits for some big payday that might never come. Briggs has fought a lot of journeymen over the last few years but that's fine by me. That's exactly what George Foreman did during his comeback. He got back into shape that way and it boosted his confidence to win a lot of fights. Briggs wasn't high ranked until recently so it was reasonable for him to fight guys ranked outside the top 20. He's won enough fights now against journeymen and is ready for better quality opponents again. If he beats Chris Koval I would say that he's all the way back to where he was after he beat Foreman over 8 years ago.

However, his weight for the upcoming Koval fight is too high, over 270 lbs. :

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=492745

I don't like it since there's no reason for him to be that heavy. He's just too lazy to train down to a proper weight. Look at what he weighed when he started his career:

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004629

Obviously he hasn't put on 60 lbs. of muscle since then. He hasn't made a believer out of me yet.

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Originally Posted by mokele

Well I definitely prefer an active fighter over a guy who sits around and waits for some big payday that might never come. Briggs has fought a lot of journeymen over the last few years but that's fine by me. That's exactly what George Foreman did during his comeback. He got back into shape that way and it boosted his confidence to win a lot of fights. Briggs wasn't high ranked until recently so it was reasonable for him to fight guys ranked outside the top 20. He's won enough fights now against journeymen and is ready for better quality opponents again. If he beats Chris Koval I would say that he's all the way back to where he was after he beat Foreman over 8 years ago.

However, his weight for the upcoming Koval fight is too high, over 270 lbs. :

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=492745

I don't like it since there's no reason for him to be that heavy. He's just too lazy to train down to a proper weight. Look at what he weighed when he started his career:

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004629

Obviously he hasn't put on 60 lbs. of muscle since then. He hasn't made a believer out of me yet.

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Good assessment

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Originally Posted by mokele

Well I definitely prefer an active fighter over a guy who sits around and waits for some big payday that might never come. Briggs has fought a lot of journeymen over the last few years but that's fine by me. That's exactly what George Foreman did during his comeback. He got back into shape that way and it boosted his confidence to win a lot of fights. Briggs wasn't high ranked until recently so it was reasonable for him to fight guys ranked outside the top 20. He's won enough fights now against journeymen and is ready for better quality opponents again. If he beats Chris Koval I would say that he's all the way back to where he was after he beat Foreman over 8 years ago.

However, his weight for the upcoming Koval fight is too high, over 270 lbs. :

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=492745

I don't like it since there's no reason for him to be that heavy. He's just too lazy to train down to a proper weight. Look at what he weighed when he started his career:

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004629

Obviously he hasn't put on 60 lbs. of muscle since then. He hasn't made a believer out of me yet.

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You are right, no way Briggs should weight that much. 240 to 250 would be a good weight for him IMO. I do think he would defeat either Ibragimov and possibly Peter, but he coud get KO'd by Peter too. That would be a good fight and one I want to see.

I may be wrong but I think talking shit about top level fighters then going on to fight guys like Chris Koval doesn't really show you off as badass. I mean we talk shit about class fighters everyday but then again we aren't fighting professionally.

Shannon is a farce at this stage in his career, I am HOPING for a Sam Peter or Ibrigamov fight, maybe even a McCline rematch. I want to see what Briggs actually has left in the tank and not him vs some hobo or whatever

he won tonight, knocked the guy out in the 3rd round

Said once and I'll say it again. Nobody crushes the C, D level fighter like Briggs does

how many confidence builders does this guy need?

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I may be wrong but I think talking shit about top level fighters then going on to fight guys like Chris Koval doesn't really show you off as badass. I mean we talk shit about class fighters everyday but then again we aren't fighting professionally.

Shannon is a farce at this stage in his career, I am HOPING for a Sam Peter or Ibrigamov fight, maybe even a McCline rematch. I want to see what Briggs actually has left in the tank and not him vs some hobo or whatever

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Yeah that loss to Mccline was a fukin embarassment. Now don't get me wrong I dislike the Klitschkos very much, but when Briggs standn next to Mccline, whom he had his ass beat by , who had his ass beat badly by Wladimir Klit, said in an interview "...and we all know what happens to Klitschkos when they get hit." And laughed. I was just like, what a dumass, he has no room to talk at all. ;D

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I may be wrong but I think talking S*** about top level fighters then going on to fight guys like Chris Koval doesn't really show you off as badass. I mean we talk S*** about class fighters everyday but then again we aren't fighting professionally.

Shannon is a farce at this stage in his career, I am HOPING for a Sam Peter or Ibrigamov fight, maybe even a McCline rematch. I want to see what Briggs actually has left in the tank and not him vs some hobo or whatever

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Yeah that loss to Mccline was a fukin embarassment. Now don't get me wrong I dislike the Klitschkos very much, but when Briggs standn next to Mccline, whom he had his a** beat by , who had his a** beat badly by Wladimir Klit, said in an interview "...and we all know what happens to Klitschkos when they get hit." And laughed. I was just like, what a dumass, he has no room to talk at all. ;D

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But atleast Briggs is fighting 3 to 5 times a year, A lot of the other fighters might fight twice if not once.

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I may be wrong but I think talking S*** about top level fighters then going on to fight guys like Chris Koval doesn't really show you off as badass. I mean we talk S*** about class fighters everyday but then again we aren't fighting professionally.

Shannon is a farce at this stage in his career, I am HOPING for a Sam Peter or Ibrigamov fight, maybe even a McCline rematch. I want to see what Briggs actually has left in the tank and not him vs some hobo or whatever

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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I like Shannon Briggs. He is definately a talented fighter, but that was just a dum thing to say. I wanna see him fight at least a lower top 10 guy soon though. Also this is off topic people, but what ever happend to Monte Barret? He was high in the rankings and fought Rahman in a borefest then dropped off the radar, where is he?
Yeah that loss to Mccline was a fukin embarassment. Now don't get me wrong I dislike the Klitschkos very much, but when Briggs standn next to Mccline, whom he had his a** beat by , who had his a** beat badly by Wladimir Klit, said in an interview "...and we all know what happens to Klitschkos when they get hit." And laughed. I was just like, what a dumass, he has no room to talk at all. ;D

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But atleast Briggs is fighting 3 to 5 times a year, A lot of the other fighters might fight twice if not once.

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Didnt he win an award last year something like
" most improved fighter"

When i saw that i was expecting him to make an impact on the Heavy top ten but not much has happened since
How come

Briggs beat Koval and honestly my opinion of Koval went down because of how badly he was beaten. Briggs did his job but I'm still not convinced that he's ready for the top heavyweights around today. Koval just isn't that good even though he went the distance with Dimitrenko.

Anyway, Briggs is gonna get a big fight now, within a year for sure, maybe within 6 months. If the guy has any sense at all he will start training right away, get his weight down to the 250 lb. range and take advantage of this opportunity to win a really big fight and get a big payday in the future. With his power he could probably knock out some of the other top 20 heavyweights. The younger, faster, durable ones [like Sam Peter, Brock, Chagaev, Dominick Guinn, etc.] would still beat him in my opinion by taking him into the later rounds when his age and excess weight would start to take their toll.

If Briggs is smart and can't motivate himself to train down then he should try hard to get a fight with an older, slower heavyweight that won't test his stamina. Guys like Danny Williams, Sinan Samil Sam, James Toney, DaVarryl Williamson would be good choices. A rematch with Jameel McCline sounds like a darn good fight to me, 2 big heavyweights that have both been busy and trying to work their way back up the ranks.

I just got off work so I didn't see the fight so I checked out Boxrec and saw the weight Briggs carried into this fight. Over 270. He was bigger than George Foreman when he fought Foreman. Yikes.

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I give Shannon this, nobody crushes the C, D level fighters like him

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he's like butterbean...only with better wind and boxing ability...fighting bums and thinking he's actually getting better...

Honestly I think Danny Williams would give Shannon a VERY tough fight.

Everyone knows he can't touch the top ranked guys which is why he's happy fighting on ESPN and not going after guys like Sam Peter. He's basically pulling the post prison Tyson con job. "Look at me, I can fight, this guy is a bum, they are all bums in the division, I've KO'd x ammount of people in a row, who has done that?"

Briggs is a sad....SAD man

coulda been a contender. He certainly had the attributes.

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Honestly I think Danny Williams would give Shannon a VERY tough fight.

Everyone knows he can't touch the top ranked guys which is why he's happy fighting on ESPN and not going after guys like Sam Peter. He's basically pulling the post prison Tyson con job. "Look at me, I can fight, this guy is a bum, they are all bums in the division, I've KO'd x ammount of people in a row, who has done that?"

Briggs is a sad....SAD man

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If he is pullin a Post Prison Tyson Con, then he still needs to win two World Titles and get KO'd by Evander Holyfield to complete the master plan. ;D ;)

....it could happen (but Tyson didn't so much WIN those titles as he was handed people to beat for them)

Shannon is a Bum.

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....it could happen (but Tyson didn't so much WIN those titles as he was handed people to beat for them)

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So you're sayin Seldon and Bruno were given those titles specifically so that later on down the road Tyson could knock them out and take them? Dunno bout that. IMO he woulda done the same to Michael Moore if he had the belts, Shannon Briggs if he had a belt, Tommy Morrison for his WBO belt if he wanted it and possibly Bid Daddy Bowe. The last one being the toughest fight and one Mike might have lost.

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Briggs beat Koval and honestly my opinion of Koval went down because of how badly he was beaten. Briggs did his job but I'm still not convinced that he's ready for the top heavyweights around today. Koval just isn't that good even though he went the distance with Dimitrenko.

Anyway, Briggs is gonna get a big fight now, within a year for sure, maybe within 6 months. If the guy has any sense at all he will start training right away, get his weight down to the 250 lb. range and take advantage of this opportunity to win a really big fight and get a big payday in the future. With his power he could probably knock out some of the other top 20 heavyweights. The younger, faster, durable ones [like Sam Peter, Brock, Chagaev, Dominick Guinn, etc.] would still beat him in my opinion by taking him into the later rounds when his age and excess weight would start to take their toll.

If Briggs is smart and can't motivate himself to train down then he should try hard to get a fight with an older, slower heavyweight that won't test his stamina. Guys like Danny Williams, Sinan Samil Sam, James Toney, DaVarryl Williamson would be good choices. A rematch with Jameel McCline sounds like a darn good fight to me, 2 big heavyweights that have both been busy and trying to work their way back up the ranks.

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Yes thats all reall true what i said here . . . Young and who got some ability and power with skills like Samuel Peter,Calvin Brock,RUslan Chagaev would KO Bringgs with a big chance . . . With Guinn i am not sure and it would be a close fight i guess... Because i dont see Guinn so good as he is . . .

From hhe ones over 30 Danny Williams and Williamson would close VS Briggs and Sinan Samil Sam too or even some better ... Hmmm James Toney would get the UD easy i think VS Briggs but who would get the KO would i would give more chance to Briggs but Toney got good chin...

I think a McCline re-macht would the best thing for Briggs or Whitaker ! ! !

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....it could happen (but Tyson didn't so much WIN those titles as he was handed people to beat for them)

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So you're sayin Seldon and Bruno were given those titles specifically so that later on down the road Tyson could knock them out and take them? Dunno bout that. IMO he woulda  done the same to Michael Moore if he had the belts, Shannon Briggs if he had a belt, Tommy Morrison for his WBO belt if he wanted it and possibly Bid Daddy Bowe. The last one being the toughest fight and one Mike might have lost.

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You're saying Seldon wasn't an easy fighter to beat? He's a scaredy cat
You're saying Bruno wasn't shot by that time? Tyson beat him in 1989 and was Frank any better in 1996?

Michael Moore? The film maker? Yeah I'm sure Tyson could have beat him

Michael Moorer? I don't know, at the time before Foreman KO'd him Moorer was pretty good, he beat Holyfield...more than Iron Mike can say.

Briggs before he lost to Lewis would have been tough, Morrison would have been tough for him, Bowe would have been tough for him. Tyson came back and DK wanted him to look invincible to pull more money for a fight vs Holyfield.

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....it could happen (but Tyson didn't so much WIN those titles as he was handed people to beat for them)

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So you're sayin Seldon and Bruno were given those titles specifically so that later on down the road Tyson could knock them out and take them? Dunno bout that. IMO he woulda done the same to Michael Moore if he had the belts, Shannon Briggs if he had a belt, Tommy Morrison for his WBO belt if he wanted it and possibly Bid Daddy Bowe. The last one being the toughest fight and one Mike might have lost.

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You're saying Seldon wasn't an easy fighter to beat? He's a scaredy cat
You're saying Bruno wasn't shot by that time? Tyson beat him in 1989 and was Frank any better in 1996?

Michael Moore? The film maker? Yeah I'm sure Tyson could have beat him

Michael Moorer? I don't know, at the time before Foreman KO'd him Moorer was pretty good, he beat Holyfield...more than Iron Mike can say.

Briggs before he lost to Lewis would have been tough, Morrison would have been tough for him, Bowe would have been tough for him. Tyson came back and DK wanted him to look invincible to pull more money for a fight vs Holyfield.

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Briggs usin his size might have been a chore, sam for Bowe. Morrison ...did you see the Mercer fight? Multiply that by two. And Moorer, well did you see his fight against David Tua? It would resemble something along the lines of that. ;D

They aren't confidence builders he's just staying active. If he waits and waits for a big fight to come he would be disadvantaged rather then staying active and when the big fight comes he'll have been active and ready for it.

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They aren't confidence builders he's just staying active. If he waits and waits for a big fight to come he would be disadvantaged rather then staying active and when the big fight comes he'll have been active and ready for it.

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I agree I would rather see him stay active instead of sitting around waiting and hopping for a fight with one of the top guys. He is building himself up so that an alphabelt gang will want him to fight for their title.

Sam Peter wasn't even as active when doing this and he still got a title shot opportunity ;D