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Arum:Hatton=relatively ordinary!
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Arum: Hatton relatively ordinary!
Tuesday, May 23 2006
What asked about chances of Jose Luis Castillo facing Ricky Hatton if Castillo gets by Diego Corrales on June 3, promoter Bob Arum stated on Tuesday, "I think Hatton has been exposed pretty much as being a relatively ordinary fighter based on his last fight. I don't think he is going to be ready to fight anybody real soon as long as he can grab HBO money to fight second rate fighters." Hatton promoter Dennis Hobson hit back later in the day, commenting "It was a little naughty of him to imply that Ricky would be content to grab easy HBO money when that is the exact opposite of what the Hitman is all about. Every boxing fans knows Ricky doesn't take a backward step in the ring - and he certainly doesn't take a sideward step when it comes to agreeing to fight the best possible opposition. And that most definitely includes Miguel Cotto and Jose Luis Castillo....Cotto is yet to win a genuine world belt. He's still in the kiddie pool with waterwings on. He's at WBO title level and is struggling to keep hold of that. Arum can't possibly be serious when he says that Ricky has anything to fear from Cotto."
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You would think that somebody like Arum would realize that Hatton took the fight at the higher weight on pretty short notice and that entering the ring at 160 pounds was probably the reason he looked ordinary!!
Without speed, work rate and staimina he is ordinary!!
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So why did he come in the Ring at 160 then, dont understand your point He didnt have to.
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Maybe it is time for Rick to think bout his between fight activities?
With blowing up the way he does he has to come down a long way, granted it isnt as far as if he were still at 140, but maybe thats the problem, maybe Ricks optimum weight is around 150-155, with him only coming down to 147 he might be pushing himself beyond his optimum fighting weight after rehydration.
If he is to stay, and win big fights at 147 he might have to think about staying closer to fighting weight to avoid getting to heavy come fight time.
I hope that makes a little bit of sense to someone other than me ;D
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Originally Posted by The Game
http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...VCsRPENGK.html
Arum: Hatton relatively ordinary!
Tuesday, May 23 2006
What asked about chances of Jose Luis Castillo facing Ricky Hatton if Castillo gets by Diego Corrales on June 3, promoter Bob Arum stated on Tuesday, "I think Hatton has been exposed pretty much as being a relatively ordinary fighter based on his last fight. I don't think he is going to be ready to fight anybody real soon as long as he can grab HBO money to fight second rate fighters." Hatton promoter Dennis Hobson hit back later in the day, commenting "It was a little naughty of him to imply that Ricky would be content to grab easy HBO money when that is the exact opposite of what the Hitman is all about. Every boxing fans knows Ricky doesn't take a backward step in the ring - and he certainly doesn't take a sideward step when it comes to agreeing to fight the best possible opposition. And that most definitely includes Miguel Cotto and Jose Luis Castillo....Cotto is yet to win a genuine world belt. He's still in the kiddie pool with waterwings on. He's at WBO title level and is struggling to keep hold of that. Arum can't possibly be serious when he says that Ricky has anything to fear from Cotto."
Arum is a greedy boxing promoter.
thats the way it is
If hatton was in his stable he wouldnt come out with that comment
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Originally Posted by Scrap
So why did he come in the Ring at 160 then, dont understand your point He didnt have to.
My point is it was a mistake by him and his team - doesn't make him ordinary, makes him ill prepared for that particular fight - quite clear to me really
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Didnt Arum also say Mayweather was a greater boxer then Leonard? Take no notice people!
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Big H see your point He has good habits in the gym , bad ones out of it
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I think your right Big H, i think firstly Hatton needs to be fighting more than twice a year, at least three times if you ask me, the more time he is out of the ring the more time he does damage to his body, fighting every six months with a camp of about 12 weeks means he is basically abusing his body for six months of the year, i am beginning to worry but lets see and judge after his next fight.
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Anyone Have a pic somewere of Hatton between fights???I cant picture him being a Lard ass..I know most fighters look far from ring condition between fights.
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Originally Posted by jtrock
Anyone Have a pic somewere of Hatton between fights???I cant picture him being a Lard a**..I know most fighters look far from ring condition between fights.
Dude he is huge remeber he is 5'6 and id say he weighs in at about 180 in between fights. But you cant fault him he works hard in the gym but works just as hard out of it ;D
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by jtrock
Anyone Have a pic somewere of Hatton between fights???I cant picture him being a Lard a**..I know most fighters look far from ring condition between fights.
Dude he is huge remeber he is 5'6 and id say he weighs in at about 180 in between fights. But you cant fault him he works hard in the gym but works just as hard out of it ;D
Damn I am 5'11 and 195 in good shape lifting and training in NHB MMA,Hatton must be a porker at 5'6 180
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Didnt Arum also say Mayweather was a greater boxer then Leonard? Take no notice people!
Though his lacy crap is off... ARum is right Mayweather is a superior boxer than Leonard IMO by a large margin in terms of skill and speed.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Didnt Arum also say Mayweather was a greater boxer then Leonard? Take no notice people!
Though his lacy crap is off... ARum is right Mayweather is a superior boxer than Leonard IMO by a large margin in terms of skill and speed.
I agree. I won't say that floyd will go down as being greater than srl but i do think that floyd is better technically than srl was.The big difference is srl had a lot of heart.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Scrap
So why did he come in the Ring at 160 then, dont understand your point He didnt have to.
My point is it was a mistake by him and his team - doesn't make him ordinary, makes him ill prepared for that particular fight - quite clear to me really
I agree, think it was the 6th? Started thinking to myself why isn't hatton throwing, he went 2-3 rounds without hardly throwing anything which is uncharacteristic for him. It's only clear to people who have been watching him for a while, getting used to that unbelievable workrate - then when he performs like that you know something is a bit off. The best thing that could happen (for Hatton) is someone like Mayweather starts buying into the fact he's an 'exposed fighter'. Although I think Floyd is smarter than that...
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Didnt Arum also say Mayweather was a greater boxer then Leonard? Take no notice people!
Though his lacy crap is off... ARum is right Mayweather is a superior boxer than Leonard IMO by a large margin in terms of skill and speed.
Large margins no way! Speed is relatively even, i give PBF the defensive edge, but Leonard was FAR more powerful at Welter with far more heart and a better chin.
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what a surprise a rival promoter is saying that. well it must be true then :-\
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I hope everyone can see what is going on. Arum is a little bitch. Before PBF left Top Rank, he started hyping up the Margarito fight saying that he had the date and arena reserved, blah, blah, blah. This was obviously an attempt to set up PBF if he left and basically call PBF a chicken. Arum is now suing Golden Boy Promotions over some BS, he wants to occupy De La Hoya's time and money and possibly throw a wrench in the Mayweather-ODLH fight in Sept. And now he is saying Hatton is ordinary; he is doing this to take some of the excitement and luster off of the future PBF-Hatton megafight everyone has been dreaming of. Arum is obviously trying to burn every single road PBF has since PBF left him. And because PBF was a complete gentleman about it, Arum can't come out and say anything bad about PBF, the only thing he can do is try to screw up PBF's options. I think that's what this is all about.
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Didnt Arum also say Mayweather was a greater boxer then Leonard? Take no notice people!
He did...but take notice of who & how Mayweather has beaten his opponents & take notice of who & how Hatton has beaten his...3 opponents. ;D
The rest on that record were one foot in the grave. ;)
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That being said...didn't Arum say something to the effect that Rahman was one of the best heavies in the game? :-X ::**
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Didnt Arum also say Mayweather was a greater boxer then Leonard? Take no notice people!
He did...but take notice of who & how Mayweather has beaten his opponents & take notice of who & how Hatton has beaten his...3 opponents. ;D
The rest on that record were one foot in the grave. ;)
Wacko thats a bit unfair, we all know how Hatton fights he aint no PBF, so how he wins is always going to be the harder way than the way Floyd wins most of his fights, also like i said before Hatton has only been in the mix for one year how long has Floyd had to fight his maybe three defining fights in his career??? 5/6 years??
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Scrap
So why did he come in the Ring at 160 then, dont understand your point He didnt have to.
My point is it was a mistake by him and his team - doesn't make him ordinary, makes him ill prepared for that particular fight - quite clear to me really
If it's your 41st PROFESSIONAL FIGHT this is not allowed....this is not a mistake...this is not even an "oops". It is noting more than an excuse to cover up the fact that hatton is just a good fighter and not a great one...He is already ducking Collazo by denying him a rematch...what next?..
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
That being said...didn't Arum say something to the effect that Rahman was one of the best heavies in the game? :-X ::**
He said that when future history books were written about boxing that Rahman would be considered alongside Ali and Foreman as one of the top 3 heavies of modern times.
Which is slightly less believable than David Icke's claim that the British Royal Family are actually a reptillian master race hell bent on destroying the earth.