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Clash of the Titans II(Lewis-Grant was the first). I was wondering the potential of Nikolai, cause I saw his dominating performances. The fight with Ruiz was just too ugly, anyway Ruiz' fights are like that. I was thinking give this guy a few more high caliber fights, then maybe he can stand up to Wlad.
Valuev might be able to take WLAD like 5 years from now, but right now Wlad is on his game.
Although it would be awkward to have to be on the inside for the fight, he has good enough training to compensate.
I think he could give Wlad trouble, and Vitali and Lewis. I don't think he would beat them. This is because although these are all immensely talented boxers when the heat is on them they all adopt the same strategy; gloves up and hide behind their jab.
Quote Lewis after Tyson "It was all about my jab nobody gets away from my jab"
Against a guy with such a huge reach advantage their usual fallback position is negated.
Having said that I don't think that he could beat any of them yet, however he has the potential to be able to. With his massive size and raw power he can do things as powerfully as other fighters without necessarily having the technique. imagine if you had the technical boxing skills of Lewis inside the monstrous body of Valuev! Nobody and I mean Nobody would get away from that jab!!!
Cool Clicked yah! :coolclick: When I was only hearing Valuev I thought he was this oversized boxer who moves awkwardly, but after watching some of his fights "Man this guy may have it!" That's it LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG JAB!Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisbird13
The thing normally when someone is that big there not cordinated enough to be as good as say lewis or vitali. I don't see this guy realling doing to much at all to be honest. I think if ruiz had a rematch ruiz would be him, even though I dont want that to happen because I can't stan ruiz. I think the only reason this guy is hyped is because of his size and nothing else, he don't even look that powerful to be honest with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisbird13
Well he is also hyped because he is a title holder, undefeated and represented by Don KingQuote:
Originally Posted by Wadeb_21
Those are valid points I'll give you that. I wish Don King would just disapear though man that guy has been around way to long.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
IMO Valuev should lose this badly... He isn't good enough.. I also thought he was better than everyone was saying, but he isn't world class in terms of skill. I think he has a good chin and the power even with his ugly technique to knock Wlad, but he'll had a hard time hitting Wlad if Wlad moves his head around at all, and beats Valuev to the punch. I would prefer to see Peter vs. Valuev because its more a freak show, and both are equally bad in terms of technique, and while one has height the other has more power than perhaps anyone thats ever boxed.
OH SHIT, i checked valuev's age after you said that cuz i thought he was at least 37, the motherfucker is only 32!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
valuev has NO ablity to use his feet, he is SOOO slow when it comes to moving aroiung the ring, he isnt too slow woith his hands but thyre long enough for wladmir see his shots coming and have a suffifient amount of time to move, big wladdy would just beat the fuck out of him, i think valuev has a good chance aginst any other HW, and i think most HWs from the last 10 years (all the guys who have everyone kissing thier ass, and the guys whos absence is peoples reason for overlooking big vladdy) would loose to valuev, he just needs to lean back, he leans in and gives up his height...
maybee he does that cuz he isnt fast and he fells like his opponents have less time to react to him throwing when he leans in???
big vladdy wold KTFO ANYONE ALIVE, especially peter in a rematch now that he is not afraid of him :D :D :D
"Clash of the Titans" was actually Ali/NortonIII ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintymen
As for the question; Wlad should have far more ability than the big Russian, and should win an easy decision IMO.
I gotta give Valuev credit though he is the best 7' + boxer I have seen
Wow! I never knew that was billed "Clash of the Titans" too. CC BritKidQuote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
And also I suspect, the only 7'+ boxer you have seen!!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wadeb_21
Well there is also Julius Long but.......Sam Peter may have finished him for goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
Wlad would completely humiliate Valuev....I don't rate Valuev higher than Primo Carnera!!!
I read an interview recently with Valuev in which he expressed interest in such a fight, but he said that it has to be ok with his manager. Personally I would like to see such a fight but I doubt that Wladimir Klitschko wants it. Wladdy is strictly an outside boxer and that might not work against a far taller opponent. If Wladdy was younger I would suggest that he could learn the inside fight game but it's too late for that now. Wladdy is better off choosing opponents that are more taylor-made for his style, smaller guys without a big punch.
Oh guys like Jameel McCline?
Wlad has intrest in fighting another title holder, Valuev has a title, I assume this fight would pack the house in Germany or anywhere else.
Wlad might like fighting on the outside but look at it this way, he's younger, faster, and has a hell of a lot more power. If Larry Donald can basically outbox BigFoot then Wlad should have very little trouble with him.
he said on ESPN that valuev was someone he wantedQuote:
Originally Posted by mokele
he said he wanted rahman, and if rahman wasnt available he wanted brock, then he said he wasted a few others, valuev was included
Wlad knocks him out within 5 rounds
Yeah I missed him on Friday Night Fights, what else did they ask him?Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
wlad would pick valuev apart before stopping him.....no contest IMO....
I really want to see the fight happen because Valuev doesn't deserve to go 49-0-0 without fighting anyone but bums!
if wlad wants it enough and the moneys right, there is no rwason we cant see it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
wlad would beat him to a pulp though....
Yes, that could be a great display of Wlad's skill....I really don't see ANY power from Valuev...he's tall but he doesn't have anything on his punches
exactly, and for such a tall guy he doesnt even have a particularly effective jab to keep wlad at bay...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
easy pickings IMO....
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big vladdy wold KTFO ANYONE ALIVE, especially peter in a rematch now that he is not afraid of him
I would definitely never bet any money on Wlad ever beating a puncher like Peter. Because everyone knows that if he doesn't get KO'd it's only because he was lucky enough not to really get tagged! Although I will admitt Wlad has proven himself to be the best in the division. He just isn't a sure bet when it comes to him fighting punchers. Because let's face it he doesn't have no where near the chin his brother had. Damn I wish vitali would come back!
If I was Valuev I'd much rather possess Wlads jab than Lewis'Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintymen
i cant remember, im pretty sure they asked him something about the peter fight while playing clips of him fallingQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
OH YEAH,
he was asked if vitali would come back now that he lost the election and wladmir said what has been said that if lennox comes back he probably would, otherwise not