Alright this is enough hype people, Joe Calzaghe aint superman!

For god sake can everyone stop hugging his fucking nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint shit compared to calzaghe, mundine aint shit compared to calzaghe, beyer aint shit compared to calzaghe, green aint shit compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is fucking huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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For god sake can everyone stop hugging his F****** nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint S*** compared to calzaghe, mundine aint S*** compared to calzaghe, beyer aint S*** compared to calzaghe, green aint S*** compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is F****** huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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The Americans has to hype Calzaghe as he made their best SMW look foolish, very foolish.

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Originally Posted by Snakey

For god sake can everyone stop hugging his F****** nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint S*** compared to calzaghe, mundine aint S*** compared to calzaghe, beyer aint S*** compared to calzaghe, green aint S*** compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is F****** huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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Your right :coolclick:

Calzaghe gets hyped because he's the best in a seemingly weak division. It's "seemingly weak" because the talent there is young and unseasoned.

If Calzaghe needs tougher fights he should step up to 175 or go down to 160!

How did I know that you two would be on this thread like a Fly on shite?... ::**

(Calzaghe beats them all... I don't think any one has said he can walk through any one the same way he did lacy)

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How did I know that you two would be on this thread like a Fly on shite?... ::**\

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I respect Joe's ability I just think Lacy was a little green for him. Calzaghe can totally dominate the division though I mean vs Kessler or anyone else he'll win. Let him fight Taylor or Hopkins or Tarver or even Johnson for a tougher fight

well 3 people replied Lyle... two of which are potent Kessler fan boys who can rarely if ever make a post on here with it 'it all coming back to kessler'.

Use your head and think who 'those two' might be...

K, just checking that's all....I give everyone a fair shake....but Calzaghe has fought better fighters than Kessler who seems to me to be a 168 version of Nicolay Valuev with the opposition he fights

Calzaghe is actually officially superman after beating lacy so convincingly ::**



incase u didnt know lol

He was RJJ-esque on that night imo. He was simply brilliant and Lacy IS championship material and I still think he will be champ but Calzaghe is one of the all time great 168 lbers now imo. I don't think anyone in the division could have beat him that night. That terrible terrible night.

They won't give Lacy ANY credit because it would elevate Calzaghe too high above Kessler and they couldn't cope with it... ::**

Honestly... search the pair of thems posts... the talk about no one other than Kessler or Jeff Lacy...

i agree with the original post,im a huge calzaghe fan,i was there in manchester and anybody seeing that performance live would find it difficult to say anything other than 'joe would destroy x,y and z'.
however there are competitive fights at smw for him,kessler in particular.'styles make fights' applies to joe more than any other fighter i can think of,joe is most vunerable when the fight doesnt get him fired up,i see that as his biggest danger at smw,there is a risk of joe beating himself in that situation.The better the opponent the better joe fights,i believe he deems the other smw as being unfit to share a ring with him-on the occasions he has thought that before he has looked awful.(thornberry,starie for example)

If he had to read how 'Lacy are bum and Kessler are king' 24/7 it would be over for Kessler with in a round... its so irratating... I don't mind other people's opinions... I can't stand nuthuggers ;)

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"You two" meaning???

I respect Joe's ability I just think Lacy was a little green for him. Calzaghe can totally dominate the division though I mean vs Kessler or anyone else he'll win. Let him fight Taylor or Hopkins or Tarver or even Johnson for a tougher fight

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isn't that Joe C's plan? fight the winner of Tarver/B-HOP? who else honestly stands a chance at beating him....not Kessler, mundine or green.....He's not going to drop to 160....

lyle,were you joking about calzaghe dropping down to 160?

Tarver would outbox him imo
And yes, Lacy was overhyped

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Tarver would outbox him imo
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I think Tarver is the only guy he has a realistic chance of fighting soon, that has a realistic chance of winning... But it would by no means easy.. Who has Tarver ever really outboxed, he had to go through hell to do so against Glen Johnson and he was in trouble in both fights... He could barely outbox old Reggie Johnson who managed to drop him late.. And Eric Harding flat out beat him. Tarver isn't some great skilled boxer like ppl seem to think... If anything he is a half assed brawler because he just throws flurries for about 30 seconds or so per round... Having said that he is a very strong southpaw with a granite chin who is bigger then Calzaghe, and given the way they both like to fight I could see it being a very good match.. But I just think calzaghe can outwork Tarver, Tarver does what he did for 36 minutes against Lacy, for about 30 seconds every round.. And still manages to gass out late, but you never know how Calzaghe will handle Tarvers power, especially if he tastes some big shots.

i think cazaghe would handle tarver's power fine,he didnt go down once from the age of 12 til he fought mitchell,which is the only real knockdown of his career.in over 200 senior amateur fights he didnt go down once,and in 40 pro fights he has only been down once legitimately

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For god sake can everyone stop hugging his F****** nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint S*** compared to calzaghe, mundine aint S*** compared to calzaghe, beyer aint S*** compared to calzaghe, green aint S*** compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is F****** huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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Snakey...it's like this...to my knowledge...you never really followed Calzaghe closely...atleast not closely enough to pass good judgement.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion...so here's mine...& this is honesty...not just a slap for a slap.

I kind of felt the same way about Kostya that you do about Calzaghe. I personally don't think that Kostya is all that...not like everyone else does or did.

On the flip side...Calzaghe's a bit more worthy of having his balls tugged because he's undefeated & has defended his title for many years. Something that Kostya wasn't to sucessful at.

People on this site are going to be up in the air over the man because he is the people's champ of the region...just like I am sure that Kostya was & I am sure if you got on some Aussie site...that'd be all you would hear...the sound of Kostya's balls gently squeeking as they were squeezed...so let it go.

Now...Calzaghe's accomplishments...if you were to have followed his career...far surpass just beating Lacy. The total destruction of Lacy get's Calzaghe high praise because whether or not anyone wants to admit it...he was going to rule the division. Lacy is not one dimensional...he just got his ass kicked by a superior fighter. Lacy was not the only fighter that Calzaghe has fought & to say that the rest were nobodies shows that you know very little about the division that you are criticizing...which really surprises me.

As far as opponents go...I don't see anyone at 168 that can give him competition...not Kess, Beyer, Mundine, & all the rest.

Speaking of your countryman...Mundine & his chances against Calzaghe...oh my. Yes Mundine is quick but to say that he has great evasive skills is a stretch. Calzaghe might not have knocked out Thornberry...but Joe's never been beaten...Mundine's been whacked all around the ring & he also got his ass laid out by Sven Ottke. Sven Ottke...I mean...need I fwockin laugh?

Let's just wait & see how Joe does at 175lbs...there's where the competition lies.

Glen Johnson is the next opponent...maybe he will have the answers to the new questions that are now arising for Calzaghe.

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They won't give Lacy ANY credit because it would elevate Calzaghe too high above Kessler and they couldn't cope with it... ::**

Honestly... search the pair of thems posts... the talk about no one other than Kessler or Jeff Lacy...

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Credit for what? Taking a worse beating than Ashira?

This is not like I after the fight start posting that Lacy was hyped and useless. It was clear from the first time I saw him box.

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They won't give Lacy ANY credit because it would elevate Calzaghe too high above Kessler and they couldn't cope with it... ::**

Honestly... search the pair of thems posts... the talk about no one other than Kessler or Jeff Lacy...

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Credit for what? Taking a worse beating than Ashira?

This is not like I after the fight start posting that Lacy was hyped and useless. It was clear from the first time I saw him box.

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Sorry about that AdamGB...I was trying to remove a duplicate post & accidentally removed yours by mistake...slip up on my part.

Sorry again.

damnz what hype
hype is someone who hasnt fought good opponents
who hasnt done anything to prove his worth
calzaghe is a tru champion with real boxing skillz
he's still undefeated and is willing to fight the best

i dont get your point
think there are enuff others who really get hyped
and arent worth shit
go pick on them ;D

lets see if you still feel the same
after he has beaten every worthy opponent available

Lacy cannot really be seen as hugely overhyped as he has held 2 of the major titles and a minor one. AND he is still rated as third best super-middleweight by the IBO who use a non-subjective ranking system, and he has only had 21 fights (17KOs, so that is only three fights he has won where he hasn't knocked out his oppo)

Although what is not on his side is he is knocking on the oor of 30 so can't have many years left in him. Lacy never attracted this much abuse until he was beaten by Calzaghe. He should be cut some slack, as he still has an impressive record

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Lacy cannot really be seen as hugely overhyped as he has held 2 of the major titles and a minor one. AND he is still rated as third best super-middleweight by the IBO who use a non-subjective ranking system, and he has only had 21 fights (17KOs, so that is only three fights he has won where he hasn't knocked out his oppo)

Although what is not on his side is he is knocking on the oor of 30 so can't have many years left in him. Lacy never attracted this much abuse until he was beaten by Calzaghe. He should be cut some slack, as he still has an impressive record

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:coolclick: Very well put.

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For god sake can everyone stop hugging his F****** nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint S*** compared to calzaghe, mundine aint S*** compared to calzaghe, beyer aint S*** compared to calzaghe, green aint S*** compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is F****** huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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Cheers Wacko

it winds me up because abuse aimed at Lacy is purely to discredit the calzaghe win. Which whatever way you look at it was an excellent show, it is not often you see a world chamion lose every single round. It is a shame that Calzaghe didn't get the perfect 120 cos of that cheeky behind the back punch

Snakey, I for one am getting tired of all the Hype as well. According to most on this forum now, Calzaghe is unbeatable from 168-175, its ridiculous. I honestly think some people on here are going to be in for a shock when he fights Johnson.

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Snakey, I for one am getting tired of all the Hype as well. According to most on this forum now, Calzaghe is unbeatable from 168-175, its ridiculous. I honestly think some people on here are going to be in for a shock when he fights Johnson.

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There will be no shock Hulk, guaranteed.

Calzaghe has fought everybody available to him, never ducked anybody, champ for 9 years - unbeaten in 41 fights, only losts about 2 of 130 amatuer fights and they were when he was about 16

has fought and beaten:

Robin Reid - Held WBC Belt
Chris Eubank 2 weight WBO Champ
Charles Brewer - Held IBF belt
Byron Mitchell - Held IBF belt
Richie Woodhall - Heldl WBC belt
Mario Veit - twice
Jeff Lacy - IBF Champ - The 2nd coming and new Mike Tyson ;D

I make that guys that have held all 4 major belts - so not "Nobodies"

I'm not sure who his has failed to meet in the SMW division in his reign???

Could say Jones or Hopkins, but his camp tried to make both of those fights

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For god sake can everyone stop hugging his F****** nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint S*** compared to calzaghe, mundine aint S*** compared to calzaghe, beyer aint S*** compared to calzaghe, green aint S*** compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is F****** huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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Snakey...it's like this...to my knowledge...you never really followed Calzaghe closely...atleast not closely enough to pass good judgement.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion...so here's mine...& this is honesty...not just a slap for a slap.

I kind of felt the same way about Kostya that you do about Calzaghe. I personally don't think that Kostya is all that...not like everyone else does or did.

On the flip side...Calzaghe's a bit more worthy of having his balls tugged because he's undefeated & has defended his title for many years. Something that Kostya wasn't to sucessful at.

People on this site are going to be up in the air over the man because he is the people's champ of the region...just like I am sure that Kostya was & I am sure if you got on some Aussie site...that'd be all you would hear...the sound of Kostya's balls gently squeeking as they were squeezed...so let it go.

Now...Calzaghe's accomplishments...if you were to have followed his career...far surpass just beating Lacy. The total destruction of Lacy get's Calzaghe high praise because whether or not anyone wants to admit it...he was going to rule the division. Lacy is not one dimensional...he just got his ass kicked by a superior fighter. Lacy was not the only fighter that Calzaghe has fought & to say that the rest were nobodies shows that you know very little about the division that you are criticizing...which really surprises me.

As far as opponents go...I don't see anyone at 168 that can give him competition...not Kess, Beyer, Mundine, & all the rest.

Speaking of your countryman...Mundine & his chances against Calzaghe...oh my. Yes Mundine is quick but to say that he has great evasive skills is a stretch. Calzaghe might not have knocked out Thornberry...but Joe's never been beaten...Mundine's been whacked all around the ring & he also got his ass laid out by Sven Ottke. Sven Ottke...I mean...need I fwockin laugh?

Let's just wait & see how Joe does at 175lbs...there's where the competition lies.

Glen Johnson is the next opponent...maybe he will have the answers to the new questions that are now arising for Calzaghe.

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Mate... i dont need to follow someones career closely to comment on the bullshit being thrown around this forum. He aint unbeatable! How many times has calzaghe struggled to win against shit guys? Now he beats lacy hes unbeatable. How isnt lacy one dimensional? He looks for his power shot and trys to overwhelm his opponent with his power, he has no boxing skill. Styles make fights mate. Mundine got knocked out by ottke....have you seen the fight? Did you notice it was mundines 11th fight, did you notice he was beating ottke at the time of the ko and did you notice mundine was exhausted and that also he never even sparred for the fight? Answer this for me wacko, who hits harder...ottke or green and kessler? Coz hes fought kessler and green and hasnt been down. If kessler and calzaghe fight i think id tip joe....but not by much. He aint unbeatable and thats all im saying.

Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

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Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

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Yeah look i dont really care about details....i just dont think hes unbeatable. ;)

Snakey WTF??

The guy is unbeaton, he was predicted by 90/95% of people he was getting KO'D within 5 rounds against Lacy but he actully put on the best clinic for years, i think your getting a bit excited about Mundine and now think he is the new RJJ, am i right?? What because he beat that Green fella who looked shit to put it nicely, the guy is an unbeaten World Champ the longest reinging Champ in World Boxing, so the hype is justified, and if he ever steps in with Mundine, you will see how good he really is.

But he aint unbeatable but tell me who beats him right now?? no one in the 168 division, if Winky moves up that would be hell IMO for the WInkster, and at 175 i feel he beats Tarver, so he goes into all those fights as a favourtie for me, so the hype is justified.

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Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

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Yeah look i dont really care about details....i just dont think hes unbeatable. ;)

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Sorry Snakey, I thought we were havin a discussion and details are quite useful ???

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Snakey WTF??

The guy is unbeaton, he was predicted by 90/95% of people he was getting KO'D within 5 rounds against Lacy but he actully put on the best clinic for years, i think your getting a bit excited about Mundine and now think he is the new RJJ, am i right?? What because he beat that Green fella who looked shit to put it nicely, the guy is an unbeaten World Champ the longest reinging Champ in World Boxing, so the hype is justified, and if he ever steps in with Mundine, you will see how good he really is.

But he aint unbeatable but tell me who beats him right now?? no one in the 168 division, if Winky moves up that would be hell IMO for the WInkster, and at 175 i feel he beats Tarver, so he goes into all those fights as a favourtie for me, so the hype is justified.

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I think kessler can beat him ;)

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Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

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Yeah look i dont really care about details....i just dont think hes unbeatable. ;)

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Sorry Snakey, I thought we were havin a discussion and details are quite useful ???

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We are...but right now i aint interested in details got i got a shit load of homework and assignments due tomorrow and i dont have time to go into details. I wrote this post this morning just after reading a couple of posts about calzaghe...wasnt in a great mood so i didnt mean some of the shit i said but i still dont think hes unbeatable and i think kessler can beat him.

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Snakey WTF??

The guy is unbeaton, he was predicted by 90/95% of people he was getting KO'D within 5 rounds against Lacy but he actully put on the best clinic for years, i think your getting a bit excited about Mundine and now think he is the new RJJ, am i right?? What because he beat that Green fella who looked S*** to put it nicely, the guy is an unbeaten World Champ the longest reinging Champ in World Boxing, so the hype is justified, and if he ever steps in with Mundine, you will see how good he really is.

But he aint unbeatable but tell me who beats him right now?? no one in the 168 division, if Winky moves up that would be hell IMO for the WInkster, and at 175 i feel he beats Tarver, so he goes into all those fights as a favourtie for me, so the hype is justified.

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I think kessler can beat him ;)

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Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

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Yeah look i dont really care about details....i just dont think hes unbeatable. ;)

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Sorry Snakey, I thought we were havin a discussion and details are quite useful ???

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We are...but right now i aint interested in details got i got a S*** load of homework and assignments due tomorrow and i dont have time to go into details. I wrote this post this morning just after reading a couple of posts about calzaghe...wasnt in a great mood so i didnt mean some of the S*** i said but i still dont think hes unbeatable and i think kessler can beat him.

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But in another thread you say Mundine would beat Kessler??? So does that mean you think Mundine would beat Calzaghe to?

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Originally Posted by Snakey

For god sake can everyone stop hugging his F****** nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good...but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret....lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint S*** compared to calzaghe, mundine aint S*** compared to calzaghe, beyer aint S*** compared to calzaghe, green aint S*** compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler...the guy is F****** huge and he can hit....but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills....not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer.....he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake....he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.

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No one is suggesting that Calaghe is unbeatable. The fact is he is one of the best out there and produces when it matters. You can cleat on about his performances against the likes of Salem, but when he's up for it he performs.

No one is unbeatable, but in the SMW division he comes pretty close, as there's really no one to challenge him.

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Snakey WTF??

The guy is unbeaton, he was predicted by 90/95% of people he was getting KO'D within 5 rounds against Lacy but he actully put on the best clinic for years, i think your getting a bit excited about Mundine and now think he is the new RJJ, am i right?? What because he beat that Green fella who looked S*** to put it nicely, the guy is an unbeaten World Champ the longest reinging Champ in World Boxing, so the hype is justified, and if he ever steps in with Mundine, you will see how good he really is.

But he aint unbeatable but tell me who beats him right now?? no one in the 168 division, if Winky moves up that would be hell IMO for the WInkster, and at 175 i feel he beats Tarver, so he goes into all those fights as a favourtie for me, so the hype is justified.

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I think kessler can beat him ;)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

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Yeah look i dont really care about details....i just dont think hes unbeatable. ;)

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Sorry Snakey, I thought we were havin a discussion and details are quite useful ???

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We are...but right now i aint interested in details got i got a S*** load of homework and assignments due tomorrow and i dont have time to go into details. I wrote this post this morning just after reading a couple of posts about calzaghe...wasnt in a great mood so i didnt mean some of the S*** i said but i still dont think hes unbeatable and i think kessler can beat him.

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But in another thread you say Mundine would beat Kessler??? So does that mean you think Mundine would beat Calzaghe to?

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Styles make fights and i dont know if mundine can beat calzaghe but i think kessler can coz he is big...strong and can box and that should give calzaghe loads of trouble. Based on mundines first performance against kessler and now his performance against green....yes i think he can beat kessler. Like it or not, mundine is good and when he rises to the occasion...he is very good.

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Dont be dissing him like that man just coz your trying to hide that your the biggest black superman fan there is ;D