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Only a Sparring Session,but Soliman is Taking Kessler to School
7Minutes long but a good watch
I know you cant judge anything on Sparring period!!!!It was a cool video to watch Soliman is so awkward and unorthodox
Sorry late Nite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY-Kl...l%20kessler%20
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Originally Posted by jtrock
7Minutes long but a good watch
I know you cant judge anything on Sparring period!!!!It was a cool video to watch Soliman is so awkward and unorthodox
pls give up the link!!!!
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a link would indeed be useful here
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Just when you think you found something good...you turn around and fuk it up LOL!!!!!!
Thanks for picking me up Lyle!!!!!!
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Pretty boring sparring session, Kessler doesn't really do anything but jab, although he is a fairly methodical and boring fighter usually.. I dont know how you see it as Soliman taking him to school though, Kessler was backing him up with everything and constantly walking forward, theres no contest in terms of who's punches have impact.. Soliman is just akward and I don't even know how he stays on his feet sometimes... Seems he REALLY gets around in sparring circuits though, I can definetly see why as well, he'll make anyone work. Other fighters respect him and he probably makes good money doing it.
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Re: Only a Sparring Session,but Soliman is Taking Kessler to School
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Originally Posted by jtrock
excellent vid....wow...soliman look really good...Kessler looks suceptable to overhand rights and doesn't seem to handle punches in bunches very well...I know it is just sparring but you can see flaws in someones style...you fight how you practice..Kessler holds his left wayyy down and freezes when more than 2 punches come at him in a flurry.... that's what I saw in the vid...I didn't see all of it but that's what I saw..... who are the b*tches that keep sad clicking me...step up and be a man...at least explain yourself!!!!!....
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I see Sam landing some good shots, nothing out of the ordinary....Kessler looked damn slow and baffled by the jabs though
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The ovewhelming size different is what got me.. Sam looked like he was landing some good shots and doing what he does best giving different angles and looks which had Kessler confused on what to throw and when..
Again sparring session only I understand!! but Kessler is hyped Like Ivan Drago and looked ordinary against a smaller Middleweight in Soliman at least while sparring
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I have said it before, Kessler hasn't fought anyone decent...other than a 50 year old Eric Lucas (whom he TKO'd in the fucking 10th round!!!)
How did RJJ do against Eric after that basketball game again???
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by ross
I bet Teymor is giving him nightmares in sparring
I hope so, so Kessler would be sharp for the Tsypko fight :)
-but Teymor lost to Sam Soliman and Kess uses to give Sam hell in sparring. Soliman is often used by Team Palle for sparring. He has sparred a lot with both Martin Nielsen, Rudy Markussen and Mikkel Kessler.
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But I definitely wouldn't say he took him to school. He gave him fits, yes, but he didn't land much. Though Kess did look uncomfortable but that is because of Sam's style. But like I have always said, Kessler doesn't fight good when he is being charged straight ahead and that is when Soliman had sucess against him. He definitely didn't give him hell though ::**
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by ross
I bet Teymor is giving him nightmares in sparring
I hope so, so Kessler would be sharp for the Tsypko fight :)
-but Teymor lost to Sam Soliman and Kess uses to give Sam hell in sparring. Soliman is often used by Team Palle for sparring. He has sparred a lot with both Martin Nielsen, Rudy Markussen and Mikkel Kessler.
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He is....
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by ross
I bet Teymor is giving him nightmares in sparring
I hope so, so Kessler would be sharp for the Tsypko fight :)
-but Teymor lost to Sam Soliman and Kess uses to give Sam hell in sparring. Soliman is often used by Team Palle for sparring. He has sparred a lot with both Martin Nielsen, Rudy Markussen and Mikkel Kessler.
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He is....
He is what? Giving him hell?
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Re: Only a Sparring Session,but Soliman is Taking Kessler to School
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Originally Posted by jtrock
You apparently do not know S*** about boxing. The part of this sparring session you have linked to is from Australia and taped by 4 Sport from Denmark a few days before Kessler met Mundine as part of a daily diary of Kessler. If you have ever been into a gym you knew that a boxer is NEVER doing any heavy sparring the week leading up to a fight. Moron.
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by jtrock
You apparently do not a single shit about boxing. The part of this sparring you have linked to is from Australia and taped by 4 Sport from Denmark a few days before Kessler met Mundine as part of a daily diary of Kessler. If you have ever been into a gym you know now that a boxer is NEVED doing any heavy sparring the week leading up to the fight. Moron.
But you just said he gave Soliman hell ???
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by jtrock
You apparently do not a single S*** about boxing. The part of this sparring you have linked to is from Australia and taped by 4 Sport from Denmark a few days before Kessler met Mundine as part of a daily diary of Kessler. If you have ever been into a gym you knew that a boxer is NEVER doing any heavy sparring the week leading up to a fight. Moron.
Listen Dikweed it was a link I found, I know it was just sparring dosent matter if it was 2 years 2 months 2 days or even 2min before the fight it is what it is...It wasnt dated and who the Fuk are you to call me a moron a$$ Clown...Better stuff than you contribute and here is your much deserved :sadclick: choke on that
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by jtrock
You apparently do not a single S*** about boxing. The part of this sparring you have linked to is from Australia and taped by 4 Sport from Denmark a few days before Kessler met Mundine as part of a daily diary of Kessler. If you have ever been into a gym you knew that a boxer is NEVER doing any heavy sparring the week leading up to a fight. Moron.
Listen Dikweed it was a link I found, I know it was just sparring dosent matter if it was 2 years 2 months 2 days or even 2min before the fight it is what it is...It wasnt dated and who the Fuk are you to call me a moron a$$ Clown...Better stuff than you contribute and here is your much deserved :sadclick: choke on that
:coolclick: jtrock
Thanks for posting the clip.
It's pointless to even try to have an intelligent conversation with azumir...he is someone who is often best avoided & ignored because he will once again be banned & come back under some other name with the same ignorant opinions.
Ignore him, he's only pushing buttons.
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Cause Kessler tries to block everything with his arms, he leaves an opening whenever he does, you beat Kessler with rhythm ;)
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Originally Posted by Starr
Cause Kessler tries to block everything with his arms, he leaves an opening whenever he does, you beat Kessler with rhythm ;)
You also clock him right after he hooks because he often stops to admire his work.
I like Kess...but he does have a few inadequacies.
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Then why doesn't any Kessler fan think that Mundine could beat him in a rematch ::**
Anytime Mundine threw his left hook Kessler would drop his front hand and Mundine would clock him with a right, Kessler still has that opening and Mundine has gotten better. Really see Lucas as a step backwards compared to Mundine so of course Kessler is gonna look like he improved when he didnt ;)
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by jtrock
You apparently do not a single S*** about boxing. The part of this sparring you have linked to is from Australia and taped by 4 Sport from Denmark a few days before Kessler met Mundine as part of a daily diary of Kessler. If you have ever been into a gym you knew that a boxer is NEVER doing any heavy sparring the week leading up to a fight. Moron.
Listen Dikweed it was a link I found, I know it was just sparring dosent matter if it was 2 years 2 months 2 days or even 2min before the fight it is what it is...It wasnt dated and who the Fuk are you to call me a moron a$$ Clown...Better stuff than you contribute and here is your much deserved :sadclick: choke on that
:coolclick: jtrock
Thanks for posting the clip.
It's pointless to even try to have an intelligent conversation with azumir...he is someone who is often best avoided & ignored because he will once again be banned & come back under some other name with the same ignorant opinions.
Ignore him, he's only pushing buttons.
Thanks Wacko a Cool Click back at you....Some people you cant reason with..... too bad
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Originally Posted by Starr
Then why doesn't any Kessler fan think that Mundine could beat him in a rematch ::**
Anytime Mundine threw his left hook Kessler would drop his front hand and Mundine would clock him with a right, Kessler still has that opening and Mundine has gotten better. Really see Lucas as a step backwards compared to Mundine so of course Kessler is gonna look like he improved when he didnt ;)
The thing is this...Mundine is always going to fall just a bit short when it comes to Kessler because (fast or not) Kessler has already had a taste of Mundine & if that injured story was true...a full Kess will have little to no issues with him.
Also...Mundine never really hurt Kess...sure he hit him...but he didn't have anything that inflicted much damage or instilled any fear.
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He still got clean shots off and hit Kessler with clean shots and it doesn't matter if he instilled fear or not, a braver Kessler would only mean Mundine would counter him more ;)
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May be just sparring but Kessler looks pretty crappy.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I have said it before, Kessler hasn't fought anyone decent...other than a 50 year old Eric Lucas (whom he TKO'd in the fucking 10th round!!!)
How did RJJ do against Eric after that basketball game again???
He dominated him last time I checked. 8) Soliman can give anybody problems, he was a real handful for the "unbeatable" Winky Wright even.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
Cause Kessler tries to block everything with his arms, he leaves an opening whenever he does, you beat Kessler with rhythm ;)
You also clock him right after he hooks because he often stops to admire his work.
I like Kess...but he does have a few inadequacies.
Yes, Wiseman Wacko….one better agrees with you else his opinion is stupid or wrong…. – and yes Kessler is so damn hittable as you try to hint – I guess that is because of his poor defence, bad footwork and slow hands. That might also be the reason that he has lost so many rounds in his entire campaign as amateur/pro and that he had taken so many counts and knock downs, not to talk about his marked face…….
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I have said it before, Kessler hasn't fought anyone decent...other than a 50 year old Eric Lucas (whom he TKO'd in the F****** 10th round!!!)
How did RJJ do against Eric after that basketball game again???
Lyle, that must be one of your dumbest post ever…..
Do you really think that Kessler has not fought a decent opponent? If you don’t consider Mundine as a decent opponent (The Ring’s #3), then there is only Calzaghe left in the SMW division to get a decent opponent?.....
Only one decent opponent in SMW? I guess not. If you take on a top 10 SMW, then you fight a decent opponent IMO.
By the way RJJ went 12 rounds against Lucas. It was a TKO12.
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He was hitting Kessler at will. Kessler's jab isn't bad but even for sparring his defence was piss poor. He was almost hit at will.
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by jtrock
excellent vid....wow...soliman look really good...Kessler looks suceptable to overhand rights and doesn't seem to handle punches in bunches very well...I know it is just sparring but you can see flaws in someones style...you fight how you practice..Kessler holds his left wayyy down and freezes when more than 2 punches come at him in a flurry.... that's what I saw in the vid...I didn't see all of it but that's what I saw..... who are the b*tches that keep sad clicking me...step up and be a man...at least explain yourself!!!!!....
There you go. Sc 25 for trying to act tough
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by jtrock
excellent vid....wow...soliman look really good...Kessler looks suceptable to overhand rights and doesn't seem to handle punches in bunches very well...I know it is just sparring but you can see flaws in someones style...you fight how you practice..Kessler holds his left wayyy down and freezes when more than 2 punches come at him in a flurry.... that's what I saw in the vid...I didn't see all of it but that's what I saw..... who are the b*tches that keep sad clicking me...step up and be a man...at least explain yourself!!!!!....
There you go. Sc 25 for trying to act tough
Why dont you try adding something to this forum instead of thinking your some comedian bitch??? Thats about the third time you have sad clicked someone, for no reason other than your a prick, why dont you grow up, but your behind your little keyboard and monitor, so your just fine. Tosser!
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I have said it before, Kessler hasn't fought anyone decent...other than a 50 year old Eric Lucas (whom he TKO'd in the F****** 10th round!!!)
How did RJJ do against Eric after that basketball game again???
Lyle, that must be one of your dumbest post ever…..
Do you really think that Kessler has not fought a decent opponent? If you don’t consider Mundine as a decent opponent (The Ring’s #3), then there is only Calzaghe left in the SMW division to get a decent opponent?.....
Only one decent opponent in SMW? I guess not. If you take on a top 10 SMW, then you fight a decent opponent IMO.
By the way RJJ went 12 rounds against Lucas. It was a TKO12.
Let me drop some knowledge right here and now!
The majority of guys fighting at 168 are there because they...
1) Couldn't cut it at 160
2) Couldn't cut it at 175
3) Are starting out light to work up to 175
4) Are finishing heavy after careers at 154-160
(the point is that 168 is usually a stepping stone to somewhere else very few guys like Calzaghe, Toney, and Eubank stay there for long periods of time cementing their legacies)
Mundine? NO Mundine isn't a "class opponent" he was knocked out by Svenn Fuckin Ottke!!!!
Kessler hasn't fought ANYONE! RJJ dominated Lucas after a basketball game and that was 10 fuckin years ago and Lucas still wasn't anything to write home about!
As I have said before call me when Kessler's opponents are better than Valuev's!
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I really want to see Calzaghe-Kessler.
I think Calzaghe would overhealm Kessler with his flurry combinations.
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I think there are a ton of guys who can beat Kessler
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I think there are a ton of guys who can beat Kessler
Okay Lyle, pleas just name five of them so I can return to you and make you look stupid within a year. Please just name five of them.......now!
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Calzaghe, Taylor, Dawson, Lacy (yeah that's right), and Pavlik.....you probably want some more though don't you...that was too easy.
Johnson, Miranda, Abraham, Curtis Stevens, John Duddy
I just don't see what the fuss is about...he's slow, he's predictible...his punching power should be questioned and his chin chould also be questioned because he hasn't fought another power puncher
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I have said it before, Kessler hasn't fought anyone decent...other than a 50 year old Eric Lucas (whom he TKO'd in the F****** 10th round!!!)
How did RJJ do against Eric after that basketball game again???
Lyle, that must be one of your dumbest post ever…..
Do you really think that Kessler has not fought a decent opponent? If you don’t consider Mundine as a decent opponent (The Ring’s #3), then there is only Calzaghe left in the SMW division to get a decent opponent?.....
Only one decent opponent in SMW? I guess not. If you take on a top 10 SMW, then you fight a decent opponent IMO.
By the way RJJ went 12 rounds against Lucas. It was a TKO12.
Let me drop some knowledge right here and now!
The majority of guys fighting at 168 are there because they...
1) Couldn't cut it at 160
2) Couldn't cut it at 175
3) Are starting out light to work up to 175
4) Are finishing heavy after careers at 154-160
(the point is that 168 is usually a stepping stone to somewhere else very few guys like Calzaghe, Toney, and Eubank stay there for long periods of time cementing their legacies)
Mundine? NO Mundine isn't a "class opponent" he was knocked out by Svenn F****** Ottke!!!!
Kessler hasn't fought ANYONE! RJJ dominated Lucas after a basketball game and that was 10 F****** years ago and Lucas still wasn't anything to write home about!
As I have said before call me when Kessler's opponents are better than Valuev's!
Have a cool one :P
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Thank you, cc back
I am all for fans but as a fan you have to understand what areas your favorite fighter has or has not been tested in. For example Lacy-Calzaghe, Jeff had never fought a guy that could box and had power, he had never really had his chin checked (though most believed it was good enough), his power was questionable but no one brought it up due to his physique and style of fighting, he never had his heart tested (though in my book he passed with flying colors due to the Calzaghe fight), he hadn't fought a quality opponent because there are so few in 168, and he never had to go to Plan B vs anyone, and vs Calzaghe he had no Plan B...so Calzaghe exposed Jeff as being too green and onesided for the tip top of the division, it's not a bad thing but that's what happens in boxing, Jeff Lacy has hopefully learned a valueable lesson and will come back smarter and stronger
