prime tyson vs joe frazier
as much as i admire and respect frazier --id pick tyson with a ko in 8
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tyson at age 20 would give frazier a run for his money, frazier would give tyson some problems not sure how many, but tyson would be too quick and powerfull for Frazier. tyson would eventually wearing him down in the mid rounds 6 or 7th round ko for tyson. but frazier would be no walk in the park for tyson. old tyson would lose for sure
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anytyson that lost to holyfeild would have lost ...Joe would have been harder to hit than u relize and would counter probably more than your thinking cause dont forget its not a tall man hes fighting ...joe ate up anyone his size
when i interveiwed joe for the site we asked him that same question ..i'll pull it back up if u never saw it :)
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Prime Tyson wears Joe down with his speed and power along with his head movement making him hard to hit. This would be no easy ride however...... Tyson KO8.
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Originally Posted by means2184
anytyson that lost to holyfeild would have lost ...Joe would have been harder to hit than u relize and would counter probably more than your thinking cause dont forget its not a tall man hes fighting ...joe ate up anyone his size
when i interveiwed joe for the site we asked him that same question ..i'll pull it back up if u never saw it :)
i think prime tyson beats holyfield, and i think prime tyson stops frazier in 9....
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as much as i admire and respect frazier --id pick tyson with a ko in 8
Joe would have a signifigant disadvantage in the speed department..To me the amazing thing about Tyson wasnt just his feroscious punching power but his ability to throw 4-5 punch combo's with blazing speed...Early Tyson wasnt always looking for the big bomb..He would set his combo's off the Jab and then BOOM, BOOM, BANG, SPLAT... GOODNITE!!!
I see Joe Getting overwhelmed By Tysons Handspeed :jabbing: and eventually wilt from Tysons power....Joe would be game of course, constantly moving forward and standing in front of Mike he would take 2-3 to give 1 and you cant do that with Mike. He Would destroy him...Just as Bad as Foreman did if not worse...Remember Tyson always did well with people who came forward and stood in front of him..
Tyson by TKO or KO round 3 :boxingmatch:
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as much as i admire and respect frazier --id pick tyson with a ko in 8
Joe would have a signifigant disadvantage in the speed department..To me the amazing thing about Tyson wasnt just his feroscious punching power but his ability to throw 4-5 punch combo's with blazing speed...Early Tyson wasnt always looking for the big bomb..He would set his combo's off the Jab and then BOOM, BOOM, BANG, SPLAT... GOODNITE!!!
I see Joe Getting overwhelmed By Tysons Handspeed :jabbing: and eventually wilt from Tysons power....Joe would be game of course, constantly moving forward and standing in front of Mike he would take 2-3 to give 1 and you cant do that with Mike. He Would destroy him...Just as Bad as Foreman did if not worse...Remember Tyson always did well with people who came forward and stood in front of him..
Tyson by TKO or KO round 3 :boxingmatch:
good post :coolclick:
my only contention is the prediction of such an early stoppage...if bruno can go 5 with tyson, i think frazier can go the extra rounds before being stopped...
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Originally Posted by undefeated
as much as i admire and respect frazier --id pick tyson with a ko in 8
Joe would have a signifigant disadvantage in the speed department..To me the amazing thing about Tyson wasnt just his feroscious punching power but his ability to throw 4-5 punch combo's with blazing speed...Early Tyson wasnt always looking for the big bomb..He would set his combo's off the Jab and then BOOM, BOOM, BANG, SPLAT... GOODNITE!!!
I see Joe Getting overwhelmed By Tysons Handspeed :jabbing: and eventually wilt from Tysons power....Joe would be game of course, constantly moving forward and standing in front of Mike he would take 2-3 to give 1 and you cant do that with Mike. He Would destroy him...Just as Bad as Foreman did if not worse...Remember Tyson always did well with people who came forward and stood in front of him..
Tyson by TKO or KO round 3 :boxingmatch:
good post :coolclick:
my only contention is the prediction of such an early stoppage...if bruno can go 5 with tyson, i think frazier can go the extra rounds before being stopped...
:coolclick: Thanks Back at you....I say 3 because Joe was a Warrior and would keep coming forward...The more he comes forward the more he gets hit....Might be similiar to Hagler vs Hearns but not as spectacular
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perhaps. you could well be right. my arguement is just that the only time frazier has been bombed out really is against foreman who i think is perhaps a harder puncher than tyson.....i just think tyson would need a little more time with an accumulation of damage.....
regardless, the result would be the same, tyson would stop him....
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Originally Posted by miles
perhaps. you could well be right. my argument is just that the only time frazier has been bombed out really is against foreman who i think is perhaps a harder puncher than tyson.....i just think tyson would need a little more time with an accumulation of damage.....
regardless, the result would be the same, tyson would stop him....
Again not trying to pick this point to death but Speed kills and when you got hand speed like that and just brutal power to boot you got double trouble.....
But I agree with you the eventuality is obvious
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Originally Posted by miles
perhaps. you could well be right. my argument is just that the only time frazier has been bombed out really is against foreman who i think is perhaps a harder puncher than tyson.....i just think tyson would need a little more time with an accumulation of damage.....
regardless, the result would be the same, tyson would stop him....
Again not trying to pick this point to death but Speed kills and when you got hand speed like that and just brutal power to boot you got double trouble.....
But I agree with you the eventuality is obvious
in boxing there are so many factors concerning a fight that predicting the actual winner is more than enough....you might be more accurate and so might I....thats part of the fun of boxing. just debating....and really there is no winner unless a fight is actually going to happen....
agreeing on the result is enough for me in this debate :)
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by miles
perhaps. you could well be right. my argument is just that the only time frazier has been bombed out really is against foreman who i think is perhaps a harder puncher than tyson.....i just think tyson would need a little more time with an accumulation of damage.....
regardless, the result would be the same, tyson would stop him....
Again not trying to pick this point to death but Speed kills and when you got hand speed like that and just brutal power to boot you got double trouble.....
But I agree with you the eventuality is obvious
in boxing there are so many factors concerning a fight that predicting the actual winner is more than enough....you might be more accurate and so might I....thats part of the fun of boxing. just debating....and really there is no winner unless a fight is actually going to happen....
agreeing on the result is enough for me in this debate :)
Agreed ;)
Re: prime tyson vs joe frazier
If Foreman hammered Frazier down, so would a prime Tyson.
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Originally Posted by undefeated
as much as i admire and respect frazier --id pick tyson with a ko in 8
Tyson KO in 3...power of Forman and freaky speed....best trainers in the biz.....and meaner....
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Mike Tyson in 9. Mike's legend will grow even more after he has been away from the ring a little while longer. He has been put down so much by so many boxing analyst for so long because of his antics. But any fan of the sport of boxing will tell you that there are very few heavywieghts in history with the Talent of Tyson if any.
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Prime Tyson would overwhelm even Frazier.
Tyson by KO within 6
