just trying to settle a disagreement.....I think the flag stands for Racism now......maybe not when it was first made but now I think it does....
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just trying to settle a disagreement.....I think the flag stands for Racism now......maybe not when it was first made but now I think it does....
No the flag is a symbol uses the same cross that's on the scottish flag and 13 stars to represent the suceeding states.
It doesn't stand for racism to me, it stands for State's Rights.
Alas I am not black so I can't say what it means to them...I feel pride in my southern heritage but I'm no racist just because of where I am from.
Idiots who use the flag for racist reasons like the reminents of the Klan and moron White Supremicists in Idaho and Montana paired with the Nazi Swastika really piss me off.
FYI, the Confederate States of America would have had a jewish president sooner than the US would have. Judah P. Bejamin was the first Treasurer of the CSA and he also was the Secretary of State and was in line to become President but the war ended.
the Confederate States of America would have had a jewish president sooner than the US would have what does that have to do with the price of beans in China????? exactly...why did you pull that attempt of "The South wasn't racist..Honest" crap......You're doing a pretty good job of searching the internet to find positive things about the South...pretty tough time you're having..."We would have elected a Jewish person first?" You know that was never going to happen in the south because as you just said....:when the war ended"....the south knew they were losing the war before it even started....South=losers.....give it up...you lost.....the south will never "rise" again....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I have never saw it as racist..merely a reflection of regional pride. Peeps are proud to be from the South. Peeps are proud to be from Texas.
hell Ive even seen someone here be proud of being from the Buckeye State and it even wasnt the big ragu....tis was the original buckeye the one and only Brad4rdboxer. May he rest in peace.
He aint dead, he's just resting and his wife should leave him alone while he is resting. A man deserves to rest in peace after work. may he also drink his beer in peace.
The big ragu..you know there was a tv character back in the day....Laverne and Shirley show I think.
was his name carmine? All I remember was that he always sang Youll never go from rags to riches or something like that
him and the Fonz once hung out so I guess he was cool.
laverne's dad was pretty cool too and Lennie and Squiggie were funny.
I just never saw laverne nor shirley as attractive and I could not figure out how guys wanted to vodee o do do with them.
cc for the knowledge nostalgia....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
As a Texan and proud southern man I view the flag as symbol of southern pride...I also recognize how some people can see it as a symbol of hate...its very unfortunate that many unsavory groups in our country perpetuate it as such...that being said I think most southerners look at it as symbol of the things that make our region great and unique.
The South was winning the war until Stonewall Jackson was shot and killed and his battle plans were found.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
I didn't search the internet for jack...I know things, I like history.
You are just arguing, I'm presenting historical FACT...there is a difference, one is what grown ups do and the second is what you do.
It stands for all the Southern Confederate freedom of the South, The majority of the South did not own slaves, The farmers of the south were too poor. But the North on the other hand 7 out of ten families owned and mistreated slaves. Although the South did have a ratio of about 3 out of 10 families that actually owned slaves, The slaves were treated with more dignity and had their own house to live in on the plantation, While the Northern slaves were treated as more or less has animals, The South has gotten a bad rep for this S***. The South is not a bunch of Klu Kluk Klan members having sex with the sisters....LOL That's just the misinterpretation of crap films.
The South was winning the war until Pres Lincoln told the slaves to fight for their freedom and then the south simply was out numbered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
just for the record...I am a Tommy Morrison fan...and I was getting lyle all p'd off...and every one has their own facts that support their beliefs on this war...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Cool man, Lyle seems like a cool guy. No need for candy land bullshat on here though. Saddo will boot us all to curb.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
yeah...gotta get back to talking boxing....Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
a national flag isnt racist IMO, its more a reflection of nationalist sentiments.....
personally speaking, ive little time for flags and nationalism when it becomes overtly political....
there is nothing wrong with someone waving a national flag at a soccer game though, we will see a lot of that over the next month and its a harmless thing really.....
It represents the southern states
It also represents slavery of ethinic minorities.
Which was nothing novel during the 1860'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheps
Yes slavery is bad, yes racism is bad but in the historical context of the situation the South was not all that bad, and racism and slavery were not confined to just that area.
I'm not resting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
I was just faking with my eyes closed. :hubbahubba:
The Buckeye Flag.
Respected & admired by all.
See ragu?
Even the west coasters like the highly regarded Mad_Dog himself acknowledge it, & salute it.
:army:
;)
The BigRagu & I are the lone representatives of Buckeyeism on this board!
yeah we showed you have to do it and we nicked it off the romans who nicked it off the greeks who nicked it off etc.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I can understand how people can think the Rebel Flag stands for racism.
When some people fly it, I'm sure that is the intension.
But when I see it, it just says to me that this person is proud to be from south of the Mason Dixon line.
Not offensive to me, just shows home pride.
(and a little hillbilyism) ;D
aye, but proud of what exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by brad4dboxer
I like it when a chick says aye
or eye for that matter.
Proud of where I'm from, proud of my family history, and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Missy
Proud to eat better than you brits too
I'm a proud southern man, proud to hunt innocent deer, proud to hate anyone breathing the white man's air, proud to have sex with my sister. I seen this coon talking to my sister the other day and I said to him....
Look here n****r! That theres MY sister! If anyone has sex with her it's gonna be me!
I know that post was in jest, however, the granola eatin tree hugging hippies that don't want deer to be shot don't realize that their predators aren't as numerous these days and that by not controling their numbers via hunting they would over populate and hurt the ecosystem.
I don't care if anyone breathes my air...it's better than what I had to breathe in, in New Jersey
I don't really have an opinion on hunting, never had the balls to shoot an animal. Always been tempted to shoot another person though, have a feeling it might be exilarating. And you get to help with the overpopulation epidemic.
I'm not one for "trophy" hunting...if I kill something I'm going ot eat it. Unless of course it's a human...I ain't into that cannibalism shit....unless I'm stuck in the Andes with the Argentine Rugby teamQuote:
Originally Posted by raleights
O-H!!Quote:
Originally Posted by brad4dboxer
Proud to be an American
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You have nothing to be proud of, you are not responsible for your familys history nor where you were born so that's just plain ole yank stupidity. I wouldn't call grits food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
What's always irked me about Lyle is the state of his teeth...:bucktooth:
I bet he likes nascar..hillbillies watching the cars go round and round for 3 hours.
Steelie, go in their drugstores and you can buy hick teeth :shinner:
isn't a limey referencing a southerners teeth a little like the pot calling the kettle black?
LOL
You've never seen my teeth, but I can bet you they are better than yours!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelie
I think it's silly that Missy or Lyle would be so proud of where they come from. Why's it hard to admit both countries are as fucked up and as far away from being enlightened as one could be ::**
No sense in sitting around doing the my dad can beat up your dad routine, making you look (as my asian friends would say) extremery bitter ;)
But I'm one sexy mother so it's hard for me to sit around and get pissed about the shortcomings of my government when I can just look in the mirror.... a luxory not all of us have
I axe mysef de same ting Raleights. I too am the sessy motha fracka, one look at de ol M_D and I stop being pissed mon.
by de way learn how to spell the queen's English
luxory? dis aint las vegas man dis here by the Saddo board, de board wheres every man knows how to spell
this hither should be luxury
Anyone ashamed to fly their own national flag is a Kunt.
8)
damn that M_D went one step further with black awareness, I can't contend with his rap
it's too good so I'm not gonna reply
Smashup and his pasty complexion are a different story, and he can fuck off to east side boxing 8) :dance1: