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Id love to see this fight, to see if Haye has really got World Class KO power, i fancy Bell KO 8, if this fight came off!!
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Id love to see this fight, to see if Haye has really got World Class KO power, i fancy Bell KO 8, if this fight came off!!
The hayemaker would fuck up any 200lb fighter on the planet, he'd make mormeck or bell look a joke.
I think Bell is a step too far atm for My boi Hayemaker.
Hipefully we'll find out, but you saw the state of Gurov didn't ya, all it took was a 1-2, i though he was meant to be world class aswell! Bell has a heck of a chin though, but still, Haye is the BOMB!Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Yea but he can't take the punishment he dishes out ;)
If only there was boxer that could :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Starr
I'm saying that he can hit these hard and power punch and bully and etc etc etc be the hardest puncher in all of boxing but once somebody taps that chin.... he can't do it ;D
You know what the answer to taking a punch is, delivering one before they do, thats why its so hard to stay unbeaten, one day its bound to happen, ESPECIALLLY fighting 200lb+ BUT David Haye is the man who can deliver it first. Believe me, David Haye is no Herbie Hyde.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
no but he is an antonio tarver
Haye got beaten by Thompson quite badly, he aint going nowhere and if he thinks that big gawky chin is gonna hold up at heavy hes got another thing coming. It wasnt just poor conditioning that night, it was poor defence and every time one of Carls shots got through that poor defence his poor chin gave way.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I'm not a big fan of this division but I'd have to say,O Neil Bell is one stubborn and tough guy,the beating he took from Mormeck and then to come back and stop him.I think he crushes Haye!!!
What makes you say that? Stamina?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Id love this, David has immense power, more than anyone in the division by quite a way. Oneil Bell has a rep for starting slow and if David can get to him early, he could dominate this.
As long as he cuts down on the partying before the fight, which Im sure he will, he could win this fight.
I'd like to see that fight...Haye fought one top notch cruiser already in Carl Thompson and got KTFO! by the way Thompson got KTFO by Ezra Sellers in 4 rds....and Sellers retired after getting destroyed by BELL in 2 rds......hayemaker is right...that is the only shot he has at bell...with a haymaker....Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Using the man who beat the man method never works, and this case is no different. I think that a fight of this size and magnitude would now bring out the best in Haye, second tier fighters he expects to kneel before him after three minutes, if he doesnt already he should get it drummed into him that the likes of Bell wont wilt at the mere sight of him and he has to BOX for 12 rounds.
Haye KO 1 8)
Well usually the man who beat the man doesn't work, but in this case Haye was beaten by an OLD man, who wasn't a great fighter either, so I think it's safe to say alot of people could beat him if they got to his chin... He will always be kill or be killed, imo.
On a very bad night.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Anyone who knows Dave or follows him knows that wasnt his best. Many things could of contributed to that, he was fighting a top ten cruiserweight too early in hi career because the BBC wanted the big fight. Maybe David wasnt conditioned best, he hadnt had the rounds in his career necessary for such a fight.
I will maintain my view that if David gets on top of Bell early, he should knock him out, Bells a slow starter and David is the polar opposite and has power better than any other cruiser out there.
Fact is with a bit more experience, if his career is handled properly David could easily mix it with the heavyweights of the moment. He kills himself to get under 200 and without doubt in my mind could EVENTUALLY claim a world heavyweight title
That old man knocked Sebastian Rothman cold a good two years before Rothman was a worthy foe for Bell ;)
I agree with that last part, Haye is and always will be whack or get whacked at top flight.................I wouldnt have it any other way either ;D
Haye was very green back then and didn't have things right, unfortunatly Bell is doing that superfighter thing and may be staying a HW after that so we won't get to see it. I'm actually reallys surprised by the amount of skepticism there is about Haye, is it because he is English?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
No im English as you probably already know, and i have seen Haya around 5/6 times, i think he will be exposed, his stamina is awful and he looked nothing great in his last fight, thats just in my opinion though, he hasnt even had 20 fights if his promoters are serious about getting in there with O Neil Bell, there in for a big shck i feel he will be badly beaton.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I thought the way Haye came on strong in the second half against Johanson was quite encouraging, he came out looking the business then spent a few rounds no doubt confussed as to why Johanson hadnt crumbled, but then got back on with things in the later rounds, I was encouraged by that anyway.
Thats fair enough for me mate, but i dont no why Haye who has had around 18 fights ( Correct me if im wrong) wants to fight the undisputed Cruserweight Champion of the World at this point in his carreer?? He is only 25/26 years of age, if he is struggling to make weight id just move up, i think it's a very long shot if he thinks he can be the best Cruserweight in the World in his next two three fights and move up for me it aint happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis