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Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Damn guys. I think that this is the true definition of a toss up. I think that Jermain is gonna win it though. Taylor hasn't gotten the respect that he deserves. All these people are singing B-Hops praises now that he beat Tarver, but a lot of people were saying that Taylor beat a past-it Hopkins. I think that Jermain's defense is the key to this fight. His defense is vastly underrated IMO. Winky is gonna keep coming forward and Taylor is gonna jab his ass all night. Taylor UD 12. What do yall guys think?
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Winky, UD... Taylor doesn't throw angles on the inside and technically they are his only real weakness and he can still cope with them.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
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Winky, UD... Taylor doesn't throw angles on the inside and technically they are his only real weakness and he can still cope with them.
I see it going the same....I still think Taylor is a little green and Winky is far too cagey not to frustrate Taylor...I'm betting for the UD but think Winky wins by stoppage.......
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Jermain is gonna win this fight by UD or Stoppage. Jermain is gonna get rough with Winky. You will see.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
did you see the punishment Winky got when he got rough with Vargas Taylor can't get rough enough (probably ;)).
Based off what I have seen of Vargas and Taylor I don't think Taylor beats him on the inside or outside... just like Vargas couldn't out fight him (filthy judging...)
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
VArgas isnt half the fighter Taylor is. Vargas is nothing more than a hype job and whenever he faced real competition got it handed to him. Taylor is much more powerful and explosive than Vargas. Not to mention just a better all around boxer. Vargas is no middleweight.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
I voted Winky UD, but its flip a coin material....i really just dont know.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Taylor found a way past B-hop (if you agree with the judging or not) he will find a way past Winky.
Taylor UD. I still think Taylor is going to be to big and strong for Winky. Winky has a great defense and jab, but I think it will come down to Winky not having any power to make Taylor respect him.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
I think Taylor will win a close decision.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
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Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
The way I look at it is that Taylor won two close decisions against B-hop that had enough power to make Taylor respect him. Winky lacks that power, I am not saying that Taylor is gong to whip his a$$. But Taylor has been in with the best and came out on top. Winky is along the same lines as Hopkins except that he is busy. I dont think that Taylor will be bothered by this at all. I have a lot of respect for Winky, but I think Taylor takes the UD.
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Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
The way I look at it is that Taylor won two close decisions against B-hop that had enough power to make Taylor respect him. Winky lacks that power, I am not saying that Taylor is gong to whip his a$$. But Taylor has been in with the best and came out on top. Winky is along the same lines as Hopkins except that he is busy. I dont think that Taylor will be bothered by this at all. I have a lot of respect for Winky, but I think Taylor takes the UD..What can J.T.possibly do that winky hasn't seen and adjusted to time and time again.Taylor is about to be schooled even in the HBO...countdown Emannuel Steward only said "on june 17,JT will be a well -balanced fighter .."he's trying to straddle the fence. he has told me out of his-own mouth that no-one will beat Winky..those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
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did you see the punishment Winky got when he got rough with Vargas Taylor can't get rough enough (probably ;)).
Based off what I have seen of Vargas and Taylor I don't think Taylor beats him on the inside or outside... just like Vargas couldn't out fight him (filthy judging...)
Vargas even in his prime is a hardly a flicker of a flame compared to Taylor in speed and power combined.
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Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
The way I look at it is that Taylor won two close decisions against B-hop that had enough power to make Taylor respect him. Winky lacks that power, I am not saying that Taylor is gong to whip his a$$. But Taylor has been in with the best and came out on top. Winky is along the same lines as Hopkins except that he is busy. I dont think that Taylor will be bothered by this at all. I have a lot of respect for Winky, but I think Taylor takes the UD..What can J.T.possibly do that winky hasn't seen and adjusted to time and time again.Taylor is about to be schooled even in the HBO...countdown Emannuel Steward only said "on june 17,JT will be a well -balanced fighter .."he's trying to straddle the fence. he has told me out of his-own mouth that no-one will beat Winky..those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W.
You are making Winky out to be some god like boxer, and he is not. He is one of the best in the business, but far from unbeatable, Soliman proved that. I believe Taylor has the ability to beat Winky. He is going to be physically a bigger fighter than what Winky has fought before, which can affect the fight.
"those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W." Who said that is how Taylor is going to win this fight? He wont have to go inside to win. He has the ability to fight him inside and on the outside.
I will repeat myself: Winky is one of the best in the business, but he is far from unbeatable. I believe that Taylor has a good shot at winning this fight.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Winky by UD all the way :)
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Easy win for Taylor, by 4 rounds min.
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Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
The way I look at it is that Taylor won two close decisions against B-hop that had enough power to make Taylor respect him. Winky lacks that power, I am not saying that Taylor is gong to whip his a$$. But Taylor has been in with the best and came out on top. Winky is along the same lines as Hopkins except that he is busy. I dont think that Taylor will be bothered by this at all. I have a lot of respect for Winky, but I think Taylor takes the UD..What can J.T.possibly do that winky hasn't seen and adjusted to time and time again.Taylor is about to be schooled even in the HBO...countdown Emannuel Steward only said "on june 17,JT will be a well -balanced fighter .."he's trying to straddle the fence. he has told me out of his-own mouth that no-one will beat Winky..those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W.
You are making Winky out to be some god like boxer, and he is not. He is one of the best in the business, but far from unbeatable, Soliman proved that. I believe Taylor has the ability to beat Winky. He is going to be physically a bigger fighter than what Winky has fought before, which can affect the fight.
"those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W." Who said that is how Taylor is going to win this fight? He wont have to go inside to win. He has the ability to fight him inside and on the outside.
I will repeat myself: Winky is one of the best in the business, but he is far from unbeatable. I believe that Taylor has a good shot at winning this fight.Evidently you don't know boxing ....or you're thinking of a different fighter. Have you ever seen J.T fight anyone inside? Hell NO! and for you to use Soliman as an example is ludicrous ...Winky had a lung infection and Soliman threw over 1200 PUNCHES.and still lost.TarVER and B-hop threw 800 combined..IMO he is a SUPER FIGHTER until someone -anyone looks good against him..I'm not gonna straddle the fence and say-"J.T CAN win'' J.T is in with a fighter who has arguably never lost a fight .......56-0....those are mean numbers .
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Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
The way I look at it is that Taylor won two close decisions against B-hop that had enough power to make Taylor respect him. Winky lacks that power, I am not saying that Taylor is gong to whip his a$$. But Taylor has been in with the best and came out on top. Winky is along the same lines as Hopkins except that he is busy. I dont think that Taylor will be bothered by this at all. I have a lot of respect for Winky, but I think Taylor takes the UD..What can J.T.possibly do that winky hasn't seen and adjusted to time and time again.Taylor is about to be schooled even in the HBO...countdown Emannuel Steward only said "on june 17,JT will be a well -balanced fighter .."he's trying to straddle the fence. he has told me out of his-own mouth that no-one will beat Winky..those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W.
You are making Winky out to be some god like boxer, and he is not. He is one of the best in the business, but far from unbeatable, Soliman proved that. I believe Taylor has the ability to beat Winky. He is going to be physically a bigger fighter than what Winky has fought before, which can affect the fight.
"those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W." Who said that is how Taylor is going to win this fight? He wont have to go inside to win. He has the ability to fight him inside and on the outside.
I will repeat myself: Winky is one of the best in the business, but he is far from unbeatable. I believe that Taylor has a good shot at winning this fight.Evidently you don't know boxing ....or you're thinking of a different fighter. Have you ever seen J.T fight anyone inside? Hell NO! and for you to use Soliman as an example is ludicrous ...Winky had a lung infection and Soliman threw over 1200 PUNCHES.and still lost.TarVER and B-hop threw 800 combined..IMO he is a SUPER FIGHTER until someone -anyone looks good against him..I'm not gonna straddle the fence and say-"J.T CAN win'' J.T is in with a fighter who has arguably never lost a fight .......56-0....those are mean numbers .
First you are the one the brought up Taylor fighting on the inside you did. Comparing old men Tarver and B-hop to this is just as ludicrous, B-hop has not been known to throw 50+ punches a round in a long time. My point is that everybody keeps making Winky out to be unbeatable, which he is not. I think Taylor can and will win. How am I straddling the fence when I am trying to make a case for Taylor? If I am argueing for him then obviously I think he can win, and I realize that he can lose. I dont view fights through (insert fighters name here) colored glasses, I know that there is just as much chance of him winning as losing. But I have not changed from my view point of Taylor winning in any post.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
I have no doubt that winky will make J.T look confused and disorientated....to say the least ...he'll learn within the first 5 rounds that those monkeys he has been sparring weren't Winky .. .then you'll see his punch output drop.. then its to the collection window for me once again :laugh:
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
this should be a good fight. my vote goes for taylor O0
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
I think Taylor's gonna KO him within 8.
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
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I think Taylor will win a close decision.
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Originally Posted by fatsandy
Winky by ud...didn't you people learn from last night that size a couple pounds heavier doesn't have any affect on seasoned professionals . How can J.T possibly win ? outside or inside ? there's no way!
The way I look at it is that Taylor won two close decisions against B-hop that had enough power to make Taylor respect him. Winky lacks that power, I am not saying that Taylor is gong to whip his a$$. But Taylor has been in with the best and came out on top. Winky is along the same lines as Hopkins except that he is busy. I dont think that Taylor will be bothered by this at all. I have a lot of respect for Winky, but I think Taylor takes the UD.
i also think taylor gets the close decision win. i think the size will make a difference.
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You are making Winky out to be some god like boxer, and he is not. He is one of the best in the business, but far from unbeatable, Soliman proved that. I believe Taylor has the ability to beat Winky. He is going to be physically a bigger fighter than what Winky has fought before, which can affect the fight.
"those people who think that size will come into play are kidding their selves J.T wouldn't dare go inside with W.W." Who said that is how Taylor is going to win this fight? He wont have to go inside to win. He has the ability to fight him inside and on the outside.
I will repeat myself: Winky is one of the best in the business, but he is far from unbeatable. I believe that Taylor has a good shot at winning this fight.
[/quote]why does everybody look to the Soliman fight to judge winky...if your going to do that throw in the A** beating he gave Trinidad as well...Solimans style is next to impossible to figure out...and he comes from all angles...watched a vid with soliman sparring Kessler and he was workin Kessler...Soliman is no where near a bum...he is a world class fighter...
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Re: Get ready, Winky vs Taylor!!!! Who ya got?
Taylor didn't throw much against hopkins and landed low percentages, especially power shots. I've never seen Wright out jabbed and I don't think that's had all that much to to do with reach or handspeed. He's been in with bigger and faster guys before, His timing on the Jab is awesome and he's a lefty, which make's taylor's own strength (jab) that much harder to throw effectively.
Taylor will have to hit him with right hand leads on the outside,parrying Wright's jab with his left hand and then rough him up inside. If he can't impose his size he'll be outworked
