if taylor wins the youth would have top 3 p4p...
floyd
pac
j.T
right?
2wins against bhop and against winky would boost taylor big time...
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if taylor wins the youth would have top 3 p4p...
floyd
pac
j.T
right?
2wins against bhop and against winky would boost taylor big time...
Yea for sure. If he wins Hes deffinitely top 3 in my book.
If he won , i see it at
1) PBF
2) J.T
3) Pac
why is pac in the picture again?....Quote:
Originally Posted by babyboNe
I hate to say it... but I'd have to put JT over PBF. JT has been fighting great fighters... the best available and he has been close in all fights. If he beats Winky the records will show him as beating Bhop twice and Wright... two men who seem unbeatable. Right now at this moment... I am tempted to put Bhop at number 1 though. Many believe he beat the young lion in Taylor twice, and now moves up 2 weight classes to beat the LHW champ... remarkable.
What do people base there P4P Rankings on??
In the past i have said PBF is number one but after Hopkins and When Winky and Taylor fight whoever wins should push PBF down, the reason being i place my rankings on opponrents beat and when was the last time PBF beat the man?? i tell you when 2002, JLC!!
He has fought at 140 and 147 since and not fought the man yet of each division, so how the hell can he be number 1??? For sheer ability and what we have seen yes he is the best but we can only speculate until he backs it up with some wins against ranked fighters, if Taylor wins he has to be in the top 3 maybe number 1, because isnt Winky number 2 on the majority of people's P4P lists so surely if you beat the number two guy after previously beating Hopkins who was number 1/2 wasnt he?? You could argue he could be number 1.
Mine would look something like this.
1.Taylor
2.Hopkins
3.PBF
SkelI'd agree with what you said but as harsh as it sounds,you cannot have BHop there simply because to have aguy who lost 2 of his last 3(regardless how close)would be a travesty on people like Manny and not only that but it would allow people like me to put guys like Erik Morales in there too which would be wrong.Personally,I have Winky at number1,if JT wins,I'd have him close,with Pac and PBF there too.
I agree 100%!! pacman has a fairly recent loss to Morales & draw with Marquez (who recently lost & dropped out of P4P top 10)...so considering the closest thing Taylor has to a loss were his 2 disputed decision wins over Hopkins!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
I rate P4P purely by estimating who would beat who if any two fighters somehow weighed the same and kept their attributes. I see both Winky and Taylor as over-rated. Winky made a name for himself mostly with Trinidad, and imo in Taylor's only two big fights he didn't deserve a win. After Saturday, Hopkins deserves it again.
1/ Hopkins
2/ PBF
3/ Barrera
If Taylor wins convincinly then he would be #2 imo.
It all depends on how he wins. If its convincingly then he is top 3, if it is another disputed decision then put him where you like.
He will win and he will be up there where he deserves
Thats the key point.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
A convincing win has a much larger effect and I may place JT #1 if his win is that convincing.
I would agree with that......but I don't think he's going to win....Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
For god sakes if Taylor wins he should be ranked #1 P4P. He beat the #1 rated fighter in the world at the time twice and then he beat the #2 rated fighter in the world. What would Taylor have to do to get some respect?
it'll depend how j.t wins...if its another boring unclear decision no his not 1 or 2 maybe 3 though...pac has never won a decision since regonize as p4p...floyd dominates his oppenents...p4p means how dominating they are in divisions...and j.t wins via decision but not dominating like winkys decision wins...gotta rank it on how they win not how the judges gave it...Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
why pac is in the picture? who else would you rank higher then pac? barrera? hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
When he wins I think it would be hard to make an argument for him not to be top 3. Including this fight it would be the former undisputed #1 p4p and another top 3 p4p fighters he would have W's over.
You can look at it as how people dominate their opposition, but the name of the game is getting the W's. That is how history will remember this bout, who got the win with a blurb about how. In the end whether we like it or not it is all about getting the W's.