Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Taylor vs Wright.

Once again the weekend is looming & in just a few more days it'll be time for another installment of Wacko's Drunken Round By Round!!!

This weekend our coverage picks up in the Wack one's favorite spot...160lbs.

We start off with a bang as we settle in for the replay of last weekends Bernard Hopkins Antonio Tarver destruction match. My done good.

I was highly impressed & even more shocked as he blasted Tarver out over a lopsided unanimous decision. He said that it would come to pass...& it did.

I think that even people that predicted that win were shocked. Be that as it may...afterwards it's a fight that many of us have been salivating for & even more have been dreading...Jermain Taylor (25 wins with 17 ko's) vs Ronald Winky Wright (50 wins with 25 ko's & 3 losses) is coming at us live Saturday, June the 17th, 2006 courtesy of HBO's World Championship Boxing.


As usual I like to do a bit of prep work for the match up...so here goes.

First off...let the record state that I hate to pick a winner here as these are two of my favorites...but if I had to pick...I'd want Wright to win. It doesn't do a lot for boxing if he does...but Taylor could still shine bright in the future & IWO...Wright has put in his due time & I want to see him walk with a win...that being said...on with the bias factors of favor! Heh heh heh.

Win, lose, or draw...the Factors for & against Wright:

Factor #1: Amazing jab. Almost unstoppable. It's given every single person that climbed through the ropes against him problems. Only two or three men have been able to stand up to it in 50 some odd fights...which brings us to the next factor.

Factor #2: Experience. Wright has more experience & craft than Taylor & he'll most likely know how to use & abuse it...which is bad for Taylor. There haven't been any puzzles that Wright hasn't been able to solve...then again...Wright's #2 & #3 could have problems when it meets up to Taylor's #2 & his #3.

Factor #3: Defense. Best in the biz. Bar none. It's pretty hard to find anyone that can crack into Wright's blockade. To date no one has. Wright's early losses were in a different stance, he's a whole new ball game now. Taylor better have a plan B-Z for Wright.

Factor #4: Stamina. Wright can go all night as proven in the past & has done so with some very atheletic fighters.

Factor #5: Chin. Wright's chins been checked & it's never been broken. If Taylor can get through the D then he's got to factor in the C & there have been no problems to date. Wright can take a lickin & keep on stickin.

Factor #6: Power...or lack there of. Wright is going to have to rely on slickness & abilities seeing as how he's not a huge puncher at 160lbs. He better be able to go all night & he better be able to move. Either that...or he counts light bulbs ala Taylor.

#7: The World Stage. Wright has been on the world stage against some of the most skilled & powerful boxers of the 154lb division. He's bested Soliman & Trinidad convincgly & he also got the better of the slick & skilled Sugar Shane Mosley. I'd lean towards Wright for these reasons also...then again...this #7 & Taylor's #7 go hand in hand.

Win, lose, or draw...the Factors for & against Taylor:

Factor #1: Youth. This is Taylor's strong suit. He'll be quick off the start & could use that to his advantage against he elder Wright...but only carefully.

Factor #2: Amazing jab. Almost unstoppable...but if there is anyone that could stop it...he's in with him come Saturday night.

Factor #3: Power...& lots of it. With a bit of technique Taylor can rule this match. Scratch that...he'll need a lot of tecnique coupled with his power.

Factor #4: Experience. The Hopkins fight brings Taylor into question. Hopkins is Hopkins...granted he makes anyone look bad...but Wright has the same ability beneath his belt IWO. I have a feeling if this goes deep...Taylor might be made to look rather foolish against the slick defensive tactician in Wright.

Factor #5: Stamina. Again...the Hopkins fight. Taylor gassed out & almost drowned when Hopkins took him deep. He's lucky that he's not fighting the same style in Wright. He may not be faced with this issue seeing as how Wright shoots from behind the guard. This is a big if.

#6: New Trainer. Not sure about this one. Taylor switched up 6 weeks of training for Emmanuel Stewart ...this could be a positive or a negative...it's just to tuff to call right now. I personally don't think that it'll make a difference & it's a bit puzzling to hear Manny talk one month about how great Wright is & the next how poor Taylor looked & then to see him in the kid's corner. Odd.

#7: The World Stage. Taylor is now in the big time. Argueably Wright has the advantage here...but let's not forget that Taylor was on the big stage with Hopkins twice, Joppy once, & he gutted it out in the Olympics. Still...I'm leaning towards Wright here as I feel that Taylor pressed with any opposition seems to lose focus under the grand lights & on the big canvas. Maybe this is where trainer Emmanuel Stewart comes in handy?

Prediction: Wright by hard fought SD...or Taylor by HBO favoritism.

You might think that I don't like Taylor...I do. Those of you that have been here long enough or those that were here at the start that had to hear me campaigning the kid...well...you know that I dig on him...but I want him to do this the right way.

If he's gonna rule...I want him to cement his legacy...not have it handed over to him...so...as I said before...if he wins convincingly...I will be fine with that.

The kid could be good for boxing...no shat...but again...selfishness pushes me towards wanting a Wright win.

Two things are going to be the deciding factors of this fight...the jab & the defence. Both have fantastic jabs...one's got a beautiful defense...the question is...can it hold up to a legit 160lb jab?

We shall see.

So...as always...break out the chips & salsa...your poison of choice & pick your spot on the couch...Saturday June the 17th, 2006 is fight night & it's on like Donkey Kong!

Cheers...& koneecheewah bitches.

Yeah...the first reply..on the druken round by round.....winky by decesion....

Winky by decision but I hope otherwise, Taylor is much better for boxing.

Jermain Taylor in UD. Bigger, Stronger, and the jab is just as effective as Winky's. Winky is a big version of Pernell Whitaker, and I love his character but he does not have any weapons to keep Taylor off of him. 7 rounds to 5

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Winky by decision but I hope otherwise, Taylor is much better for boxing.

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Agreed...Taylor is better for the long haul...I hope Winky by decision regardless.

Been waiting all week for this one wacko. :coolclick: for the world #1 p4p DRbR! I cant wait for this fight its gonna be a good one. I see it going like B-hop/Taylor II except more up tempo and more punches (not sure how there could be less). I respect both fighters but I am more of a Taylor fan, so Taylor UD. He has the power to hurt Winky (which he will have to respect). Since Taylor has been through the two big fights with B-hop I dont see him being as nervous, so he will be able to keep a good punch output going throughout the fight. It will be close, but again Taylor by UD.

winky is going to discourage jermain when jermain is being hit with the jab and winky is blocking..jermain left hook isn't that great and his right hand is telegraphed so i think his flaws will be his down fall...

OH I live in memphis, yesterday downtown jermain taylor said he has nothing else to prove...I think this might be the wrong mindset...i mean he just got the belts and he already satisfied with his career...this might spell doom....

:coolclick: s to all aboard! ;D

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

winky is going to discourage jermain when jermain is being hit with the jab and winky is blocking..jermain left hook isn't that great and his right hand is telegraphed so i think his flaws will be his down fall...

OH I live in memphis, yesterday downtown jermain taylor said he has nothing else to prove...I think this might be the wrong mindset...i mean he just got the belts and he already satisfied with his career...this might spell doom....

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He had those flaws against B-hop as well. He came through those fights pretty well IMO. If anybody would have exposed those flaws as fatal it would have been B-hop. Winky doesnt have the power to make those flaws fatal. Dont get me wrong Winky will keep showing him those flaws, but Taylor will get through this fight fine.

One thing I dont understand is that people keep saying how Winky is going to school Taylor in this fight. But isnt that what everybody said about Taylor's first fight with B-hop. I would say that B-hop is more seasoned and tactical than Winky. Taylor won both fights against Hopkins, granted controversially, but still won. IMO we are looking at the same type of fight with the same result, Taylor by UD.

Im backin Winkt Wright

One of my favourite fighters and he will win by desicion !

Taylor's done very well on his way up.

He did decently enough against Hopkins...but Bernard broke him down from the 8th round on...maybe 9th at the latest.

Taylor folded under pressure.

If Winky is on point & or even...let's say 80%...Jermain's fwocked!

One thing is for sure. Lampley will be on Taylor's side all night. ranking up misses and shots on Winky's arms and gloves as 'beautiful combinations' and 'big shots' Remember, this is the guy that called a miss right hand by Taylor on Hopkins the 'best punch of the fight' ::** And when Pernell Whitaker was beating Delahoya all Lampley could talk about was Oscar switching southpaw.

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One thing is for sure. Lampley will be on Taylor's side all night. ranking up misses and shots on Winky's arms and gloves as 'beautiful combinations' and 'big shots' Remember, this is the guy that called a miss right hand by Taylor on Hopkins the 'best punch of the fight' ::** And when Pernell Whitaker was beating Delahoya all Lampley could talk about was Oscar switching southpaw.

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HBO's commentators are absolutely digusting in their biased opinions. I usually like to listen to the commentators during the fights, but those guys are just horrid.

i think wright will squeek out a win im saying 115-113 UD SD or maby even a MD win for wright

dont think it will be a blow out win for ither of knock out.

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One thing is for sure. Lampley will be on Taylor's side all night. ranking up misses and shots on Winky's arms and gloves as 'beautiful combinations' and 'big shots' Remember, this is the guy that called a miss right hand by Taylor on Hopkins the 'best punch of the fight' ::** And when Pernell Whitaker was beating Delahoya all Lampley could talk about was Oscar switching southpaw.

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HBO's commentators are absolutely digusting in their biased opinions. I usually like to listen to the commentators during the fights, but those guys are just horrid.

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jim lample almost breaks down in tears when oscar wins. he is a fruit basket

have number 1800 cc wack

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Originally Posted by TheChosenOne

i think wright will squeek out a win im saying 115-113 UD SD or maby even a MD win for wright

dont think it will be a blow out win for ither of knock out.

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cc, I see the fight the same scoring way. I feel that Taylor is going to take it. I would be shocked if either scored a KD especially if Winky scored one. :o I am hoping Taylor will win it convincingly, but it is going to be hard. If he wins unconvincingly then nobody is going to give him any type of credit for it. I think that Winky would get more credit for winning unconvincingly than Taylor.

I really want Taylor to win this by a UD.I give the man so much respect after he beat Hopkins.I was shocked when he did this because i looked up to hopkins as being one of the best boxers that i have seen through my eyes. I know age was a factor in the fight but i think after his victory against Hopkins i really want to see him win this one.I know winky is a great southpaw and is fantastic in the ring but i do want taylor to win this 1

Both of these guy's are classy fighters and good for the image of boxing. I would love to see a great 3 fight classic from these two. I don't know if Jermain is going to be in the division very much longer, he should move up (175 is looking thin).

I like both these guys,stylish,gentleman like and Winky is my P4P number 1 with the best D in the business! I think Wright is too experienced for JT,and I was just watching some Winky fights and I just don't see how JT is going to get into/break Winky's defence down. I understand what you people are saying about a JT win being best for boxing but I don't want Winky to lose...ever!! The guy paid his dues and if he loses,that is the end for him,he'll be waaaay too high a risk and I highly doubt any of the top guys would want to fight him but if JT loses,he is young and he will easily bounce back.
Oh and I predict a Winky UD and obviously,CC Wack,again,nice breakdown.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Yeah...the first reply..on the druken round by round.....winky by decesion....

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I would like to second this motion...Winky by UD.....of course if you're on Killersheeps wangdangfango betting extravaganza you would already know that....course I still bet the under.....

Winky's defence is impenetrable. You could fly 747's into that thing and it would do nothing. The only question in my mind is are the judges going to give the rounds to the man whos gonna be more active and the more whos more accurate. I hope its a Winky UD but Im not convinced, could be major controversy here.

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Originally Posted by TheChosenOne

have number 1800 cc wack

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:coolclick: right back atcha TCO!

1800? Gotdam... ;D

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i think wright will squeek out a win im saying 115-113 UD SD or maby even a MD win for wright

dont think it will be a blow out win for ither of knock out.

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cc, I see the fight the same scoring way. I feel that Taylor is going to take it. I would be shocked if either scored a KD especially if Winky scored one. :o I am hoping Taylor will win it convincingly, but it is going to be hard. If he wins unconvincingly then nobody is going to give him any type of credit for it. I think that Winky would get more credit for winning unconvincingly than Taylor.

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As I have said in the past...like Taylor...think he's great...but it's the right time for Wright IWO.

It's been a long time coming & I hope that he pulls it out...if he doesn't...I'll be disappointed...but I can deal with it. Taylor's good for the sport & he's a hell of a fighter.

I always said that I wanted Hopkins to retire & Taylor pick up the slack...but that's the thing about 160...all my favs are there & it's a win win situation for me of late when the superstars battle it out.

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i think wright will squeek out a win im saying 115-113 UD SD or maby even a MD win for wright

dont think it will be a blow out win for ither of knock out.

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cc, I see the fight the same scoring way. I feel that Taylor is going to take it. I would be shocked if either scored a KD especially if Winky scored one. :o I am hoping Taylor will win it convincingly, but it is going to be hard. If he wins unconvincingly then nobody is going to give him any type of credit for it. I think that Winky would get more credit for winning unconvincingly than Taylor.

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As I have said in the past...like Taylor...think he's great...but it's the right time for Wright IWO.

It's been a long time coming & I hope that he pulls it out...if he doesn't...I'll be disappointed...but I can deal with it. Taylor's good for the sport & he's a hell of a fighter.

I always said that I wanted Hopkins to retire & Taylor pick up the slack...but that's the thing about 160...all my favs are there & it's a win win situation for me of late when the superstars battle it out.

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Also...if it's a close fight...it'll go to Taylor...I mean Hopkins was the Undisputed man for 12 years & we all know that Taylor got that first decision courtesy of a little work & HBO.

Wright needs to dominate to win...then again...so will Taylor.

Here goes my fight (some call it an illusion): Winky expects another Felix Trinidad in the form of J. Taylor, who beat Hopkins twice, so he decides to raise up his gloves again from round 1. But lo and behold, Taylor starts to bang his body relentlessly hurting him in his belly and forcing him to open up his defense, and consequently his head, and starts jabbing. Seeing the breaking up of his opponent's defense Taylor starts his attack on Winky's head forcing him to cover up his head again, and seeing that, Taylor again start his vicious body attacks making Winky writhe in pain. This seesaw cycle continues with Winky showing no solution for this strategy which Taylor's trainers painstakingly prepared for the fight. So Winky tries to jab his way out but to no avail. By round 8, Winky gets enough punishment and in a biggest upset of the year, he goes down for the first time in his career. And the victorious Taylor smiles with the "I told you so" look in his face... RELAX GUYS! it's just my imagination - or more likely an illusion. Everybody seems to be saying more or less the same thing so I decided to expand my imagination and come up with something different and spectacular. Not bad heh.

Jermain by KO..round 7

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Here goes my fight (some call it an illusion): Winky expects another Felix Trinidad in the form of J. Taylor, who beat Hopkins twice, so he decides to raise up his gloves again from round 1. But lo and behold, Taylor starts to bang his body relentlessly hurting him in his belly and forcing him to open up his defense, and consequently his head, and starts jabbing. Seeing the breaking up of his opponent's defense Taylor starts his attack on Winky's head forcing him to cover up his head again, and seeing that, Taylor again start his vicious body attacks making Winky writhe in pain. This seesaw cycle continues with Winky showing no solution for this strategy which Taylor's trainers painstakingly prepared for the fight. So Winky tries to jab his way out but to no avail. By round 8, Winky gets enough punishment and in a biggest upset of the year, he goes down for the first time in his career. And the victorious Taylor smiles with the "I told you so" look in his face... RELAX GUYS! it's just my imagination - or more likely an illusion. Everybody seems to be saying more or less the same thing so I decided to expand my imagination and come up with something different and spectacular. Not bad heh.

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You do know that Vasquez knocked winky down 4 times..but only two were called...so he's already been floored...and taylor is going to have more of the problem with the southpaw jab and taylor telegraphs his right hand and i don't think taylor left hook is fast enough to catch winky...unless he throws it off a jab or manny put some extra funk on it other than that taylors one-two...won't be enough and winky catches almost all body shots with his elbows...i think taylor will possibly hurt his hand in this fight....

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Here goes my fight (some call it an illusion): Winky expects another Felix Trinidad in the form of J. Taylor, who beat Hopkins twice, so he decides to raise up his gloves again from round 1. But lo and behold, Taylor starts to bang his body relentlessly hurting him in his belly and forcing him to open up his defense, and consequently his head, and starts jabbing. Seeing the breaking up of his opponent's defense Taylor starts his attack on Winky's head forcing him to cover up his head again, and seeing that, Taylor again start his vicious body attacks making Winky writhe in pain. This seesaw cycle continues with Winky showing no solution for this strategy which Taylor's trainers painstakingly prepared for the fight. So Winky tries to jab his way out but to no avail. By round 8, Winky gets enough punishment and in a biggest upset of the year, he goes down for the first time in his career. And the victorious Taylor smiles with the "I told you so" look in his face... RELAX GUYS! it's just my imagination - or more likely an illusion. Everybody seems to be saying more or less the same thing so I decided to expand my imagination and come up with something different and spectacular. Not bad heh.

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You do know that Vasquez knocked winky down 4 times..but only two were called...so he's already been floored...and taylor is going to have more of the problem with the southpaw jab and taylor telegraphs his right hand and i don't think taylor left hook is fast enough to catch winky...unless he throws it off a jab or manny put some extra funk on it other than that taylors one-two...won't be enough and winky catches almost all body shots with his elbows...i think taylor will possibly hurt his hand in this fight....

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Nice analysis and thanks for the info, pal. I've heard Winky being never knocked out so I mistook it to mean that he's never been knocked down. Winky and a two-time Hopkins buster should come up with a really exciting fight, it's got to be.

You know I've been waiting for this one. AND NEEEWWW MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION....well we'll save that. Can't type much now but Winky being my favorite fighter in a split with his friend Jeff Lacy, well I can't wait. I have very little doubt that it's going to be a showcase of a jab. I think Winky walks back Jermain the entire fight popping that right jab out and sticking behind the jab and a superb defense. Jermain doesn't fight very well when he is being walked down and I think closing the gap and timing Winky coming in all while trying to penetrate that cagey defense is going to be a task to tall for him.

I think people are expecting WAY to much of Winky, at middleweight.... What natural middleweight has he ever fought? THe closest thing was Sam Soliman, and that's just a fact... Sure he MAY have had a sub par night or whatever, or maybe he isn't as good at 160, is that not possible ???... it is pretty clear that he isn't going to be able to crush a grape at middleweight... I am personally of the opinion that Bhop would beat down Winky as of today, or would have had he fought him instead of Taylor. I think Hopkins defense is just as good as Winky's, probably better because he actually moves ALOT more, and that's why he was able to make Taylor miss alot of good punches...Wright doesn't have the same kind of footwork, ring smarts, or ability to use the ring that Hopkins did. Winky is great at blocking shots, but really, will TAylor have as much trouble actually landing them as he did against Bhop? I really doubt it. His jab is probably just as good as Winky's, but again he's bigger and has a power and probably reach advantage... What fighter has Winky ever faced that could match his jab?? I mean this is a huge test for both guys, don't just downplay Taylor's chances really think about the fight, I mean look what Bhop just did to Tarver, Taylor isn't doing badly at all... Every advantage you could give Winky over Taylor should have also been there for Hopkins in both fights... Now I know Taylor was hardly a champ after either Bhop fight but I have already stated why I think Bhop is a better fighter and certainly a better middleweight than Winky, and there was probably a reason he wasn't able to dominate the Taylor fight himself, because Taylor is a very powerful athletic and large middleweight. I think Emanuel Steward will have him fully prepared with a good game plan, and I think he will stop Winky in this fight.

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You know I've been waiting for this one. AND NEEEWWW MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION....well we'll save that. Can't type much now but Winky being my favorite fighter in a split with his friend Jeff Lacy, well I can't wait. I have very little doubt that it's going to be a showcase of a jab. I think Winky walks back Jermain the entire fight popping that right jab out and sticking behind the jab and a superb defense. Jermain doesn't fight very well when he is being walked down and I think closing the gap and timing Winky coming in all while trying to penetrate that cagey defense is going to be a task to tall for him.

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good point, it could be that the outcome is determend by what distance (between them) the fight is fought at.

as I said

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One thing is for sure. Lampley will be on Taylor's side all night. ranking up misses and shots on Winky's arms and gloves as 'beautiful combinations' and 'big shots' Remember, this is the guy that called a miss right hand by Taylor on Hopkins the 'best punch of the fight' ::** And when Pernell Whitaker was beating Delahoya all Lampley could talk about was Oscar switching southpaw.

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I think people are expecting WAY to much of Winky, at middleweight.... What natural middleweight has he ever fought? THe closest thing was Sam Soliman, and that's just a fact... Sure he MAY have had a sub par night or whatever, or maybe he isn't as good at 160, is that not possible ???...

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Maybe people are expecting too much of Winky...but atleast he's up to the challenge of 160...whether or not he can bear it...we shall see.

Problem is...alot of people underate Soliman...not that I overrate him...but the guy is an enigma as far as a boxer goes...also...people need to watch the fight & not listen to what the morons in the back ground are saying. I'm thrilled that he threw 1200+ punches...but I'm even more thrilled that he hardly landed any of them.

Wright did just fine against Soliman. Watch the fight again.

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it is pretty clear that he isn't going to be able to crush a grape at middleweight... I am personally of the opinion that Bhop would beat down Winky as of today, or would have had he fought him instead of Taylor. I think Hopkins defense is just as good as Winky's, probably better because he actually moves ALOT more, and that's why he was able to make Taylor miss alot of good punches...Wright doesn't have the same kind of footwork, ring smarts, or ability to use the ring that Hopkins did.

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When has crushing middleweight fighters had to mean anything. If you pay attention to the middleweight division...theyr'e all boxers...not a gaggle of punchers. The rely on their technique rather than KO power. Look at the men that Taylor has KO'd...very few are legit middles...they were on their way up...just like Wright is on him way up...the difference is that Taylor has never faced anyone like Winky Wright.

Wright has the better defense. It's been proven & admitted to by Hopkins. Hops is slicker...that's the difference IWO.

Wright might not have the same footwork but you can damn sure believe that he's got the ring smarts. He's been at it as long or longer than Bernard & he's fought just about every single style out there that there is.

I think that you might be surprised how up to the challenge Wright will be.

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Winky is great at blocking shots, but really, will TAylor have as much trouble actually landing them as he did against Bhop? I really doubt it. His jab is probably just as good as Winky's, but again he's bigger and has a power and probably reach advantage...

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I think that he'll have just as many if not more issues landing against Wright than Hopkins. I always said that if there was anyone that could legit defeat Hopkins it would be Wright.

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What fighter has Winky ever faced that could match his jab?? I mean this is a huge test for both guys, don't just downplay Taylor's chances really think about the fight, I mean look what Bhop just did to Tarver, Taylor isn't doing badly at all... Every advantage you could give Winky over Taylor should have also been there for Hopkins in both fights...

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None...but for that matter neither has Taylor...the fight will definently boil down to stamina, jab, & defense. I think that Wright's gonna negate Taylor's power with his defense.

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Now I know Taylor was hardly a champ after either Bhop fight but I have already stated why I think Bhop is a better fighter and certainly a better middleweight than Winky, and there was probably a reason he wasn't able to dominate the Taylor fight himself, because Taylor is a very powerful athletic and large middleweight. I think Emanuel Steward will have him fully prepared with a good game plan, and I think he will stop Winky in this fight.

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Taylor has championship qualities...but he is being rushed a bit IWO. He looked really really bad against Hopkins...stellar against all the rest...then again...Hopkins is the best so Taylor could be on to something.

Hopkins is ofcourse a better middleweight of the three...but then again...Taylor's been at it longer than Wright...so if Wright comes out on top...what does that say for Wright? Hell if he even performs decently...I'll give him just as much credit as I will if Taylor performs decently...but I don't want no half assed shat like the last Taylor go round.

:coolclick: s around the board once again...nice discussion & good points by all. :alcoholic:

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I think people are expecting WAY to much of Winky, at middleweight.... What natural middleweight has he ever fought? THe closest thing was Sam Soliman, and that's just a fact... Sure he MAY have had a sub par night or whatever, or maybe he isn't as good at 160, is that not possible ???... it is pretty clear that he isn't going to be able to crush a grape at middleweight... I am personally of the opinion that Bhop would beat down Winky as of today, or would have had he fought him instead of Taylor. I think Hopkins defense is just as good as Winky's, probably better because he actually moves ALOT more, and that's why he was able to make Taylor miss alot of good punches...Wright doesn't have the same kind of footwork, ring smarts, or ability to use the ring that Hopkins did. Winky is great at blocking shots, but really, will TAylor have as much trouble actually landing them as he did against Bhop? I really doubt it. His jab is probably just as good as Winky's, but again he's bigger and has a power and probably reach advantage... What fighter has Winky ever faced that could match his jab?? I mean this is a huge test for both guys, don't just downplay Taylor's chances really think about the fight, I mean look what Bhop just did to Tarver, Taylor isn't doing badly at all... Every advantage you could give Winky over Taylor should have also been there for Hopkins in both fights... Now I know Taylor was hardly a champ after either Bhop fight but I have already stated why I think Bhop is a better fighter and certainly a better middleweight than Winky, and there was probably a reason he wasn't able to dominate the Taylor fight himself, because Taylor is a very powerful athletic and large middleweight. I think Emanuel Steward will have him fully prepared with a good game plan, and I think he will stop Winky in this fight.

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I couldn't of said that any better myself ;D :goodpost:

Hey Wackoff i don't agree that Winky's defensive will negate Taylors power... on the contrary I think his defense will work against him! :lickish: evading a punch negates it not catching it on the arms ;)

i have a strange feeling that no matter the outcome of this fight we'll have a lot of contraversy and plenty of debate and drama on SADDO for many weeks to come! ;D

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Hey Wackoff i don't agree that Winky's defensive will negate Taylors power... on the contrary I think his defense will work against him! :lickish: evading a punch negates it not catching it on the arms ;)

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If your arms can handle it then it is fine. Wright spars with Lacy I'm sure his arms have felt power worse then Taylors.

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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P

i have a strange feeling that no matter the outcome of this fight we'll have a lot of contraversy and plenty of debate and drama on SADDO for many weeks to come! ;D

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I will agree with that 100%!

:coolclick: to TheBESTP4P