when you get home do you go back to bed or stay up?.
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when you get home do you go back to bed or stay up?.
I stay up and start on my crunches.
I don't run first thing, I can't see the point in doing any type of intense exercise when your metabolism isn't up to it yet.
All you can really do is haul yourself on a jog... no sprints or pace at all... the qualities just not there and that's what brings about real fitness developments.
Wasted energy and rest for crap training. Amatuers don't need that type of running, the rounds and bouts aren't long enough to test the Aerobic energy system that much... focus more on Anaerobic training and some Aerobic training for good measure...
Sprints, hills, stairs...
what do you think about running? not jogging but running. like half miles quarter miles?
My mate who boxes runs every morning, he runs at the golf course. When he comes to hills he has to sprint and when he reaches the top he has to run backwards so hes on his toes. Since hes been doin that hes been winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Doesn't mean that its an idea form of running, and I doubt he's up to doing quality shuttles in the morning, running once up a hill won't do nothing, the same has tapping away at a punch bag then blasting away with 1 combination around won't do you much good... ;)
Running in the morning helps you get your day started. It helps get the blood flowing so your blood flowing so you will have quality in your other workouts.
your metabolism doesn't need you to go for a run to start itself up properly Vodka... ;)
you train to stress your body so it adapts and grows, you don't train to fatigue your body and your certaintly don't train to wake your self up in the mornings... ;)
hmm this topic is interesting,
ive been jogging in the morning as well as trainin at night for the past 3 weeks and i can feel a massive differance in my fitness,
in the morning i do feel like i cba, but once im out there it wakes me up and i feel good knowing im doing it ;D
I feel that your body can just get used to things such as running in the morning.
When i started running in the morning my legs felt like concrete blocks however after a few runs you can pretty much get used to anything! I often do HIIT and other interval/sprint work in the mornings before food. This means that i can also train in the night as well.
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Originally Posted by Boeing787
this shows its ok for you then, if you can feel your legs like concreate blocks its obvious it is better for you becasue you are running under a strain which then makes it better for you when you run at night because you can then feel the benifits,
i think this anyway because my pace is alot quicker at night now.
No he runs at the golf course which has a lot more then 1 hill. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I just can't see the point in doing HIIT with out the food to fuel it properly. ;) fat burning, Aerbic work maybe... but thats not best suited to the Amatuers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boeing787
Snakey, just because he runs a hilly root, doesn't mean that he is doing any sort of intense sprint work on them... ;)
HIIT does burn fat, as it increases the metabolism for hours after the exercise, wheras aerobic style work will only burn fat wgile you carry out the exercise ;)
I guess it's just what ever works for you
Not discrediting you Adam but just thought. Bernard Hopkins gets up at 5 in the morning every day and starts with a run. Are you telling us Bernard has got this wrong or just that this is only applicable to pros or top level pros?
The total length of an Amatuer bout is 7 minutes, The total length of a 12 round pro bout is 47 minutes... different durations and styles = different energy systems = different training ;)
Morning empty stomach training is probably not that useful except for fat burning
i do crunches, then have quick shower then bed. ;)
right i dont box, i never plan to box, but i've a degree in sports science so heres my take
wen you wake up in the morning after 8 hours sleep your body doesnt have any energy source, food is energy and that is used up in the night.
if you go running your body needs energy so it starts getting its energy from the fat deposits thus helping weight loss.
now if u want to lose weight, run in the morn on an empty stomach, if you want to gain fitness run whenever you want, but make sure you have eaten previous like few hours etc
adams right that it probably does not have any effect on the amatures unless you are needing to make weight
cc ;)
Thats my point exactly... your body has virtually no carbs to use for the Anaerobic energy system, and it can't use fat for Anaerobic exercise.
So basically you're limiting your road work to a subpar Aerobic Jog which is relying souly on fat and won't help you in the Amatuers all that much...
Fat burning, Aerobic for a pro... but thats it... ;)
Fat is burned in the flames of carbs. Even at rest our main fuel source in the body is fat. The phosphocreatine and aerobic (glucose and fat) systems work at the same time, they don't switch on and off depending on what you are doing.
In the morning there's plenty of carbs in the body in the form of muscle and liver glycogen. The only difference is, initially there isn't lots of glucose in the bloodstream. With blood glucose being low, adrenaline is secreted, therefore, increasing the metabolic rate. This has the effect of kick starting the metabolism to work at a high rate all day. I'm in agreement with VODKA. This can only be a good thing because when you come to doing the high intensity stuff later your body will be warmer and if your nutrition is ok you should feel more alert.
I have never done a 7 minute amatuer bout can someone explain that to me. Longest I have done was 8 min and that was 4 2 min rounds. and 3 2 mins rounds are 6 mins.
I think the type of training you should do depends on your body type. Small skinny guys should get themselves stronger, big guys should go for muscle endurance.
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Originally Posted by Vessel
during the breaks your body is still working, supplying Oxygen and glucose to the muscles and removing lactic acid... you count the breaks? did I say 7? I meant 8 ;)
round one 2 minutes
Break 1 Minute
Round two 2 minutes
Break 1 Minute
Round Three 2 minutes
Total = 8 minutes.
I think running in the morning is very good for 1 thing above all others dicipline.
Can't argue with that Scrap... definetly think getting up as early as I did when I was working the sites every morning no matter what I'd done the night before toughned me up quiet a lot mentally.
Emma - When your other half caught me in your bedroom that morning, and I went running, I must admit that I went back to bed when I got home.
;)
:D
how's that pic coming along????.....BIG H is getting antsy.....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by emma
not long now got my film for the camera just gotta fill up the film. ;D
boobies
i run 4 to 5 times a week early in the morning. i wake up at 6 am, and go running at about 6:15, run til about 7:30. but i've never been able to fall asleep after morning runs. it just boosts my metabolism, and especially the cold shower after running. no chance of keeping my eyes closed.
I remember George Francis, bless him. He use to get his fighters running round Parliment hill feilds at Highgate in the mornings. After the run He would make them to a man, jump in the Lake. Didnt matter if it was the middle of winter, and they had to break the ice. George didnt train bottle jobs, there was method in the madness No George was a clever old fox
When I Get Back From Running I Usually Get Ready For the Day Or Go Do Some Bag Work
I am really regular, so the first thing I do when I wake up is have a shit.
Then I get out of bed to go running.
:D 24 hour karma... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by X
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So is everyone here in agreement that running before breakfast is good for fat loss?
Fat loss: yes
Aerobic conditioning: Yes
Anaerobic conditioning: No
Fair enough you have some Glycogen left in your system... but you won't have eaten for at least 8 hours... so a lot of it will have depleted... if it weren't true... eating carbs a few hours before training wouldn't be any better than eating carbs 8 hours before training ;)
Its not impossible to train Anaerobicly early in the morning, the quality won't be as good though.
so the best time to train for a fatburn is to not have alot of energy in your system at all? how many calouries do you think you burn from an average gym session say 1 hour-1 hour 30 mins? how much energy you rekon shud be taken on board before a workout?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
The truth is, there's not a definitive answer. Trial and error is probably the way to go - see what's right for you.
Here's a link to a well written article.
http://www.afpafitness.com/articles/CARBEAT.HTM
Personally I've come across athletes who get rebound hypoglycemia (blood sugar drops after eating carbs), so they don't tend to over fuel beforehand.
Replenishing carbohydrates after high intensity work is more important imho, and being in bed all night doesn't count as work unless you're going for gold at the bedroom olympics. :)